Is Fed's weeks-at-number-1 record safe?

Can Federer stave off the opposition?


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Sport

Legend
Djokovic will be 32 and that's clearly the age of the true and irreversible physical decline or the last prime year (see Nadal 2018)
Overgeneralization. Nadal only got injured 2 Grand Slams on hard courts this year, not enough to see a giant difference between 2017 and 2018. Nadal got injured at Roland Garros 2009 (tendonitis right knee), skipped Wimbledon 2009 (tedonitis right knee) and then got injured again at the US Open 2009 (abdominal pain).
If people were to follow your logic, then Nadal would have started his big physical decline in 2009.
 

junior74

G.O.A.T.
Even from season to season a lot can change and very suddenly. It's usually not effective to predict what's going to happen in the next 5 years based on how the current tour is.
The usual suspects see absolutely no reason why Novak shouldn't be able to win 3 slams pr year the next 5 years = 15 + 14 = 29 slams!

Numbers = facts ;)
 

Sport

Legend
On point, Djokovic will surpass Federer's weeks as #1 record. Note that he doesn't need to do it in consecutive weeks. Even if he loses some points next year at Wimbledon or the US Open and Nadal stays a few weeks as #1, Djokovic will come back soon to be # 1. So I predict he will be the number 1 for the most weeks of the next 3 years.
 

terribleIVAN

Professional
Novak has it simply because his only real threat was Nadal, which is one injury away from retirement.

The young guns can win a slam here and there, but they can't compete consistently all year on all surfaces like Novak can and this is why he will take the record ultimately, as he still has 2 good years left at the very top.

When Novak wins AO 2019, then wins either WIMBLEDON or USO the thing will be in the bag.
 
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Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Ask Sampras...who would have thought 3 people would break/tie his slam record in the very next generation? The record seemed safe at the time he retired!
They are not "the very next generation".

They are "the next two generations".

:cool:
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is coming for all of feds records. The old man is far from safe!
8 Wimbledon titles? :p

But seriously, I am not one of those Federer fans who say everything is safe because Djokovic is SOOOO old himself. Of course it is possible for Nole to win 20 Slams and to be on top for over 300 weeks. I really think Federer has still something to do.

By the way, let’s hope for a nice match today. ;)
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
8 Wimbledon titles? :p

But seriously, I am not one of those Federer fans who say everything is safe because Djokovic is SOOOO old himself. Of course it is possible for Nole to win 20 Slams and to be on top for over 300 weeks. I really think Federer has still something to do.

By the way, let’s hope for a nice match today. ;)
I quite enjoy seeing the daydreaming that some folks here display.

The inevitability of what follows is always a nice mental image.

:cool:
 

jimjam

Professional
Not 100% related but didn’t want to open a new topic. Does anyone know if Fed and Nadal are bound to be in same group at the wtf (1+4 seeds in one group, 2+3 seeds in the other) or there is some randomisation involved.
 
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Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
Not 100% related but didn’t want to open a new topic. Does anyone know if Fed and Nadal are bound to be in same group at the wtf (1-4 seeds in one group, 2-3 seeds in the other) or there is some randomisation involved.
1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 can't get into the same group I think, the rest is random.

Fedal RR is 50/50
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Not 100% related but didn’t want to open a new topic. Does anyone know if Fed and Nadal are bound to be in same group at the wtf (1-4 seeds in one group, 2-3 seeds in the other) or there is some randomisation involved.
World number one and world number two always end up in the opposite round robin groups regardless of seeds! For other lower ranked players its a gamble...but its more often than not, that world number three, five and seven ends up in the same group as world number one, as opposed to world number two, who ends up more often with 4th, 6th and 8th ranked players in one group...In other words Federer is way more likely to land in the same group as Djokovic, rather than with Nadal, given Nadal decides to play (Which i don't see anyway...)
 

beard

Professional
It's random, if I remember correctly:
Slot 1: no1 or no2
Slot 2: no3 or no4
Slot 3: no5 or no6
Slot 4: no7 or no8
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
It's random, if I remember correctly:
Slot 1: no1 or no2
Slot 2: no3 or no4
Slot 3: no5 or no6
Slot 4: no7 or no8
I remember clearly the cases, when two tennis players, ranked lower than world number two, but who were positioned next to each other in rankings ended up i nthe same group...not sure when it was and who it was though! But it was like 7th and 8th ending up in the same group or something...or maybe its just me mixing it all up...
 

Luka888

Hall of Fame
The thing is, I'm not so sure who is going to stop him .... I don't see anybody to be honest with you :whistle:.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Looks like Djokok can get quite close to it and may even take another YE#1 this year unless Fed himself takes that away.
 

