Is my racquet a counterfeit?

NineMileSkid

NineMileSkid

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I just received a new Dunlop Biomimetic 200G racquet bought off a popular online internet auction site.

To test if it was a counterfeit, I checked the following:

• Was the grip wrapped in cellophane with a vibration dampener in the cellophane?
• Is there a sticker on the cellophane indicating the grip size?
• Does the D in the racquet buttcap align with the Dunlop at the top of the racquet, or is one upside down?
• Is there a sticker in the throat indicating the grip size? Is it in the same place as my current racquet?
• Is the green in BIOMIMETIC a different color green than the rest of the racquet?
• Does the green on the raquet change color in the middle? (All green in the middle, green dots outlined in white towards the ends.)
• Were there any mistakes in the racquet specs printed on the frame?
• Is there a racquet information card in the head?
• Is the racquet headlight?
• Is the sting pattern 16X19?

So far, everything looks good to me. Can you think of anything else I can check to make sure the racquet is not a fake?
 
NineMileSkid said:
I just received a new Dunlop Biomimetic 200G racquet bought off a popular online internet auction site.

To test if it was a counterfeit, I checked the following:

• Was the grip wrapped in cellophane with a vibration dampener in the cellophane?
• Is there a sticker on the cellophane indicating the grip size?
• Does the D in the racquet buttcap align with the Dunlop at the top of the racquet, or is one upside down?
• Is there a sticker in the throat indicating the grip size? Is it in the same place as my current racquet?
• Is the green in BIOMIMETIC a different color green than the rest of the racquet?
• Does the green on the raquet change color in the middle? (All green in the middle, green dots outlined in white towards the ends.)
• Were there any mistakes in the racquet specs printed on the frame?
• Is there a racquet information card in the head?
• Is the racquet headlight?
• Is the sting pattern 16X19?

So far, everything looks good to me. Can you think of anything else I can check to make sure the racquet is not a fake?
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Where did you buy it???
 
SteveI said:
Can you post some pics....????

If you got it on the bay.. anything is possible. Was it from private seller or a dealers selling thru the bay?
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I'll take some pics and post tonight.

It was from a private seller with 604 positive feedbacks, 1 neutral, and 0 negatives.
 
And another thing that checked out: the leather grip was the same, light tan color as the legit one I compared it too.

If it is a counterfeit, the cosmetics are superb.
 
did you weigh it on a scale? It should stack up within a gram or two to manufacturer specs.

These days, buying off the bay is always hit and miss, and you're right, some of the counterfeits are almost exact clones often coming from neighbouring factories.
 
Also ask the seller where they got if from and if they have receipts/proof. Tell them you're taking it to a certified pro to get it checked for authenticity. This has elicited the odd confession for me.
 
Why does everyone freak out about their racquets being fake?? The seller had good feedback and if you're having to try this hard to see if it's a fake or not, it probably isn't.

From what you've presented, I say all that's left to do is go hit with it. If it doesn't feel like you're hitting the ball with a miniature broken banjo I think you're good to go.

If you try any harder to solicit fake tests, I may even start to become suspicious, myself, that you are an aspiring Dunlop Racquet counterfeiter! ;)
 
I would say its the real deal. most fakes are usually Wilson or Babolat. Dunlops arent really that popular in the market. prolly not worth making fake dunlaps.
 
The Djoker said:
Why does everyone freak out about their racquets being fake?? The seller had good feedback and if you're having to try this hard to see if it's a fake or not, it probably isn't.

From what you've presented, I say all that's left to do is go hit with it. If it doesn't feel like you're hitting the ball with a miniature broken banjo I think you're good to go.
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^ This. It's just a racket for Chrissakes. I'd like to see TT'ers have a bit of fun with these types of posts and try and freak out those who ask these questions.
 
If you have someone stringing your racquets that does a lot o stringing, ask them. Just had this conversation the other day with my stringer. He said one of the tell tale signs is the grommets. He strings so many racquets that when one comes in with grommets that seem out of alignment it makes it very easy to tell. After stringing a college players APD he had to inform him that all three of his APD's were fiberglass. The kid had no idea and had played with them all season.
 
The Djoker said:
Why does everyone freak out about their racquets being fake?? The seller had good feedback and if you're having to try this hard to see if it's a fake or not, it probably isn't.

From what you've presented, I say all that's left to do is go hit with it. If it doesn't feel like you're hitting the ball with a miniature broken banjo I think you're good to go.

If you try any harder to solicit fake tests, I may even start to become suspicious, myself, that you are an aspiring Dunlop Racquet counterfeiter! ;)
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Not only that, but why would anyone make a fake of a not-so-hot seller???
Most fakes (as someone mentioned) would be from Wilson and Bab hot sellers. Walking around Shanghai markets, I could see yellow Babs, Wilson Azarenka PJ and Federer PJ and Head Speed 300 all over the place...
 
