Is Kyrgios a one-dimensional servebot or a more complete player?

[Sport]

Is Kyrgios a one-dimensional servebot like Raonic, Anderson, Isner and the likes?

Has Kyrgios a better baseline game, forehand, backhand or return game than the average servebot?

I see him as a servebot with a slightly better than average baseline game, but I also think he is overrated. Everytime he loses, people faults his psychology not his game per se.

Kyrgios is not that good. Even when he is 100% focused he loses to people outside the Big 3, like he did against Dimitrov in AO 2018.

 

[zverev2018]

Compared to players like Federer and Nadal he’s a servebot. Compared to players like Isner and Raonic he’s a complete player.

 

[Krish872007]

I think he is a bit overrated and in fact someone like Kevin Anderson actually possesses a more reliable ground game as of now. His strokes still need a bit of work to become truly consistent. Or he just needs to try and redline each match and hope for the best.

 

[NoleFam]

Is this a trick question?

 

[parvasedpotens]

Anderson is a much more complete player, and has a much better baseline game and mental prowess than Kyrgios. Kyrgios has good touch.

 

[Red Rick]

He´s a servebot.

His baseline game is good for beating down most grinders, but any elite baseliner will **** him where Kokk never touched him.

 

[NoleFam]

He´s a servebot.

His baseline game is good for beating down most grinders, but any elite baseliner will **** him where Kokk never touched him.

But yea I agree. He's pretty much a servebot.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

The only time he isn't Mr Servebotting Snoresville is when he has one of his meltdowns. So not even close to a complete player.

 

[MrFancypants]

Good grief with the “servebot.” At this point the definition of a servebot is anyone who serves better than you.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Poor man's Karlovic.

 

[Red Rick]

Good grief with the “servebot.” At this point the definition of a servebot is anyone who serves better than you.

By that definition

Spoiler

Your momma is probably a servebot

I´m sorry my serve is absolutely terrible.

 

[sredna42]

Is Kyrgios a one-dimensional servebot like Raonic, Anderson, Isner and the likes?

Has Kyrgios a better baseline game, forehand, backhand or return game than the average servebot?

I see him as a servebot with a slightly better than average baseline game, but I also think he is overrated. Everytime he loses, people faults his psychology not his game per se.

Kyrgios is not that good. Even when he is 100% focused he loses to people outside the Big 3, like he did against Dimitrov in AO 2018.

I agree in that his ROS is pretty average. Has probably suffered due to him not caring knowing that he can just blast his way to tie-break victories, or get the odd break here and there due to errors from perceived pressure.

And his baseline game is probably a little over-rated.

But he is definitely not a 1d servebot. he has great touch/feel, is a very good volleyer, and shows a good understanding of court geometry and opponent's positioning.

He really needs a good coach, one that can quell all the background noise he has frazzling his brain, and hone the best in him.

 

[Sudacafan]

Is this a trick question?

As 90% of polls around here.
They serve obscure purposes.

 

[Sport]

shows a good understanding of court geometry .

Yeah, maybe Nick could have been a Professor of Geometry at Harvard.

 

[r2473]

Federer is a servebot too.

 

[Elektra]

A work in progress Pete Sampras. His style is similar to Sampras without the discipline and killer instinct. Kyrgios has all the tools to win a grandslam, he only needs mental toughness and keep himself healthy.

 

[Sport]

A work in progress Pete Sampras. His style is similar to Sampras without the discipline and killer instinct. Kyrgios has all the tools to win a grandslam, he only needs mental toughness and keep himself healthy.

Sarcasm?

 

[tennis_pro]

Not a servebot but the serve is by far his biggest weapon. With the number of hot shots he hit you can't call him that.

He is overrated, though.

 

[True Fanerer]

He could have a better return of serve if only he cared.

 

[Sport]

Not a servebot but the serve is by far his biggest weapon. With the number of hot shots he hit you can't call him that.

He is overrated, though.

So he is not a server because of his tweener shot?

 

[Coric´s Nemesis]

Yes, he is a glorified servebot,i like him a lot, enjoy watching his matches but the story if his limitless talent is a myth.

Sorry to tell you that mate.

 

[tennis_pro]

So he is not a server because of his tweener shot?

He's a server. He's also a returner, a forehand hitter, a lobber, a drop shotter and a tweenerer.

 

[Coric´s Nemesis]

So he is not a server because of his tweener shot?

Kyrgios is the tweenerbot.

 

[Sport]

He's a server. He's also a returner, a forehand hitter, a lobber, a drop shotter and a tweenerer.

A returner? I haven't noticed it yet.

His forehand is good. But other servebots like Raonic also have a great forehand.

His drop shots are crazy and make him lose a lot of points. I remember he tried a lot of drop shots against Nadal in Madrid 2017 and Nadal arrived to every single one of them.

 

[tennis_pro]

A returner? I haven't noticed it yet.

His forehand is good. But other servebots like Raonic also have a great forehand.

His drop shots are crazy and make him lose a lot of points. I remember he tried a lot of drop shots against Nadal in Madrid 2017 and Nadal arrived to every single one of them.

Kyrgios returns serve.

 

[Enga]

I think when youre that tall its difficult to have a fully rounded off game. He has good touch, a strong serve and a good ground game, for sure, but he seems awkward in the forecourt, based on the few matches I watched of him.

 

[Druss]

If he tries a little bit harder he could end up with a Philippoussis-like career. Both similar in some ways, talented with a powerful game but mental midgets. At least Scud did not carry on like an idiot and nuff-nuff, and was more likeable than humpback Nick.

 

[Sport]

If he tries a little bit harder

 

[nolefam_2024]

To me, worse than servebots.