BGod

Legend
Near certainty now. Novak improved on the 5 Masters and 2 Slams from last year he's played up to now. So even if he sputtered down the stretch it's unlikely Nadal would make up the ground until the WTF and that's improbable.
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
I remember clearly the cases, when two tennis players, ranked lower than world number two, but who were positioned next to each other in rankings ended up i nthe same group...not sure when it was and who it was though! But it was like 7th and 8th ending up in the same group or something...or maybe its just me mixing it all up...
You are mixing it up. It couldn't have happened by rule... Unless an alternate made it in, of course

You could get #2 and #3, or #4 and #5, or #6 and #7 in the same group
 
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TripleATeam

Legend
Near certainty now. Novak improved on the 5 Masters and 2 Slams from last year he's played up to now. So even if he sputtered down the stretch it's unlikely Nadal would make up the ground until the WTF and that's improbable.
Don't be hasty. There's a whole other year - 51 weeks. However, this does mean that this Wimbledon and US Open will be crucial toward seeing if Djokovic can surpass Federer at #1. If he wins them both, he'll do it. If he goes far but doesn't win, he's still got a pretty good chance unless it's Nadal that wins them.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Hopefully not. I mean, we all b-tch and moan about it, the fact that it's always the big 3 and the rest of the field doesn't seem to catch up.
But, in truth, that race for GOAT status between Fed, Djoko and Nadal is unique and exciting. And what keeps it so special is the fact that they are all still active and final outcome is still open.
 
Hopefully not. I mean, we all b-tch and moan about it, the fact that it's always the big 3 and the rest of the field doesn't seem to catch up.
But, in truth, that race for GOAT status between Fed, Djoko and Nadal is unique and exciting. And what keeps it so special is the fact that they are all still active and final outcome is still open.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! :giggle::giggle::giggle:;)
I was saying: perfect chance for Djoko to beat up on Fed but apparently Fed chickened out (same as WTF 2014 :eek:) ;)
Fed is even more scared of Djoko now that he has become the GOAT :D:p
He IS the GOAT :D (whether people believe it or not :p)
Djoko leads the head to head vs the other big 4. All of them. Overall. Now THAT's damning (but normal for the GOAT :p)
He's already done that. Became the GOAT in Cincy. :D
Nope. He needed to beat the GOAT to get to Fed. However even that would not have happened because your pseudo-goat is actually a CHICKEN!!! Cluck cluck cluck :p:D
Still Fed by a hairsbreadth but Djoko doesn't care since he is the overall GOAT :p (only player to have won all big titles on every surface).

Hard court:
Winning %: Djoko 84.2 (#1) - Fed 83.1 (#2)
Overall titles: Djoko 55 - Fed 68
Slams: Djoko 10 - Fed 11
WTF: Djoko 5 - Fed 6
Masters: Djoko 24 - Fed 21
Tier 1 combined: Djoko 39 - Fed 38
Djoko and the GOAT are the same person. :cool:
It's been effective rarely. Hence 20-9. Once does not prove any rule. Stop messing with the Djoko GOATness. Bow to it before it's too late. You're no match for the Djoko GOAT :):p
Of course, the GOAT debate is settled. Djokovic: only player to have held the 4 slams at once and only player to have won every tier 1. If head to head is your cup of tea, then let's add: only player to have a winning head to head vs Fed and Nadal :p
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Yes it is. What's exciting is the ongoing fluctuations for every record. I do not see any contradiction in there.
 
A little slip up for Novak at W and USO, and Rafa winning/making the finals of both would put Novak's weeks at #1 chase in jeopardy. Interesting times ahead!
 
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TripleATeam

Legend
Between Wimbledon and the US Open it will be decided who will end with more weeks as number 1 in the Open Era.
Well, for now. It's possible Djokovic could mount another offensive even if he falls short for now. However, yes. These next two slams determine if Djokovic takes it from Fed in the next year.
 
Djokovic is not yet chasing Federer's tally. Right now, he is chasing Connors and Lendl. Djokovic started his 259th week as #1 yesterday. Connors is on 268. Lendl is on 270. Djokovic is guaranteed to keep the #1 ranking after Wimbledon, which means next week will be his 260th week as #1. That's the week of July 15th. Nadal is not playing again until Montreal. That guarantees Djokovic three more weeks as #1, taking him to 263. Nadal is reigning champion in Canada, so he cannot gain points that week, and Djokovic is only defending 90, which is not enough to swing it. So, Djokovic is guaranteed week #264 the week of Cincinnati (week of August 11th). Nadal may have a slight chance of overtaking the following week. However, it's most likely that Djokovic will keep the ranking for that week and for the two of the US Open, taking him to 267 weeks. Nadal could certainly overtake the day after the US Open. If he does not, then Djokovic will equal Connors the day after the US Open.
 
Sure Nadal is ahead in the race and will stay that way if he makes the final. Though I expect Djokovic to have a better second half to the season. I think he’ll break it.

Poor Fed fans Djokodal are going to catch all his big records :)
Nadal's lead is just under 800 points, so if Djokovic wins the title, I think he goes to #1 in the race, even if Nadal is runner-up. No?
 

MeatTornado

Legend
Beginning of the year I was actually hopeful that Novak would have a slight decline (aka only win 1 or maybe 2 majors) and someone like Zverev or Thiem who play a thousand tournaments could finally take the next step and actually reach #1.

Welp.
 
Beginning of the year I was actually hopeful that Novak would have a slight decline (aka only win 1 or maybe 2 majors) and someone like Zverev or Thiem who play a thousand tournaments could finally take the next step and actually reach #1.

Welp.
As a Djoko fan, I was hoping the same for Rafa :p

But must be said, Nadal looks like an unstoppable force right now!
 

Imperator

Professional
Beginning of the year I was actually hopeful that Novak would have a slight decline (aka only win 1 or maybe 2 majors) and someone like Zverev or Thiem who play a thousand tournaments could finally take the next step and actually reach #1.

Welp.
He has won only one so far.
 
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