Dunlop are not big enough any more for anyone to be interested in knocking them off, the QC has nose dived since the supermarket has taken over the brand. At my club in South London folks avoid the brand like the plague, it's associated with Chavs and cheap socks.
 
High street sw19 said:
Dunlop are not big enough any more for anyone to be interested in knocking them off, the QC has nose dived since the supermarket has taken over the brand. At my club in South London folks avoid the brand like the plague, it's associated with Chavs and cheap socks.
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Chavs!!!! :shock:

Why is it a chavs racket? I would class Dunlop rackets for players that like a bit of tradition. I can think of other brands that I would associate with being chavvy.....wannabe's rackets.

No offence taken though :)
 
robbo1970 said:
Chavs!!!! :shock:

Why is it a chavs racket? I would class Dunlop rackets for players that like a bit of tradition. I can think of other brands that I would associate with being chavvy.....wannabe's rackets.

No offence taken though :)
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once you were correct but sadly now, with their current owner they certainly hae been placed (along with donnay and slazenger) very much in the bargain basement.Does anyone buy a full price dunlop anymore?
niktub said:
What are the upper class brands?
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Not Dunlop ,slaz and donnay!
ANgell and Bosworth I suppose?
 
Dave M said:
once you were correct but sadly now, with their current owner they certainly hae been placed (along with donnay and slazenger) very much in the bargain basement.Does anyone buy a full price dunlop anymore?


Not Dunlop ,slaz and donnay!
ANgell and Bosworth I suppose?
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Correct sir (about S,D &D), that's what happens when the same fat knob owns all three brands, 6 pack Donnay socks at SD Kingston 99p !! The Belgians must be rolling in their graves. As for the other two brands I have never seen on in the flesh at the club being used by anyone.
 
High street sw19 said:
Dunlop are not big enough any more for anyone to be interested in knocking them off, the QC has nose dived since the supermarket has taken over the brand. At my club in South London folks avoid the brand like the plague, it's associated with Chavs and cheap socks.
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What??

The association is in their petty minds.
 
High street sw19 said:
Correct sir (about S,D &D), that's what happens when the same fat knob owns all three brands, 6 pack Donnay socks at SD Kingston 99p !! The Belgians must be rolling in their graves. As for the other two brands I have never seen on in the flesh at the club being used by anyone.
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I hear what youre saying and agree in part.

The Donnay, Slaz and Dunlop rackets you see in regional SD stores are very much low end UK Walmart equivalents and should not be associated with their same brand counterparts in the TW shop. SD have done the same with Head, Wilson and Babolat.....they have cheap models for sale that I've never heard of. All of those rackets (as does SD) is aiming at a lower end recreational market.

I definately believe that the AG and Bio Dunlop ranges are good quality players rackets, they are just not as commercial in their sponsorship as Babolat, Wilson and Head.

When you read posts about poor quality control, you see a few big names crop up, but rarely Dunlop. I am obviously biased. I have used Dunlop for years and think my current Bio300's are quality sticks.
 
ricki said:
Unfortunately its fake :-(
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I just keep going back and forth on this.

I used a magnifying glass to compare some of the more esoteric fonts on the racquet. The "C" at the end of the Biomimetic has a line through it, just like the real one. And the font's on the BIOMIMETIC on the head are exact matches.

I also checked, and the racquet is headlight, and the weight seems to be spot on.

What concerns me is that on the cellophane wrap over the grip, there are remnants of a sticker that I did not expect to see. It is almost as if the person that sold it to me wants me to beleive he removed a retail sticker from it. Would someone use that type of misdirection if it wasn't a fake?

This is the last time I go through an auction site to get a new racquet. The second after I put my bid in, I knew I was making a mistake.

What kills me is that before I read your post, I actually gave this creep a positive review on the auction site.
 
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NineMileSkid said:
What concerns me is that on the cellophane wrap over the grip, there are remnants of a sticker that I did not expect to see.
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Seller probably paid less for the racquet than he sold it to you for. He took the sticker off.

You are reading way way way too much into this. It isn't a fake. Go hit with it.
 
NineMileSkid said:
I just received a new Dunlop Biomimetic 200G racquet bought off a popular online internet auction site.

To test if it was a counterfeit, I checked the following:

• Was the grip wrapped in cellophane with a vibration dampener in the cellophane?
• Is there a sticker on the cellophane indicating the grip size?
• Does the D in the racquet buttcap align with the Dunlop at the top of the racquet, or is one upside down?
• Is there a sticker in the throat indicating the grip size? Is it in the same place as my current racquet?
• Is the green in BIOMIMETIC a different color green than the rest of the racquet?
• Does the green on the raquet change color in the middle? (All green in the middle, green dots outlined in white towards the ends.)
• Were there any mistakes in the racquet specs printed on the frame?
• Is there a racquet information card in the head?
• Is the racquet headlight?
• Is the sting pattern 16X19?

