Is it becoming a danger for nadal lately??

Agreed? Slow HC + Big hitter = Kryptonite of nadal

  • Yes

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  • No

    Votes: 5 35.7%

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The combo of Big hitter plus slow Hard Court conditions.
Either he loses or even if he wins, he leaves the stadium flat or ground out, as he's forced into long attritional war and ball bashing off both wings....
 

Pantera

Banned
The combo of Big hitter plus slow Hard Court conditions.
Either he loses or even if he wins, he leaves the stadium flat or ground out, as he's forced into long attritional war and ball bashing off both wings....
No not at all. Nadal has a weak knee due to an issue from birth and it flares up. He is getting older and has dominated the sport along with Djokovic for over a decade and obviously he is very prone now to injury
 
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No not at all. Nadal has a weak knee due to an issue from birth and it flares up. He is getting older and has dominated the sport along with Djokovic for over a decade and obviously he is very prone now to injury
His issue is with his foot, which puts extra strain on the knee. The knee itself is not weak, it is negatively impacted by his foot.
 
No not at all. Nadal has a weak knee due to an issue from birth and it flares up. He is getting older and has dominated the sport along with Djokovic for over a decade and obviously he is very prone now to injury
I think knee surgery was the issue for federer too...
But what hurts nadal is the grinding ballbashing tennis with big hitters for hours long matches...
And of course, as you said, age is afterall age..
That's why I used the word lately...
As this wasn't a big problem for early nadal
 
Not in all tournaments (USO 2017, AO 2019). He should skip Masters 1000 on hard courts though.
USO17 was a slow court actually(us garros tbh)..
But he didn't face any zoning big hitter throughout the draw (JMDP was completely washed up before semis)
 

smash hit

Professional
I think knee surgery was the issue for federer too
Not remotely the same. Federer had an injury that can be sustained by anyone, but which can be successfully repaired.

That's why I used the word lately...
As this wasn't a big problem for early nadal
But it was a problem early in his career. He thought his career was over at the age of 19. Adjustments made to his footwear to protect his foot have created problems elsewhere. It's an ongoing issue.
 

smash hit

Professional
What is his foot issue about?
After several foot injuries in Rafa’s early career a Specialist in Madrid finally identified that Rafa suffered from a Congenital rare disease of the Tarsal Scaphoid – which turned out to be his own unique version of the Achilles’ heel. As a professional tennis player, repetitive stress on this part of the foot causes the bone to splinter. This had first happened to Rafa when he was only 19 years old and the advice from the specialist is that he ‘might’ have to retire from professional tennis.

Naturally this devastated Rafa but his Dad stepped in and decided to do some research so that this problem would not stand in the way of Rafa’s career.

With instructions/directions from the specialist in Madrid, Nike then designed a tennis shoe especially for Rafa with a much thicker sole, more elevated, particularly in the area which now acted as a custion for the scaphoid bone.

As all orthotics or adjustments to shoes alter the region of the foot where weight naturally falls and, as the specialist had predicted, when Rafa first began wearing these altered shoes he started suffering muscle strains where he’d never had problems before, in the back, knees and thighs.

As Rafa continued wearing his new shoes new problems kept cropping up, obliging new but critical changes to be made to the soles. Years later they still make these adjustments!
 

DSH

Hall of Fame
How much longer do you think Nadal can continue playing?
my prognosis was RG 2021 but seeing the latest events, his constant injuries, his next marriage, his investments in Mexico and elsewhere may be the retirement is closer than previously thought.
If he does not win RG 2019 where he is still the favorite, it may be the end of the journey for Spaniard.
Adiós, bull!
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
How much longer do you think Nadal can continue playing?
Here's what we know:

Since the USO, 2017, Nadal hasn't been able to really compete successfully on HC's. Proof is below:

Paris 2017 - withdrawal before QF's
YEC 2017 - withdrawal after 1 round robin match
AO 2018 - retirement in QF's
Acapulco 2018 - withdrawal
Indian Wells 2018 - withdrawal
Miami 2018 - withdrawal
Canada 2018 - plays
Cincinnati 2018 - withdrawal
US Open 2018 - retirement in SF
Shanghai 2018 - withdrawal
Paris 2018 - withdrawal
WTF 2018 - withdrawal
Brisbane 2019 - withdrawal
AO 2019 - Makes the final
Acapulco 2019 - Loses to Nick
Indian Wells 2019 - withdrawal before SF
Miami 2019 - withdrawal


So Rafa has been able to complete a HC tournament in three tournaments out of 17 (3/17).

