Is getting to number 1 when others are not playing

atp2015 said:
There is some emptiness to the achievement however great a feat it is.
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Dunno im pretty sure nadal feels quite happy with his no1 rankings each time he got them through scraps and withdrawals. Sure hes pretty smug he only got no1 because a 36 year old post surgery was the only competition and didnt play clay

for his latest no1 yes he was only a paper no1 but he was no1 though. He felt fine not being able to neat no2 player.

As for this era. Yes it is a weak one and one that nadal failed to dominate even though literally his only competition was a 36 year old post surgery injured player. But we already knew nadal would never dominate an era, he hasnt done so in the past and his defeats by darcy, brown, mueller, fognini, pouille etc etc prove he has hugely inflated his slam count and no1 weeks via lack of competition

You have suffered an intense humiliation and are struggling to cope. Reading tennis news isnt going to help. The media now only care about the 20 slam 100 title 300 week no 1 nadal is the guy who also played tennis in this mans era. I know this must be hard for and you have lost the forum too as all threads are now going to be about fed. Poor vamos. It would be wise to learn from your humiliation move on and then we can all have intelligent discussions about nadal, djok, fed or whoever and give them the props they deserve. This will involve you learning from the intense humiliation bamos trollbase and others have experienced which may be unlikely as said humiliation was so intense and trolls have fragile egos
 
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Batzmo said:
Dunno im pretty sure nadal feels quite happy with his no1 rankings each time he got them tgrough scraps and withdrawals

As for his latest no1 yes he qas only a paper no1 but he was no1

As for this era. Yes it is a weak one and one that nadal failed to dominate even though literally his only competition was a 36 year old post surgery injured player. But we already knew nadal would never dominate an era, he hasnt done so in the past and his defeats by darcy, brown, mueller, fognini, pouille etc etc
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They are bitter because it could be one more thing Federer can outdo Nadal in if Federer becomes the oldest no. 1ever. It is already getting a lot of media coverage especially from the TC and ATP. You know how certain players fans feel when Federer gets a lot of media coverage?
 
atp2015 said:
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Hahahahahaha vamos brigrade experience mental breakdown. Becoming unhinged at the intense humiliation being dished out over tbis forum and of being overtaken by a 36 year old hahhaha

No refuge in this forum either poor you. Every single forum post about federer. Awww. And media dont care about nadal who will shortly be celebrity big brother to increase his profile now that people only care about the 20 slam 100 title legend
 
Nadal did it when Federer pulled out of Cinci, as I recall Nadal didn't even have to win a match.

Don't worry, if Federer doesn't get enough points, Nadal can take it back when Federer isn't playing when Acupulco/Dubai is on. If Federer does get enough points he could have gone to Dubai and done as well and secured number 1, it's if anything an easier field there
 
Fed is keenly aware of stats and for whatever it is, he deserves it. Just like Nadal last year and anyone who has ever been number one. The idea of weak or that infamous moral number 1 is BS. Simple math. Do better in more tournaments and you get it. Fed will have it and only time will tell if it sticks.




Probably posting from the court between sets.
 
atp2015 said:
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True. There should be an asterisk by achievements earned when the main opponents were injured or absent. That means Lendl loses the 1990 Aussie Open because Edberg retired during the final.. .and Nadal loses Wimbledon 2010 because Federer was injured versus Berdych, and he also loses the 2017 USO because Federer was injured and Djokovic and Murray were absent. Murray loses Wimbledon 2016 because Federer was injured and Nadal was absent.

I'm pretty sure we can find some stuff like this for at least 50% of all achievements in tennis.

Or, you could look at it another way: if you want to be part of the equation of greatness you best don't get injured. And certainly don't let it diminish the achievements of others when you are injured.
 
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None of it feels great since the Murray No.1. It's all been more due to circumstances and misfortune than peak competition. As Federer said himself he should not be No.1. Given the injuries and age none of the Big 3-5 should be. I do not mind the tennis but it feels like last man standing for several years. Womans tennis also feels bit similar. It's pity next gen seem unable to push several gen prior.
 
atp2015 said:
Probably there is.
Fed himself said he wants to earn by beating a tough competitor and not a player ranked 50.
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One can ascend to #1 on a week he’s lounging on vacation depending on how the points fall. Nice enough to have the ranking exactly correspond with a win over a great player as happened for Murray, but the system isn’t designed that way.
 
atp2015 said:
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There's nothing more than a great sense of fulfillment for a 36.5 years old Federer if he capture the #1 ranking tomorrow. He's clearly the best player on the tour when most players at his age are either retire or playing on the senior tour. Being the oldest player in history to ever be #1 will be even sweeter. Wilson or Nike might create a limited special edition of rackets and shoes in celebration/honor of Federer's historic #1 ranking.
 
atp2015 said:
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Rafa got to no. 1 with just over 7.600 points, because Murray was out and injured and Federer was as well. That's the lowest number of points for a no. 1 since before Fed became no. 1 in 2004. In 6 of the last 11 years that amount of points wouldn't even get him a YE. ranking as no. 3 (see post 83 for full details)

If Federer gets to no. 1, he'll have close to 10.000s (above if he wins the tournament) come Monday. No comparison.
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017...nnati-rafael-nadal-new-atp-no-1-tennis/68529/
 
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Speaking as a Rafa fan here, so take this with a grain of salt if you prefer, but I would encourage even non-Federer fans to sit back and enjoy what Roger has been doing this week. The guy is playing like a maniac.

Sure, there are some Fed fans who are maybe behaving like "bad winners" on here but people should disregard this.

Don't deny the quality of Roger's tennis just because you are a little perturbed by the behaviour of a small minority of fans.

Slightly off-topic, but Rotterdam will most likely get voted one of the top 5 ATP tourneys this year imo. The quality of the matches all-round has been superb.

Congrats to Roger's fans and a hat-tip to the man himself.

I really wish we could see him play at least RG or Rome this year.

I hope, depending on how he is feeling after IW and M, that he seriously considers giving it a try.
 
atp2015 said:
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Not, really, do you know how hard competition is? Federer won most majors and most masters and has best win% including destroying nr.2 and he still isn't nr.1.

This just proves how tough Rafa has been and how sweet it will taste if he manages to do it.

It's a pretty tough era when winning 3 of the last 5 majors still isn't good enough for nr.1 ranking.

And, it's still not in the bad, it's 95% in the bag, but you never know for sure.
 
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Why is he playing at Rotterdam then?
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Ok, that's like saying that last 10 meters of the marathon are entire marathon, come one, you are smart, you know the answer to that already.

You can't define entire marathon by the last 10 meters, even you can understand that.

Also, you can blame the flawed ranking system, Federer should already be nr.1 in Australia. He has best win%, he owns top 10 and he won 3 out last 5 majors, plus won most masters too.
 
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