is Luxilon overrated?

personally, i never used luxilon strings before, i has been all babolat PHT but since many of the pros are using it, is there a reason why that is? or are they just overrated and pros just used it because of sponsorship.

also, why does most pros uses alu power more often than other luxilon strings?
 

downdaline

Professional
Luxilon strings are very specialized, i find. Very stiff, very low powered, very control oriented.

Babolat PHT, while still low powered, offers a little more comfort, a little feel and so on. You wont get these things with luxilon.
 

gerikoh

Semi-Pro
Luxilon strings are very specialized, i find. Very stiff, very low powered, very control oriented.

Babolat PHT, while still low powered, offers a little more comfort, a little feel and so on. You wont get these things with luxilon.

i completely agree! and luxilons are the best to pair in hybrid setups. however using pure luxilon string job is not that good, and makes it overrated
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I think Luxilon strings perform as advertised. The only down side is that they lose tension very quickly, pretty much across the board. Once the tension loss occurs, you might as well cut them out. I now use Pacific Xtreme which IMO has all the benefits of TiMo with a whole lot better feel. And, it doesn't lose tension. Right now, I'm using it as a cross with gut mains. This set up performs really nice. I have one frame in my bag strung with Xtreme straight up in case the playing conditions are damp.
 

Ripper

Hall of Fame
I think Luxilon strings perform as advertised. The only down side is that they lose tension very quickly, pretty much across the board.

That and the price. No reason for them to be so expensive. So, I'd say they're overpriced.
 

YULitle

Hall of Fame
Definetly overpriced. Though, I wasn't aware that there were pros sponsored by Luxilon through Wilson. The North Dallas rep told me that all pros have to pay for their luxilon just like everyone else. This may have changed. Or, maybe they are sponsored but still have to pay (which doesn't really make too much sense.)
 

muredhawks

New User
Definetly overpriced. Though, I wasn't aware that there were pros sponsored by Luxilon through Wilson. The North Dallas rep told me that all pros have to pay for their luxilon just like everyone else. This may have changed. Or, maybe they are sponsored but still have to pay (which doesn't really make too much sense.)

If pros have to pay for their strings, they prob get it very cheap. Kind of weird that they have to pay for their sponsored products...
 

YULitle

Hall of Fame
If pros have to pay for their strings, they prob get it very cheap. Kind of weird that they have to pay for their sponsored products...

Well, that's what I was saying. Maybe they aren't "sponsored" by Luxilon. There are many brands that do not sponsor the athletes that use their product. Now, this may have changed for Luxilon since Wilson bought them out, but at one time Pro's were paying full price for the strings.
 

YULitle

Hall of Fame
I went to their website and it looks like they DO sponsor players now, though it says that it is usually up-and-comers and juniors (weird?) I could find a list though. Anyone got a list of Luxilon SPONSORED players?
 

mista-k

Rookie
overpriced...
luxilon alu
I liked it in a hybrid with nat gut
but it was just hurting my arm and it was dead after a few sets

better strings
CF 1.25mm
Big Ace 1.25mm
MSV hex- my new favorite (1.18mm)
 
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JW10S

Hall of Fame
It might be overrated in that the average recreational player will not get the same benefits that the touring pros get. It's a good string if you take big, fast, full swings with lots of racquet head speed--it's not much good if you don't.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
^that's right. And, when you think about those of us who string our own, the cost isn't as prohibitive. I think a pro shop string job with Prince Synthetic Gut is more expensive than $13, isn't it?
 
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I do not understand the infatuation with Polys. I do not see noticeable additional spin. I am a high end Multi or Natural Gut person; thus the cost of Luxilon does not seem too high when compared to my strings. I just HATE the way it plays as well as all other Polys.

It is harsh on the arm and offers no touch. I am a Serve and Volleyer to all-court player. If was a pure baseline banger... maybe it wold be nirvana.

I heard a girl (probably 3.5 to 4.0) tell the stringer at the local pro shop that a pro recommended Luxilon BB Alu. I thought... geez, why does that pro hate her?
 

Hooooon

Rookie
I do not understand the infatuation with Polys. I do not see noticeable additional spin. I am a high end Multi or Natural Gut person; thus the cost of Luxilon does not seem too high when compared to my strings. I just HATE the way it plays as well as all other Polys.

It is harsh on the arm and offers no touch. I am a Serve and Volleyer to all-court player. If was a pure baseline banger... maybe it wold be nirvana.

