Is Federer majoring in minors!?

Is he?


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As many have clearly stated, he's 37 years old. It's a wonder he's 'majoring' in anything at all.

The whole 'majoring in minors' phrase was a tongue-in-cheek reference to Djokovic staying at the top for most of 2012-14 by only winning 1 slam a year but being more dominant outside the slams, in the so-called 'minor' events. Of course, he went on to absolutely dominate in 2015-16, including the NCYGS, as well as his 2011 and now 2018/19 runs, so he clearly can't be accused of 'majoring in minors' anymore.

If Federer wins Indian Wells, it'll be a great achievement, given his age and his form of late. I would hope we can all agree on that
 
There isn't any hidden agenda. It's an honest observation. There's a huge discrepancy between Fed's results at the Slams and at the smaller tournaments. Don't you think!?

Federer percentage of titles that are non major; 80%

Nadal percentage of titles that are non major; 79%

Djokovic percentage of titles that are non major; 79%

Sampras percentage of titles that are non major; 78%

Wow, you are really onto something here. I stand corrected!
 
Well it's a legit question now isn't it. Since his annual Clay sabbatical last year, he is basically an owner of the Micky Mouse part of Tour winning Sttutgart Open, Basel, Dubai, Laver Cup and Hopman Cup. And if not for a revived Djokovic and beasting Zverev he would have won Cincinnati, Paris and WTF also.
While in the same period of time at the biggest scene in Slams he was defeated by Anderson, Milkman and Tsistipas people who he is beating with eyes closed in the MM Tournaments.
Now with Rafa being injured and another IW title on the horizon, this pops up as legit question, tbh..
 
Too bad Federer faked an injury against Raonic at Wimbledon 2016, Zverev at Monreal 2017 and Delpo at US Open 2017 to have an excuse for his losses. Hope he showed some sportmanship.
Yeah, this is 3. Compare it to Nadal's 4634738.
 
He won one of the last four slams he participated in, that is hardly under performing constantly. You would have had a case if he had been about five to six slams straight he failed to get to the semis or higher, but he started this year as the AO champion. You can say that his recent results of the past few months in slams haven't been as good as we saw in the past, but constantly is strange word to use to the guy who was the defending AO champion.
Federer is irrelevant at Majors now. If Nadal is fit today he will expose Federer but then federer fans will use his age as an excuse as per usual
 
Federer percentage of titles that are non major; 80%

Nadal percentage of titles that are non major; 79%

Djokovic percentage of titles that are non major; 79%

Sampras percentage of titles that are non major; 78%

Wow, you are really onto something here. I stand corrected!

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The last three losses Federer has had in Grand Slam tournaments were all matches that he really ought to not have lost. That much I can agree on. But these days happen at his age, and it hasn't been just the Grand Slam tournaments either.
 
Nadal injured in 2017 and the other time was freezing cold at night when ball didnt bounce at all hardly!!

Oh come on. I know you can be reasonable, because you and I have had very good reasonable discussions in the past.
 
Oh come on. I know you can be reasonable, because you and I have had very good reasonable discussions in the past.
2017 i dont think nadal was fully fit that day as he just didnt move. And in indian wells if it is cold at night the court plays totally different...as your man Djokovic said after his loss. Novak was spot on as well.

And to be fair the federer fans have gone into troll overdrive this week.
 
Majoring in minors...just one of those terrible things somebody made up on the internet that has no important or relevance (like the concept of having an asterisk next to a slam because you won it without facing your rival).
 
2017 i dont think nadal was fully fit that day as he just didnt move. And in indian wells if it is cold at night the court plays totally different...as your man Djokovic said after his loss. Novak was spot on as well.

And to be fair the federer fans have gone into troll overdrive this week.

OK, can you give me three matches that you feel Nadal was fully fit in that he lost to Federer so I can see the comparison from your point of view?

It is colder at night, I know, I have been there. It also means the ball doesn't travel through the court as quickly, and more difficult to hit through someone and for someone who is aggressive by nature, that goes against them. It helps the defender, counter puncher more.

And lets be fair here, yes, I agree SOME Federer fans have been in overdrive, but the majority have been respectful.
 
OK, can you give me three matches that you feel Nadal was fully fit in that he lost to Federer so I can see the comparison from your point of view?

It is colder at night, I know, I have been there. It also means the ball doesn't travel through the court as quickly, and more difficult to hit through someone and for someone who is aggressive by nature, that goes against them. It helps the defender, counter puncher more.

