Is Medvedev already the best male Russian tennis player of all time?

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  • Medvedev is already the best male Russian tennis player of all time

    Votes: 32 19.5%

  • Kafelnikov is still ahead of Medvedev

    Votes: 62 37.8%

  • Safin is still ahead of Medvedev

    Votes: 116 70.7%

  • Davydenko is still ahead of Medvedev

    Votes: 18 11.0%
  • Total voters
    164
UnforcedTerror said:
Slightly and only for now.

Safin was great on hardcourts but Med is a greater hardcourter and time will prove it.


Hewiit you say? lol. Watch how Med destroyed Djokovic aka the GOAT in a slam final when he was going for the calendar.


Med only needs one slam but he will win many slams and masters it won't even be close when he hangs up his racket.
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Watch how Hewitt destroyed Sampras in a slam final. Djokovic wasn't better than that version of Pete in the most recent USO final.
 
Milanez82 said:
Davydenko isn't part of this comparison, way below the other 3
Medvedev besides winning a slam against a guy going for his 4th in the year also has 2 slam finals vs 2 Goats while Davy failed to reach a single final.
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Med is better than Davy, but Med also wouldn't reach slam finals if he faced Fed in 3 semis and a couple of quarters.
 
NAS said:
I don't think Med is great hc player, I mean he struggles on slow surface.
Didn't like your wording about Hewitt, he was very good indoor player
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A lot of hypocrisy will be exposed from some posters. Hewitt is still a transitional champion even though he destroyed Sampras in a slam final, but Med is a great player even though his win was easier than Hewitt's...

Smh...
 
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NatF said:
The Med overrating is hilarious lol.
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Like I said, Hewitt will still be considered a transitional champ by some, while Medvedev will start being overrated even though his maiden slam win was weaker than Hewitt's. And the worst part is that he'll have a better career than many guys just because he'll play in a very weak era.
 
mike danny said:
Like I said, Hewitt will still be considered a transitional champ by some, while Medvedev will start being overrated even though his maiden slam win was weaker than Hewitt's. And the worst part is that he'll have a better career than many guys just because he'll play in a very weak era.
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Yeah the present narrative is tiresome. For sure Hewitt would have made Djokovic pay for so much S&V lol.
 
James P said:
Is Medvedev already the best male Russian tennis player of all time? If not, whom is better than him still (I picked the obvious three: Kafelnikov, Safin, and Davydenko), and what does he need to do in his career to pass them? I'm not sure, myself, how people feel he stacks up to those three.
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Safin and kafelnikov way ahead
 
abmk said:
LOL wut? Safin routined a much better Sampras than not even top 5 at the USO Djokovic.
Only a Djokovic fanatic can think Med's level in USO 21 final even comes close.
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I wanted Djokovic to win yesterday to see how Djokovic fans explained away the biggest choke in history. We now have the answer. Mededev apparently an ATG! Youbtube is great as some need to watch Kafelnikov and safin!!
 
metsman said:
Medvedev isn't really as talented as Davydenko much less Kafelnikov.
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I mean, he can't compare to their aggressive, on-the-rise ballstriking (mostly speaking of Davydenko here; I'm not as familiar with Kafelnikov), but he has his own talents. His movement for his height is remarkable and I think, compared to either Safin or Davydenko, he has better racquet skills on the full stretch (neither of them relies on those defensive racquet skills as much as they stand much closer to the baseline and play more offensive tennis, but it's still a talent). He's at least as competent as Davy up at net, who, legend has it, actually played a single-handed backhand volley once or twice in his career, and I think he beats Davy in the realm of slicing and mixing up the spin and placement of a shot.

On the whole more talented? Maybe not, but he has his talents. He wouldn't have won what he has if he were just some second-string grinder.
 
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Interesting question.

I would say he’s not there yet. But he is positioned to surge right past the others.

I expect Med to have a monstrous 2022.
 
mike danny said:
Like I said, Hewitt will still be considered a transitional champ by some, while Medvedev will start being overrated even though his maiden slam win was weaker than Hewitt's. And the worst part is that he'll have a better career than many guys just because he'll play in a very weak era.
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Med is positioned well to have a dominating run in the next year or two, picking up slam titles.

