Is it just me or does this new gen fist pump every point they win, especially Alcaraz?

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btsjungkook

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I thought fist pumping was mostly Wta players but now Atp players are rivalling them now. The greats of the past and even the big 3 never fist pumped this much and if they did, it was usually a important point. I like Alcaraz and all but his fist pumping and grunting are kinda annoying.
 
Thank God my boy doesn't follow the herd. He grunts once in a blue moon.

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Sinner also fist pumped so many times during the Djokovic match this year despite not winning one set. I wonder why the new generation has to fist pump so much, is it to keep concentration?
 
Vincent-C said:
It's beyond absurd how much and how vigorously Alky fist-pumps, et c.
Enhancement has its downsides.
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He doesn't just fist pump, he double fist pumps. He's even making Djokovic fist pump more than he used to, though I think he does it to mock Alcaraz lol.
 
Who cares. You won the point, you deserve to celebrate as long as within the time limit and not offensive. Don't like it? Tell the other guy to not lose the point.

I really don't care at all what players do in between points as long as legal and inoffensive. Only take issue with cheating.
 
I try to be tolerant of player idiosyncrasies and am of the belief that players should do whatever they need to play their best tennis, as long as it's within the rules. But in this case I agree. The constant fist pumping and assorted histrionics are rather annoying. There's nothing particularly wrong with the acts in themselves, but the frequency is way too much.

But of course it's not their fault. This is how they're taught. Most of you probably remember that viral video from Laver Cup where Roger and Rafa are coaching Zverev behind the scenes. What was Roger saying? Something to the effect of "I want a fist pump and a 'come on' after every point" while Rafa added "not one negative face." Remaining positive at all times during matches -- even if it requires "engineering" your positivity -- is a coaching point of emphasis, and the young stars on tour are nothing if not good students. I do hope they grow out of it at some point.
 
I try to be measured in responding to stuff like this as really, this kind of thing is not something to care about.

But being honest, the celebrations are pretty grating when they are constant and initiated over very little. Seeing as we’re here grinding axes, I reckon Shelton would do well to tone down the incessant bellowings of “YEAH!” etc, too.
 
btsjungkook said:
But you like Carlos and Nadal right? Though at least Nadal mostly does it in important points unlike Alcaraz and Sinner. It feels like a competition on who can fist pump more.
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Alcaraz is the future of tennis, but he's ticking me off w/ those incessant fist-pumps! Nadal doing it on a double fault was the worst though! :) :-D :laughing: :happydevil:
 
I have been attending some junior badminton and table tennis tournaments for my kid. All the juniors also fist pump crazy. It’s a generational thing I believe
 
mahatma said:
I have been attending some junior badminton and table tennis tournaments for my kid. All the juniors also fist pump crazy. It’s a generational thing I believe
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It started in 1985 w/ Martina Navratilova & Ivan Lendl! Even Chris Evert picked it up at times! Now it's gotten ridiculous on both tours w/ Carlos truly overdoing it! :) :happydevil:
 
btsjungkook said:
Sinner also fist pumped so many times during the Djokovic match this year despite not winning one set. I wonder why the new generation has to fist pump so much, is it to keep concentration?
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My theory - grew up with smart phones since they could handle one, plus social media, texting, and internet as a foundational, completely normal part of their existence. Plus many have helicopter Gen X parents (who themselves often had the exact opposite of helicopter parents). "Addicted" to feedback. It's their life blood - they need feedback. Fist pump is feedback to themselves and gets a reaction from the crowd, and the players that do it usually look in their corner's direction for even more feedback. That's my completely unscientific, merely observational "hot take."
 
yea, that is annoying.
They say Alcaraz always looks at his box after every point too.
Do young players really need that constant visual support?
 
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It's annoying to me. If it were just after a great point, that'd be ok, but every point won?
Act like you've done it before. Fed rarely did it, but he would shakes his racket, which is much cooler.

Danielle Collins did it best, after hitting a blistering winner, she blew on her racket to cool it off.
 
I think a lot of it is taught to young players these days. There’s the idea of generating positive energy to create positive results.

It’s rampant in college tennis. Yelling and fist pumping after nearly every point on all courts. To me it kinda just washes it all out after a while to where it becomes white noise and doesn’t mean anything. But I guess it helps some players stay focused and positive.
 
Clemson_tennis said:
I think a lot of it is taught to young players these days. There’s the idea of generating positive energy to create positive results.

It’s rampant in college tennis. Yelling and fist pumping after nearly every point on all courts. To me it kinda just washes it all out after a while to where it becomes white noise and doesn’t mean anything. But I guess it helps some players stay focused and positive.
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It’s got to be. Positive affirmations. I mean it is probably a very effective method for a lot of players so can’t knock it too much, but there is a cliched and tiresome “live, laugh, love” element to it when it becomes so overused.
 
It’s a bit excessive, but like the annoying grunts I’m sadly getting used to it. Not wta though can’t tolerate the yelling/shrieking. There was a time when the non-grunters outnumbered the grunters. Now the time has come where the “every” point fist pumpers (even on opponents unforced errors and dbl faults) are taking over.
 
Clay lover said:
Who cares. You won the point, you deserve to celebrate as long as within the time limit and not offensive. Don't like it? Tell the other guy to not lose the point.

I really don't care at all what players do in between points as long as legal and inoffensive. Only take issue with cheating.
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Good post.

A sensible view on something that gets taken way too seriously by the casual fan.
 
btsjungkook said:
I thought fist pumping was mostly Wta players but now Atp players are rivalling them now. The greats of the past and even the big 3 never fist pumped this much and if they did, it was usually a important point. I like Alcaraz and all but his fist pumping and grunting are kinda annoying.
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Blame Jimmy Conners 1st and Leyton Hewitt 2nd. These two guys between constructed the modern day era fist pump.
Sinner in particular is cringe since by his own admission fist pumping goes against his personality type but was adopted due to it's ability to draw in a crowd. This is beyond tennis. It goes against human integrity in general.
Imagine if Borg had gone contrary to his character and started fist pumping instead of what he actually did which was to save any kind of celebration until an actual title win.
 
Dodd66 said:
Blame Jimmy Conners 1st and Leyton Hewitt 2nd. These two guys between constructed the modern day era fist pump.
Sinner in particular is cringe since by his own admission fist pumping goes against his personality type but was adopted due to it's ability to draw in a crowd. This is beyond tennis. It goes against human integrity in general.
Imagine if Borg had gone contrary to his character and started fist pumping instead of what he actually did which was to save any kind of celebration until an actual title win.
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Then Nadal is the Oppenheimer of the Fist Pump. He truly made it into a weapon of mass destruction
 
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