 

[pikku05]

Not at all, he has got a lethal serve plus decent baseline game. He beat Novak twice even when Nole wasn't even playing bad and Nick gives his everything while playing Fedal too. Super talented he is, just doesn't put in enough effort all the time.

 

[wangs78]

Kyrgios is a slightly faster version of Tsonga and has better touch shots. But his mental game is way more erratic.

 

[nolefam_2024]

A returner? I haven't noticed it yet.

His forehand is good. But other servebots like Raonic also have a great forehand.

His drop shots are crazy and make him lose a lot of points. I remember he tried a lot of drop shots against Nadal in Madrid 2017 and Nadal arrived to every single one of them.

Worse than serve bots.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Good grief with the “servebot.” At this point the definition of a servebot is anyone who serves better than you.

32 aces in 2 sets He is not a servebot?

 

[nolefam_2024]

Compared to players like Federer and Nadal he’s a servebot. Compared to players like Isner and Raonic he’s a complete player.

I guess Raonic returns better than him or probably equal and has better forehand than him. Less movement and backhand though.

 

[OddJack]

He is just another Tomic with a little more talent and a little more ambition but not enough to achieve anything serious anyways.

 

[Mr.Lob]

Can't volley. Can't return. Can't manage his game. Good serve and baseline game. Doesn't give a damn if he wins or loses, so good with not choking matches away... against top players.

 

[MrFancypants]

32 aces in 2 sets He is not a servebot?

Everyone who has a serve that is actually a weapon has a thread now proclaiming them a “servebot.” I don’t know why we have invented a derogatory term for people who excel at the most important shot in the game. If you’re not trying to win points with your serve you’re doing it wrong.

 

[Bukowski]

He has exceptional athleticism but I think his ground strokes are held back by a strange BH form and lack of variety off the FH. His volleys are strangely not good compared to his drop shots and other feel his shows around the court.

 

[Sport]

Everyone who has a serve that is actually a weapon has a thread now proclaiming them a “servebot.” I don’t know why we have invented a derogatory term for people who excel at the most important shot in the game.

Nope. Maybe in the 90s in the ultra-fast surfaces, but not today. Look at Djokovic and Nadal. Djokovic has a better serve than Nadal, but none of them have the serve as their biggest weapon. In fact, Nadal's serve is horrible. Ask Anderson, Isner, Cilic, Kyrgios and the likes if they wouldn't like to exchange their serve for Nadal and Djokovic's baseline game.

If you’re not trying to win points with your serve you’re doing it wrong.

Ask Nadal. 17 Grand Slams is sure "doing it wrong". And most of Djokovic's points are not won with the serve.

 

[MrFancypants]

Nope. Maybe in the 90s in the ultra-fast surfaces, but not today. Look at Djokovic and Nadal. Djokovic has a better serve than Nadal, but none of them have the serve as their biggest weapon. In fact, Nadal's serve is horrible. Ask Anderson, Isner, Cilic, Kyrgios and the likes if they wouldn't like to exchange their serve for Nadal and Djokovic's baseline game.



Ask Nadal. 17 Grand Slams is sure "doint it wrong". And most of Djokovic's points are not won with the serve.

This is empirically incorrect

 

[Harry_Wild]

Kyrgios has alway been a head case on the tour! He is more and more a mature head case but still a head case never the less! He starts off great and then in the 3 or 4 match goes haywire!

 

[Deon Sanders]

He is leaning a decent amount towards the servebot side of the scale

But he isnt a total servebot

I am not sure what exactly he is but its never going to be Grade A+ tennis player

 

[reaper]

Can't volley. Can't return. Can't manage his game. Good serve and baseline game. Doesn't give a damn if he wins or loses, so good with not choking matches away... against top players.

I think he's become good at choking this year. His record in tie breaks isn't what it used to be.

 

[AiRFederer]

His biggest problem aside from his head is his movement. It freaking sucks and against any top players, it's going to get exposed in a 5 set match.

 

[Fabresque]

Compared to players like Federer and Nadal he’s a servebot. Compared to players like Isner and Raonic he’s a complete player.

I think you just nailed it in this post, should’ve just put an /thread after it.

 

[Bhagi Katbamna]

His only real weakness is in between his ears. He's got a huge serve, great forehand with which he can hit winners from anywhere, and a dependable backhand. His net game is ok too.

 

[Gazelle]

Lacks the consistent power on the forehand to dictate rallies. His backhand is some weird bunt-shot lacking spin, although the placement is good. Too many holes in his baseline game to be succesful in this baseline era.

All his flaws are so obvious when playing someone like Nishikori. A guy who can return his serve and suddenly he has no prayer. Heck, he can barely break Nishikori's serve himself, and this while the Japanese has one of the most breakable services in the top 50.

 

[FiReFTW]

He has alot of talent but his head is messed up and he doesnt put effort into playing or practice.

 

[accidental]

If you look at the stats on tennisabstract.com you will see he is bottom 10%, often one of the bottom 3 in total, in most return categories out of the entire top 100. I don't see how he can be considered an above average baseline at all. He's completely incapable of playing defence.

If the serve were eliminated completely I honestly don't think he would be in the top 100 at all. The same could be said about a large number of players though.

 

[reaper]

If you look at the stats on tennisabstract.com you will see he is bottom 10%, often one of the bottom 3 in total, in most return categories out of the entire top 100. I don't see how he can be considered an above average baseline at all. He's completely incapable of playing defence.

If the serve were eliminated completely I honestly don't think he would be in the top 100 at all. The same could be said about a large number of players though.

Kyrgios is abysmal off the ground. His forehand slap used to surprise players. Now they look for it and often block it back in to play causing Kyrgios to malfunction. Unless he changes something he's on the way down not the way up.