Is Fed the best when getting outplayed?

TeamOB

Professional
Roger Federer has an uncanny ability to keep the match close (or even win) when he is actually getting significantly outplayed. Today's final was an example. He had no business winning the first set. Nole was going deep in all his service games while Roger could barely string 2 return points together. Yet he somehow managed to steal the set in a tiebreak despite winning less total points. Same with the 4th set. Nole was all over him and got to SP, but Roger dug deep, pulled out a few ridiculously clutch serves and again stole the set. Same with the AO 2013 SF against Murray. Fed was getting outplayed in every area of the game. He had absolutely no business taking that match to 5. Yet some clutch shotmaking and tiebreak play let him steal 2 sets. Another example is the 2011 USO semi against Nole. There was no way he should have won the first set of that match, yet he did. He has a ridiculous ability to hang in there with some clutch serves and then unleashing some ridiculous shotmaking to steal a set he should have lost. Is he the best on tour at this? Or does someone else do it better?
 

90's Clay

Banned
Fed is the best as a front runner with a 2 set lead. Hes the greatest ever at beating those hes supposed to beat, but hands down the worst all time great ever when it comes to pressure situations against main rivals. IF they concede the first two sets then yes, Fed is at his best there. But guys like Novak and Nadal aren't going to gift you the first 2 sets
 

rambl

New User
Fed is the best as a front runner with a 2 set lead. Hes the greatest ever at beating those hes supposed to beat, but hands down the worst all time great ever when it comes to pressure situations against main rivals.
Pretty stupid thing to say. Federer struggles against Nadal and Djokovic because they're 5 years younger than him, not because he can't play against good players under pressure.

To the main topicL Federer does seem to win an unusual number of sets where he takes less than half the points. It may be because of his aggressive style of play -- he can more easily "choose" which points to win, because his game is higher variance than Nadal/Djokovic/Murray's, and therefore responds more to increases or decreases in concentration and effort.
 

dpli2010

Semi-Pro
Roger Federer has an uncanny ability to keep the match close (or even win) when he is actually getting significantly outplayed. Today's final was an example. He had no business winning the first set. Nole was going deep in all his service games while Roger could barely string 2 return points together. Yet he somehow managed to steal the set in a tiebreak despite winning less total points. Same with the 4th set. Nole was all over him and got to SP, but Roger dug deep, pulled out a few ridiculously clutch serves and again stole the set. Same with the AO 2013 SF against Murray. Fed was getting outplayed in every area of the game. He had absolutely no business taking that match to 5. Yet some clutch shotmaking and tiebreak play let him steal 2 sets. Another example is the 2011 USO semi against Nole. There was no way he should have won the first set of that match, yet he did. He has a ridiculous ability to hang in there with some clutch serves and then unleashing some ridiculous shotmaking to steal a set he should have lost. Is he the best on tour at this? Or does someone else do it better?
Glad you posted this. Yes Roger does this, he plays his best tennis when outplayed, except for his down time last year, and yes he is capable of doing so because of some unique quality/gift in him. Nole perhaps has this quality/gift as well but it is not as strong in my eyes, yet I don't see it in the other two of the Big Four...

I am glad to see this came back to Roger's game earlier this year, and this Sunday was just another demonstration. My only concern is his physicality is not as well coupled with this quality/gift as it used to be to help him gain another major...
 

TeamOB

Professional
Another example of this is the 2013 WTF RR match against Del Potro. He was battling back that entire match. Really he probably should not have won it. He found some inspired tennis at the very end of the last 2 sets and barely managed to squeak through.
 
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