But I agree that he will benefit from the weakest era in history. After Djok’s level drops off, his closest challengers will be Zverev and Tsitsipas, and the gap between Med and those guys is wider than ever.
 
? needs more majors and time at #1 to pass both safin and kafelnikov. will probably get there but as of now, i mean...obviously not?
 
He will end up more accomplished than Safin. But better? That's a different matter. I'm fairly sure that not a single one of his wins will approach the quality of Safin's 2 slam wins.
 
Safin >> Kafelnikov > Medvedev >> Davydenko

This is how I currently see it, but Medvedev is all but guaranteed to pass Kafelnikov and very likely Safin too. Medvedev is just such a strong and consistent hardcourt player now that it’s just a matter of time
 
Anybody who is rating Kafelnikov over Med, will they do same with Roddick, just want to know.
Plz some body make this thread and see Med haters explode
 
Booger said:
Are 2150 RPM forehands nothing to you? I guess not much compared to Nadal, but that's more topspin than Agassi ever used.

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2150 RPM is quite flat (relative to the field of course, but that's what matters) in today's game. Agassi modeled his game and designed his strokes according to the technology that was available to him at the time. Sure, there were exceptions like Bruguera or, much earlier, Borg, who could impart enormous amount of topspin on the ball with the gut strings, but the majority was still far behind players of today when it comes to the heaviness of the strokes (FH in particular).
 
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Perhaps lot of old school guys will disagree but now I would put Medvedev ahead of Davydenko, I think it's fair. Safin is still ahead for me because I rate his peak really really high.
 
Omega_7000 said:
TBH Davydenko would be a slam winner in thus era
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1 and a few finals like Med ? Yes but he's not a lock for more than that IMO. Him being clearly a better player than Med is debatable. Some are complaining about Medvedev being overrated and that's fair, but putting him below everything and discredit everything he did is not wiser.
 
Meh safin and kafelnikov were better players. Med isn’t doing anything they wouldn’t do it in this era. So far at least. Probably eventually med will be the greatest but that isn’t saying much right now in this era. Hell I’m sure davydenko could rack up HC titles today too

Medvdev is a very good player but I wouldn’t call him a great player by any sense. And he still needs to do do something off hardcourts too. Med has been very consistent though this year. For sure.
 
duaneeo said:
He would've beaten Nadal in the 2022 AO final. I think he'd also win several USO titles.
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Fair enough, although I think the AO final was not a good performance by Med and he is capable of playing better tennis than that, even though he has only himself to blame for blowing a 2-0 lead.
 
It’s really as simple as win %
Plus med has many years left to compete and several of those sans Rafa and Nole
Med 71%
Kafelnikov 66%
Safin 61%
Davy 59%
Med is definitely the better player but most talented goes to Safin.
 
Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
Meh safin and kafelnikov were better players. Med isn’t doing anything they wouldn’t do it in this era. So far at least. Probably eventually med will be the greatest but that isn’t saying much right now in this era. Hell I’m sure davydenko could rack up HC titles today too

Medvdev is a very good player but I wouldn’t call him a great player by any sense. And he still needs to do do something off hardcourts too. Med has been very consistent though this year. For sure.
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Kafelnikov played in the era without big 3, Safin only caught a little. Medvedev lost 3 slam finals to big 3.
 
neytron said:
Kafelnikov played in the era without big 3, Safin only caught a little. Medvedev lost 3 slam finals to big 3.
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Kafelnikov played in a much deeper more intense 1990s era though and he was actually good on more than one surface unlike Medvedev. And safin beat prime Sampras and peak Federer at the slams . Med just beat winded past his best days djokovic in a slam
 
Fabresque said:
Safin is still probably the best but Medvedev passed the other two I think. Will need one more slam and he’ll pass Safin too, it’s looking good for him.
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I get the dude won one more slam. But he did pretty much nothing past 25 years old. Sorry Med has passed him. If someone is basing careers on one more slam difference that's silly.
 
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