Is Haas using a new prototype?

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Type40

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Watching the Haas Roddick match from the olympics the other day, and I notice Haas's racquet does not look like a 200g, there was no yellow/gold paint on it at all, it was entirely black. My thought was that it was a 200g XL, but the XL does not have a black paint job.

Anyone see the match or know what racquet that was?
 
Well, I don't know what he's using exactly... but the model he's playing with is made to look like the 200G Muscle Weave. That's the immediate predecessor of the 200G HM.
 
It's a Dunlop Muscle Weave 200G paintjob - black with silver and some exposed charcoal carbon fiber. It's the same racquet Haas has been using for years. It's supposed to be similar to a regular MW 200G but with a stiffer, reinforced throat. But who knows? It could be a Head Pro Tour 280 underneath that Dunlop paintjob.
 
That's the point, the raquet was not painted to look like the dunlop, you can see yourself if you download the match via the bittorrent
 
tommytom11 said:
Tommy's racquets are custom made for him and then painted to look like the Dunlop.
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well, it's simply Dunlop's "tour mold"

Ask Micheal Ludwig, cuz he knows all the info on pros racquets. But from what he told me, it's Dunlop's tour mold with the MW 200g paintjob. Haas didn't like how the new HM paintjob played, so he has been sticking to his older batch of racquets (the MW paint job ones.)
 
Type40 said:
That's the point, the raquet was not painted to look like the dunlop, you can see yourself if you download the match via the bittorrent
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Type40,
Did you know the Dunlop 200G has been around for 22 years? Within that time, the racquet has gone through many changes and many different paintjobs. The current 200G for sale is the Hot Melt (HM) 200G with the black frame and yellow color blocks at the throat and top of the head. As you can see from the pics, that's not the paintjob that Haas is using. He is using the paintjob of the Muscle Weave (MW) 200G which came before the HM 200G. The MW 200G has a silver throat and shaft and the black carbon fiber colored head. Get it?
 
Yes, i am well aware of the versions of 200g, and you are wrong,
the one he used at the olympics is not the muscle weave, and it is not the hot melt either. There is no silver paint on the one he was using, it is all black. Get it?
 
The link you just posted was for the picture of the MW 200G and the "silver" part is at the throat and the shaft. I would not consider it silver because it is slightly dark.
 
I Sat court side with Tommy yesterday at the Open, and saw first hand that he does use the 200g MW paint job, theres no way its a HM with a MW paintjob ontop because of the curves in the design.

Also, "red" he coach had a very interesting and new 200g, this one was black with silver patches where the HM has its yellow.

Anyone have any idea what kind of stick that is?
 
you sat next to Tommy personally? or you mean while he was playing?


I believe that black/silver is a HM 400g paintjob.
 
Well, i don't know what the right answer to wheter ore not Haas' rackert is a HM 200G painted in MW colours ore if it actually is the old MW 200G. However, if people in this forum can tell that it's not a HM 200G painted in MW 200G coloures, by the shape of the rackert, that must meen that Haas is more satisfied with the MW 200G (Even tough it's customized to him, it's closer to the MW 200G than the HM 200G) .

To me, Dunlop took the MW 200G wich was great and made the HM 200G wich sucked. Off course, they should play similar. But i cannot play with the HM 200G, it's just something wrong with the feel i get from it. I don't have the same good feel of control as i had with the MW 200G. When i playtested the MW 200G the first time, i was 100% sure i had found the right rackert for me, it was so great. When i found out that the MW 200G was no longer avialable for sale, i ordered the HM 200G wich i tought was the same rackert (STUPID ME!!). I simpley had to find another rackert because i couldn't play with the HM 200G. Removing the head light balance from the MW 200G and making it stiffer, was not a good idea from my point of view.

I hope Dunlop will consider realising a new 200G that comes closer to the MW 200G, especially if Haas and all the other 200G pro's find the MW 200G better. (If it is that rackert they have gone back to)
 
I honestly don't think Haas is using a 200G MW nor a 200G HM. I am convinced that he's using either a purely custom racquet supplied by Dunlop or maybe one of the older 200G iterations.

But that's not to knock either the MW or the HM. I like the 200G HM a lot, but it's stiff on the mishit, but has that nice cushy "pok" feel on clean hits. However, I do prefer the 200G MW for its overall more comfortable feell.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I'm quite interested in trying out the Dunlop 100G if I can get my hands on one. Supposedly, it's only available in Europe (I'm guessing Japan and some Asian countries as well).

Back to Haas... From what I've heard (mostly from other discussions on the topic), Haas doesn't like the feel of the 200G HM paintjob, somehow the alterations in its visual design change the balance of the racquet. So he used his old 200G MW looking racquets, that he's had for years, and uses those. Of course that actually makes you wonder how much cosmetic differences alter a racquet, or whether or not Haas is an exception who uses the real thing.

Sigh... somebody email Haas and ask him... But I'm pretty sure it's different from the MW and HM... But in the end, I like the 200G MW myself and even like the 200G HM too (though to a lesser extent).

-Chanchai
 
The HM's finish has a rubbery feel to it, while the MW's is hard. I guess it could give a difference in how the racket feels. As I posted earlier, my HM 100 feels softer than my MW 90.
 
From watching Haas' match yesterday against Mello, I think Haas may be actually using a MW 100G because the head of his racquet looks smaller than 95 sq. in. to me. It just might be the MW 100G with the 90 sq. in. head.

I've also heard his racquet is more flexible than the standard HM 200G so I guess the MW 100G would fit that description. You can tell he uses a flexible racquet from the way he whips through his backhands. If his racquets were very stiff, I think those backhands would be hitting the back wall.

BTW, I guess it's also possible that his flexible racquets are actually Head Prestige Classics with a MW 200G/100G paintjob. The head size and shape look more like the Head's oval 93 sq. in. than the Dunlop's rounder 95 sq. in. head to me.
 
Haas's racquet has been well documented.

It is not a Head Prestiege, it is not a 100g....it is Dunlop's Tour Mold with the Muscle Weave paint job.
 
jackson vile said:
Where can you get the Dunlop Tour Mold?
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There was a new dunlop 200g, w/ 'tour specification' and 'wayne ferriera' ID/label, on throat, recently on the -bay, auctioned by a chap up at davis,ca.
 
I think his racquet is not the MW 200G. I have one o thouse (excellent racquets) and for me, the throat area is totally different. It seems aerodinamic, while the MW 200G is flat. I think he uses at least 95sq (or even 100sq), his racquet seems bigger than 90 for me. But it's subjetive and very difficult to note. The only clear different thing in the troat. Did you notice that? (perhaps I'm wrong)
 
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