I don't know why he didn't transition his schedule in 2018 to playing nothing but clay aside from the AO and the USO. He doesn't need any warm up events, as this year's AO proved. He played a couple of exo matches and made the final anyway. Rafa should play an all clay schedule from now on aside from the slams.
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Here's what we know:

Since the USO, 2017, Nadal hasn't been able to really compete successfully on HC's. Proof is below:

Paris 2017 - withdrawal before QF's
YEC 2017 - withdrawal after 1 round robin match
AO 2018 - retirement in QF's
Acapulco 2018 - withdrawal
Indian Wells 2018 - withdrawal
Miami 2018 - withdrawal
Canada 2018 - plays
Cincinnati 2018 - withdrawal
US Open 2018 - retirement in SF
Shanghai 2018 - withdrawal
Paris 2018 - withdrawal
WTF 2018 - withdrawal
Brisbane 2019 - withdrawal
AO 2019 - Makes the final
Acapulco 2019 - Loses to Nick
Indian Wells 2019 - withdrawal before SF
Miami 2019 - withdrawal


So Rafa has been able to complete a HC tournament in three tournaments out of 17 (3/17).

I don't know why he didn't transition his schedule in 2018 to playing nothing but clay aside from the AO and the USO. He doesn't need any warm up events, as this year's AO proved. He played a couple of exo matches and made the final anyway. Rafa should play an all clay schedule from now on aside from the slams.
Money.

:cool:
 

DSH

Hall of Fame
Here's what we know:

Since the USO, 2017, Nadal hasn't been able to really compete successfully on HC's. Proof is below:

Paris 2017 - withdrawal before QF's
YEC 2017 - withdrawal after 1 round robin match
AO 2018 - retirement in QF's
Acapulco 2018 - withdrawal
Indian Wells 2018 - withdrawal
Miami 2018 - withdrawal
Canada 2018 - plays
Cincinnati 2018 - withdrawal
US Open 2018 - retirement in SF
Shanghai 2018 - withdrawal
Paris 2018 - withdrawal
WTF 2018 - withdrawal
Brisbane 2019 - withdrawal
AO 2019 - Makes the final
Acapulco 2019 - Loses to Nick
Indian Wells 2019 - withdrawal before SF
Miami 2019 - withdrawal


So Rafa has been able to complete a HC tournament in three tournaments out of 17 (3/17).

I don't know why he didn't transition his schedule in 2018 to playing nothing but clay aside from the AO and the USO. He doesn't need any warm up events, as this year's AO proved. He played a couple of exo matches and made the final anyway. Rafa should play an all clay schedule from now on aside from the slams.

so, 12 events maximum per year for the Bull?
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Here's what we know:

Since the USO, 2017, Nadal hasn't been able to really compete successfully on HC's. Proof is below:

Paris 2017 - withdrawal before QF's
YEC 2017 - withdrawal after 1 round robin match
AO 2018 - retirement in QF's
Acapulco 2018 - withdrawal
Indian Wells 2018 - withdrawal
Miami 2018 - withdrawal
Canada 2018 - plays
Cincinnati 2018 - withdrawal
US Open 2018 - retirement in SF
Shanghai 2018 - withdrawal
Paris 2018 - withdrawal
WTF 2018 - withdrawal
Brisbane 2019 - withdrawal
AO 2019 - Makes the final
Acapulco 2019 - Loses to Nick
Indian Wells 2019 - withdrawal before SF
Miami 2019 - withdrawal


So Rafa has been able to complete a HC tournament in three tournaments out of 17 (3/17).

I don't know why he didn't transition his schedule in 2018 to playing nothing but clay aside from the AO and the USO. He doesn't need any warm up events, as this year's AO proved. He played a couple of exo matches and made the final anyway. Rafa should play an all clay schedule from now on aside from the slams.
So in all seriousness, even with his SF or QF retirements, who else has had the same slam results as him over the last 2 years?
There is no one on the tour with his consistency over that period.
AO 17 Final, RG winner, W 4R, USO Winner
AO 18 QF, RG Winner, W Semi final, USO Semi final
AO19 Final.

These are the tournaments that matter. Not Shanghai or Paris:rolleyes:
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
On topic, as much as Nadal will want to keep competing in Masters and slams outwith clay, I think by next year he may be down to just a HC warmup before each slam, nothing before Wimbledon, and just 3 clay events.
Its time to be realistic, he doesn't need tons of warmup events before slams. He has the experience, the same as Federer , and that's why they can jump straight in after layoffs, and still go deep.

The masters record is going to Djokovic sooner than later anyway.
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
It’s really surprising how you still didn’t get banned from here.
LOL for what? Not liking Nadal? I'd say that makes me quite reasonable. His speed and court coverage are either not human or assisted by "something else". Thats the joke.
 
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