Is Federer a better clay-courter than Nadal?

1477aces

Hall of Fame
Robin Soderling, who's peak unfortunately only lasted for the 2009 French Open , was able to peat peak nadal but lost to old man federer. Based on this, I think we can conclude that federer is better than nadal on clay.
 

happyloman

Semi-Pro
Robin Soderling, who's peak unfortunately only lasted for the 2009 French Open , was able to peat peak nadal but lost to old man federer. Based on this, I think we can conclude that federer is better than nadal on clay.
why do you base peak soderling at 2009? why not 2010 ?
 

topher

Professional
:lol::lol: The mods need to disable threads that start with an "Is" and ends with a question mark for a week or so.
 

AudreyBlue

New User
Federer beat soderling during his peak in the 2009 french open. Nadal failed to do so. This was peak peak sodering. unfortunately, his peak form only lasted for the french open 2009.
How about Federer never beat Nadal at Roland Garros. He lost to Nadal all four times and 2008 was not pretty.
 

happyloman

Semi-Pro
Federer beat soderling during his peak in the 2009 french open. Nadal failed to do so. This was peak peak sodering. unfortunately, his peak form only lasted for the french open 2009.
you haven't given any arguments why peak is 2009 and not 2010. (a 2010 peak would render this thread obsolete, of course)

as it stands, this thread's hypothesis is interesting and would be valid if 2009 was the only year tennis was played anywhere. but there were years before and after 2009. can't ignore those annoying facts.
 

1477aces

Hall of Fame
you haven't given any arguments why peak is 2009 and not 2010. (a 2010 peak would render this thread obsolete, of course)

as it stands, this thread's hypothesis is interesting and would be valid if 2009 was the only year tennis was played anywhere. but there were years before and after 2009. can't ignore those annoying facts.
But soderling had personal issues and injuries afterwards. And his magical form in 2009 would never be seen a gain.
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
In that French Open 2008 final I've NEVER seen Federer dismantled as I did then, Nadal completely obliterated Federer, nothing seemed to work as back then Federer always had this aura that he was the man and if you're going to beat him you're going through hell trying to but Nadal was in another dimension.

BUT Federer won the next year, Nadal took a sabbatical (injury,personal) during Wimbly..Roger won Wimbledon, should have won the US Open, then won the Aussie Open...he could have held all 4 slams at the same time...:shock:

Nadal then could have done the same if he won the 2011 aussie open. :shock:
 

Chico

Banned
In that French Open 2008 final I've NEVER seen Federer dismantled as I did then, Nadal completely obliterated Federer, nothing seemed to work as back then Federer always had this aura that he was the man and if you're going to beat him you're going through hell trying to but Nadal was in another dimension.

BUT Federer won the next year, Nadal took a sabbatical (injury,personal) during Wimbly..Roger won Wimbledon, should have won the US Open, then won the Aussie Open...he could have held all 4 slams at the same time...:shock:

Nadal then could have done the same if he won the 2011 aussie open. :shock
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There was no chance for Nadal to win AO 2011.

Also Djokovic could have done the same (and more - i.e. CYGS) if he won FO 2011.
 

adil1972

Hall of Fame
only two players have defeated both federer and nadal in the same grand slam, one is delpotro 2009 us open and other is djokovic 2011 us open
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
There was no chance for Nadal to win AO 2011.

Also Djokovic could have done the same (and more - i.e. CYGS) if he won FO 2011.
That's true, hypothetically speaking then...but in reality mark 2 Djokovic would have dismantled Nadal at that Australian Open. No disrespect to Nadal but Djokovic was scary good then.
 
F

FedererWinsWimbledon2014

Guest
Great thread, should be a contender for thread of the year.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
because soderling declined so much after 2009. He was never at quite the same level. Anyone who can look past the numbers can understand.
He peaked in 2011 just before getting ill. Much better then than in 2009.
 

bullfan

Legend
If Fed could get 12 votes that he will win a tournament he is not even playing I am sure he would win this poll by a landslide:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=478687
It's hard for Fed to lose any poll around here. That said, do you believe Fed is a better clay courter than Nadal? Or are you going to only go by a non clay court poll to rank them?

It's time to man up. Or are obfuscating, by, putting a hc poll instead of giving Nadal any credit on clay?
 
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bullfan

Legend
There was no chance for Nadal to win AO 2011.

Also Djokovic could have done the same (and more - i.e. CYGS) if he won FO 2011.
This thread was about clay. Why post about HC? I thought you were opposed to folks going off thread, or is it when you don't answer the question? Who's better on clay, Fed or Nadal.
 

Chico

Banned
This thread was about clay. Why post about HC? I thought you were opposed to folks going off thread, or is it when you don't answer the question? Who's better on clay, Fed or Nadal.
I was just answering to previous poster, Mr. Thread Police. :roll:
 

bullfan

Legend
I was just answering to previous poster, Mr. Thread Police. :roll:
Isn't, that ironic, you who act like the board police, by not asking why Novak isn't a part of a thread! And tries to hijack all non Novak threads by bringing him into the conversation!

Are you capable of saying whether you think Fed or Nadal is a better clay courter between the 2? If not, why have you made any post in this thread other than to troll?

Fed or Nadal, that's the thread, period.

Btw, it Ms. Troll police.
 

bullfan

Legend
So, who do you think is better on clay, Fed or Nadal ?

That's ok if you want to dodge the question. We know how you roll....:twisted:
I think it's called trolled!

But, be that as it may, There seems to be an obsession by the poster to troll Nadal posts, and try to distract without actually replying to the OP thread!
 
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