I heard a girl (probably 3.5 to 4.0) tell the stringer at the local pro shop that a pro recommended Luxilon BB Alu. I thought... geez, why does that pro hate her?

i've been using polys for 8 years and i agree with you entirely. the problem is that i break multis in 2-3 service games and synguts in 2-3 times that. polys' durability is in a class just below kevlar, and copolys just below. i recently tried and am switching to big ace (yet to try cyberpower). it plays well vs other polys (luxilon orig. plays better but costs/breaks too much for me) and has lasted me @5 hours and still going. i think anyone who is not a CHRONIC stringbreaker is crazy for using poly, as the need to string it at a lower tension costs a lot of feel, not to mention the other benefits of multifilament strings.
 

Hooooon

Rookie
I went to their website and it looks like they DO sponsor players now, though it says that it is usually up-and-comers and juniors (weird?) I could find a list though. Anyone got a list of Luxilon SPONSORED players?

80% of the top 100 atp
 

YULitle

Hall of Fame
That is how many USE it. Not sponsored. There is a difference. Now that Wilson owns Luxilon, there are many players who cannot UE them due to their current sponsors. And there are many more that cannot be SPONSORED by luxilon for the same reason.

USE Luxilon != SPONSORED by Luxilon
 

goosala

Hall of Fame
With the vast selection of polys these days I see no reason to pay that much for a particular brand.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
If pros have to pay for their strings, they prob get it very cheap. Kind of weird that they have to pay for their sponsored products...
But they're not sponsored. Luxilon doesn't sponsor any pros as far as I know. If they did, it's only a handful, like maybe only Federer and a couple of others.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Then why do so many pros have the Luxilon stencil? I would venture to say that those sporting the Lux stencil are sponsored by Luxilon. I certainly don't think they'd give the space away for free.
 

fastdunn

Legend
The most famous luxilon user without sponsorship was Agassi.

I agree Luxilon is great string. They have great crisp feel and grab the balls incrediably.

It just that it could get expensive for non-pros like us since they change feel in a few hours. I don't think pros use 1 set of any string longer than a few hours.

In my case, I play with Luxilon for a few hours and then their feel changes.
Then I avoid it for a while(like few weeks) and come back to it again.
Then I can still play with it resonably well until it breaks.

It's just too trouble some for me to adjust to changes in feel happens during the first few hours with Luxilon.
 
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Hooooon

Rookie
That is how many USE it. Not sponsored. There is a difference. Now that Wilson owns Luxilon, there are many players who cannot UE them due to their current sponsors. And there are many more that cannot be SPONSORED by luxilon for the same reason.

USE Luxilon != SPONSORED by Luxilon

please.... any company, no matter how successful, will gladly give their products to any top 100 (more like top 500) player. maybe only several have contracts, but no top 200 player pays for lux. sponsors dont give a poop what players use, they care what the players say they use.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/LuxilonATP.html
 

LPShanet

Banned
please.... any company, no matter how successful, will gladly give their products to any top 100 (more like top 500) player. maybe only several have contracts, but no top 200 player pays for lux. sponsors dont give a poop what players use, they care what the players say they use.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/LuxilonATP.html

That's only partly true. Surprisingly, players generally supply their own string to the tour stringers, and while they may get some sets free from the company, very few players get all of their strings free unless they're paid endorsers. This is especially true of natural gut, but also somewhat for synthetics (including Luxilon).
 

LPShanet

Banned
Well, that's what I was saying. Maybe they aren't "sponsored" by Luxilon. There are many brands that do not sponsor the athletes that use their product. Now, this may have changed for Luxilon since Wilson bought them out, but at one time Pro's were paying full price for the strings.

For the record, Wilson does NOT own Luxilon...they are simply the distributor for Luxilon in certain parts of the world. This was a partnership that allowed Luxilon to take advantage of Wilson's extensive distribution in the US, and allowed Wilson to sell the top-selling poly on the market.
 

Hooooon

Rookie
That's only partly true. Surprisingly, players generally supply their own string to the tour stringers, and while they may get some sets free from the company, very few players get all of their strings free unless they're paid endorsers. This is especially true of natural gut, but also somewhat for synthetics (including Luxilon).

they all get them free, you obviously don't understand the marketability of an atp player. click the link^^. check out robert yim and travis rettenmaier's careers, they are both great players but you may not agree.
 

tbini87

Hall of Fame
lux is a great string, and it is over priced. i don't know if that makes it "overrated" but you can find similar strings at a fraction of the cost... i don't use it simply because of the price tag.
 

mattyc

Rookie
half my tennis acadmey have deals with luxilon. They get 5 reels a year free then have to pay 45% RRP thereafter. If that is them then i am certain top pros will at least get 7 or 8 reels free at a complete minimum.
 