And lets be fair here, yes, I agree SOME Federer fans have been in overdrive, but the majority have been respectful.
I think slow conditions where the ball doesnt bounce high are bad for Nadal. Think Swarzmann at FO last year and novak FO 2012 where rafa looked lost when ball was not bouncing.

I think Rafa was fully fit a week later in Miami in 2017. I think Rafa was fully fit in Basel last time they played and also the year he lost 3 and 0 to federer at O2.

Im actually not having a go at Federer...i think their rivalry not as exciting as with Djokovic as nadal and federer are much better than the other in certain conditions. Thats not the case with Novak who is i believe the most complete of the three certainly nowadays so their matches with him always more tense as conditions play less of a part.
 
The last three losses Federer has had in Grand Slam tournaments were all matches that he really ought to not have lost. That much I can agree on. But these days happen at his age, and it hasn't been just the Grand Slam tournaments either.
Very true. I put it down to federer physically doesnt recover well in 2nd week of a 5 set format tournament which at 37 is not a surprise
 
I think slow conditions where the ball doesnt bounce high are bad for Nadal. Think Swarzmann at FO last year and novak FO 2012 where rafa looked lost when ball was not bouncing.

I think Rafa was fully fit a week later in Miami in 2017. I think Rafa was fully fit in Basel last time they played and also the year he lost 3 and 0 to federer at O2.

Im actually not having a go at Federer...i think their rivalry not as exciting as with Djokovic as nadal and federer are much better than the other in certain conditions. Thats not the case with Novak who is i believe the most complete of the three certainly nowadays so their matches with him always more tense as conditions play less of a part.

I think it's universally agreed that slow low bouncing conditions don't help Nadal, so you are not alone on that one.

I prefer Djokodal myself also, and Fedovic, but that is probably me being biased also towards Novak.
 
I think it's universally agreed that slow low bouncing conditions don't help Nadal, so you are not alone on that one.

I prefer Djokodal myself also, and Fedovic, but that is probably me being biased also towards Novak.
No you are always neutral but slightly favour Nole in comments but i think he is the x factor that just adds another icing to a very sweet cake between the three. Novak doesnt really have an obvious weakness. Rafa not comfortable with a low bounce federer on BH struggles with high bounce. Novak has no such clear weakness which makes his matchups with both so exciting
 
No you are always neutral but slightly favour Nole in comments but i think he is the x factor that just adds another icing to a very sweet cake between the three. Novak doesnt really have an obvious weakness. Rafa not comfortable with a low bounce federer on BH struggles with high bounce. Novak has no such clear weakness which makes his matchups with both so exciting

Three different, unique, but equally impressive talents, no matter who you are a fan of.
 
We should ask expert, Angie B. But she disappeared when Novak started Majoring at Majors. Now Novak is even Minoring at Minors. Angie should be proud
 
No doubt Fed plays best when he feels no pressure. His brand of free-floying, high precision, attacking tennis is very much dependent on not feeling doubt or nerves. And at the Slams where the stakes are highest, I can totally see him not performing as well.

But another factor is that he is not physically 100% at the Slams more and more. He generally books one or two warm-up tournaments before each Slam and going into them he is fully fit. So if he is playing well / in good form, he will go very far into the draw. By the time the Slam rolls around after a couple of weeks of play he may be having some aches and tightness and it's just harder to stay fresh. But no one's going to go into a Slam without some recent match play so yeah it will be harder and harder for him to be at 100% at the Slams, especially compared to younger players.
 
No you are always neutral but slightly favour Nole in comments but i think he is the x factor that just adds another icing to a very sweet cake between the three. Novak doesnt really have an obvious weakness. Rafa not comfortable with a low bounce federer on BH struggles with high bounce. Novak has no such clear weakness which makes his matchups with both so exciting

None in the world is deprived of weakness
Nole has his own weaknesses like power hitting and all, too, maybe hitman can say more about nole's weaknesses..
Whereas fed clearly struggles against high bouncing shots to BH...(atleast on slower surfaces)
 
He won majority of those in the absence Djokovic, Nadal and Murray and this is discussion about now. If you still claim that you are Jennifer Shrader Lawrence, an American actress born August 15, 1990, I claim that you are not and I am happy to have a bet with you.

Murray .. lol !!!!
 
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