is eastern fh same as bh?

I don't really know what you're asking -- they're not the same grip. The Eastern BH grip is two bevels over from the Eastern FH grip. The Western FH grip is the exact same thing as the Eastern BH grip, that's the adcantage of using Western, you don't have to change your grip for backhands.
 

pow

Hall of Fame
I don't really know what you're asking -- they're not the same grip. The Eastern BH grip is two bevels over from the Eastern FH grip. The Western FH grip is the exact same thing as the Eastern BH grip, that's the adcantage of using Western, you don't have to change your grip for backhands.

ok you answered it.

Is there a backhand grip name for the same grip as the eastern forehand?
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
The Western FH grip is the exact same thing as the Eastern BH grip,...
That's not true. I use an Eastern BH grip and there's no way I could hit my backhand with a Western FH grip.

With my Eastern BH grip, my thumb is behind the wide bevel of the grip, flush with the face of the racquet. With a Western FH grip, my thumb would be on top of the grip, the bevel on the side of the racquet. (I use a Eastern to Semi-Western FH grip BTW).
 

arnz

Professional
I'm with Euro on this one. The Western grip is the same as the eastern backhand. On the Western grip. your index knuckle is way under the grip, and if yiou turn it over, its on top instead producing an Eastern Backhand, but you have to give allowances for mild eastern backhand vs. extreme. Anwyay I dont want to confuse the OP. The eastern forehand and the eastern backhand are totally different grips

OK here is how I would have you picture it. On the tennis court face the net, hold the racquet with a flat face on the forehand side facing the net as if it was about to contact an incoming ball, use your non dominant hand, ie if you are a righty use you left to hold it up. Now with your dominant hand (right for most people) put your palm face up and hold it underneath the racquet, now grip the racquet making sure your index knuckle is on the bottom. You have just produced a western grip.

Now windshield wiper the forehand to the other side making sure the same side faces the net, and then turn your body over as if hitting a backhand. you are now in an eastern backhand grip
 
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winks

Rookie
I dont know if anyone can hit with that grip on their backhand side
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Alberto Berasetegui (sp?) who won the FO in 94, hit with the same grip on both sides. There are probably many more, especially clay court specialists. McEnroe come to mind as someone else, but in most opinions he had a continental FH not eastern, and was truly unique is this respect.

I think the problem is that there is a big variation in what people call an "Eastern" Backhand (and to a lesser extent, what people call a "Western" forehand) grip. Basically, as your backhand and forehand grips become more "extreme" (for the forehand, with the palm moving farther under the racquet) they will end up gripping the racquet the same, and you don't have to change grips at all.

I've never heard of anyone who had an eastern FH and used the same grip (as in didn't need to change) on the BH
side though.
 
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arnz

Professional
He was asking about an eastern forehand grip being used as a backhand. That looks to me like a western grip which I already explained when turned over becomes an eastern bakchand grip
 

winks

Rookie
He was asking about an eastern forehand grip being used as a backhand. That looks to me like a western grip which I already explained when turned over becomes an eastern bakchand grip

Yeah, immediatley after I hit submit, I realized I was a bit off track in my reply, so I editted it accordingly.

I think the answer is NO, Eastern FH does NOT equal Eastern BH. What I was trying to add though was a Western FH can be used as a BH grip. What some call this backhand (Western, Semi-Western, or even Eastern) seems to vary.
 

arnz

Professional
Naming grips is actually very confusing to beginners. I'd rather name grips based on where your thumb, palm and knuckles are on the bevels, which should also be numbered.

Although I've never tried it, the power V grip seems to be a good idea as far as aiding those confused with their grips
 

shojun25

Professional
no, hard to explain but i'll try to:

eastern grip for forhand to get eastern grip forehand = western grip for backhand to get eastern grip forehand
 
That's not true. I use an Eastern BH grip and there's no way I could hit my backhand with a Western FH grip.

With my Eastern BH grip, my thumb is behind the wide bevel of the grip, flush with the face of the racquet. With a Western FH grip, my thumb would be on top of the grip, the bevel on the side of the racquet. (I use a Eastern to Semi-Western FH grip BTW).

Well I guess everyone has slight variations in how they hold the grip, like you said with your thumb. But it's a pretty common fact that the Western grip is the same as the Eastern BH grip.
 

paulfreda

Hall of Fame
And the SWFH grip is the same as the SWBH grip.
This is how I play most of the time.
No change in hand position for BH and FH.
Index knuckle one bevel past/below the side panel facing the back fence on the FH side.
 
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