LPShanet

Banned
they all get them free, you obviously don't understand the marketability of an atp player. click the link^^. check out robert yim and travis rettenmaier's careers, they are both great players but you may not agree.

No, they don't ALL get them free. Only SOME of them do. And some as Matty has said, get a set amount free. Quite a few players who use Luxilon (or Lux hybrids) aren't allowed to take them free due to conflicts with other sponsor agreements. I was an ATP player and am still friendly with a number of tour players. I also interact with a number of the tour's top stringers on a regular basis. Not sure your point about Robert or Travis.
 

Hooooon

Rookie
No, they don't ALL get them free. Only SOME of them do. And some as Matty has said, get a set amount free. Quite a few players who use Luxilon (or Lux hybrids) aren't allowed to take them free due to conflicts with other sponsor agreements. I was an ATP player and am still friendly with a number of tour players. I also interact with a number of the tour's top stringers on a regular basis. Not sure your point about Robert or Travis.

mattyc said 5 free reels/player(/year?) at his academy. @ 1 restring/day that is 3-4 months worth, double that in a hybrid. if yim and rettenmaier are sponsored like that mile long list says they are, they must get atleast that. my point (obviously) is that neither of them even make money on the tour (yim never cracked the top 400), but they are clearly sponsored.
 

LPShanet

Banned
mattyc said 5 free reels/player(/year?) at his academy. @ 1 restring/day that is 3-4 months worth, double that in a hybrid. if yim and rettenmaier are sponsored like that mile long list says they are, they must get atleast that. my point (obviously) is that neither of them even make money on the tour (yim never cracked the top 400), but they are clearly sponsored.

5 reels is roughly 80 string jobs. Most top pros restring each racquet several times per tournament, and have anywhere from 8 to 30 racquets. Do the math. It's a lot of string for a recreational player, but a pro can eat it up very fast. Also, many pros don't like to travel with reels of string, so they pay the tournament stringer or a local distributor (or a friend on tour) to get sets. However, any pro SPONSORED by Luxilon will generally get as much as they need free. However, there are quite a few top pros who use Luxilon and aren't sponsored. Those pros pay full price.

You're right that Luxilon gives away a lot of free string, even to players ranked fairly low down. And anyone listed as SPONSORED gets free string. But that doesn't take away from the fact that there are many pros out there who pay for Luxilon some or all of the time.
 

rabidcow

Semi-Pro
Yes, I think they are overated stick with your PHT. Lux is the best thing ever for about the first 2-3 hours but after that it is one of the harshest polys and looses tension very fast, in my experience
 

LPShanet

Banned
Yes, I think they are overated stick with your PHT. Lux is the best thing ever for about the first 2-3 hours but after that it is one of the harshest polys and looses tension very fast, in my experience

I think the takeaway is that you should try them, and if you don't find them enough better to justify the cost, then they're overrated. If you like them, then spending an extra $2-4 will seem worth it and they won't be overrated to you. That's all that matters.
 
luxilon is not poly. i just tried it and it is by far the most amazing string ever. however it is way too expensive so i'll probably end up using a cheap poly.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
For the record, Wilson does NOT own Luxilon...they are simply the distributor for Luxilon in certain parts of the world. This was a partnership that allowed Luxilon to take advantage of Wilson's extensive distribution in the US, and allowed Wilson to sell the top-selling poly on the market.
That is correct...
 

datsveryinterestin

Professional
I have finally HAD it with Luxilon.
12.50 to 17 dollars for a string that lasts me 2 hours at a good tension, and then is "playable" for one more hitting session, and then is a trampoline for me after that.

I'm mainly talking about Luxilon Original 16.
I have gotten better results with Alu, but I
do like Original better when fresh.

But I have decided to go against the trend and just use
$4 to $7 synthetic gut.

My inexpensive Gosen strings may play less amazing for the first 2 hours, but a week later and they still feel pretty good.
And if break a string or need to restring due to tension loss, it's only $4.

Sorry Luxilon, but until you give me free reels and access to a tournament stringer, I am going for tension maintenance not initial performance.
 
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