So far, everything looks good to me. Can you think of anything else I can check to make sure the racquet is not a fake?
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What was the result of your last match using this racket? If you won, it's authentic. If you lost, it's definitely fake.
 
maybe we're all looking at this the wrong way. we should be saying "it's not a fake, its just a pj!"

sorry, couldn't resist.
 
jonestim said:
Seller probably paid less for the racquet than he sold it to you for. He took the sticker off.

You are reading way way way too much into this. It isn't a fake. Go hit with it.
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I paid $110 US--shipped!

I am thinking if it was legit, leave the retail sticker on.
 
gavna said:
Man o man you are reading WAYYYY to much into this......its like you WANT IT to be a fake.

Take to a retailer or ctc Dunlop........if all looks good and the codes work out your fine.....why ask all this stuff here where 99% of the folks are clueless.

Take some pics, call or email Dunlop (easy to find on the Internet) customer service......they will do all to clear this up.
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Like I told someone else, all the pics will "prove" is just how good the counterfeiters are becoming.
 
Everyone in here except one guy says it's real, gives you facts on why, and you still are on the fence?

It's a real racquet...go play tennis. Do you worry this much about everything in life?
 
NineMileSkid said:
I do tend to obsess on things, and I second guess myself a lot.
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Do you still think it's a fake now? If so, maybe you're going through a bad case of buyer's remorse and are disgruntled that you paid way more than the seller paid for it? That you are p*ssed that he paid less for it than you?
 
Put an end to this thread and for $69 more than you paid for your "counterfeit"... go buy one from TW.
 
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Ok, this thread should be closed. . . . . NineMileSkid. Next time, don't be such a cheap fool, instead, go to a reliable retailer. My god. Is that hard to ask for.
 
MAXXply said:
Do you still think it's a fake now? If so, maybe you're going through a bad case of buyer's remorse and are disgruntled that you paid way more than the seller paid for it? That you are p*ssed that he paid less for it than you?
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I don't really care what he paid for it. For all I know, he paid full retail, also determined it was a fake, and dumped it.
 
Andyroo10567 said:
Ok, this thread should be closed. . . . . NineMileSkid. Next time, don't be such a cheap fool, instead, go to a reliable retailer. My god. Is that hard to ask for.
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Trust me. This is the first and last time I do this. It will be all TW all the time for me from now on.

Lesson learned.
 
The plot thickens.

I packed the racquet back up and put everything in my closet. I had too much going on at home and at work, and just didn't want to deal with this anymore.

Anyway, I got it out today and noticed something very strange. It was shipped in what I thought was a plastic shopping bag, But I realized today that the bag was a Head Youtek Graphene bag, with a bar code sticker and all!

I don't know what the heck is going on.
 
High street sw19 said:
Correct sir (about S,D &D), that's what happens when the same fat knob owns all three brands, 6 pack Donnay socks at SD Kingston 99p !! The Belgians must be rolling in their graves. As for the other two brands I have never seen on in the flesh at the club being used by anyone.
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I can get Dunlop socks for next to nothing and they are pretty good.
 
NineMileSkid said:
The plot thickens. I packed the racquet back up and put everything in my closet. I had too much going on at home and at work, and just didn't want to deal with this anymore. Anyway, I got it out today and noticed something very strange. It was shipped in what I thought was a plastic shopping bag, But I realized today that the bag was a Head Youtek Graphene bag, with a bar code sticker and all! I don't know what the heck is going on.
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You are truly certifiable. Did it occur to you that the seller grabbed whatever spare polybag they had lying around (which in this case happened to be a HEAD bag) and was considerate enough to ship your so-called fake racket in it as a measure of basic protection? Racketheads here on TT must have lots of 'em lying around...to ship a racket with a plastic bag of different branding and barcoding is not a sign of fraudulence.
 
robbo1970 said:
I hear what youre saying and agree in part.

The Donnay, Slaz and Dunlop rackets you see in regional SD stores are very much low end UK Walmart equivalents and should not be associated with their same brand counterparts in the TW shop. SD have done the same with Head, Wilson and Babolat.....they have cheap models for sale that I've never heard of. All of those rackets (as does SD) is aiming at a lower end recreational market.

I definately believe that the AG and Bio Dunlop ranges are good quality players rackets, they are just not as commercial in their sponsorship as Babolat, Wilson and Head.

When you read posts about poor quality control, you see a few big names crop up, but rarely Dunlop. I am obviously biased. I have used Dunlop for years and think my current Bio300's are quality sticks.
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There are many quality racquets made by dunlop and slazenger (not found one by donnay though) still avaliable but the problem is when you sell them all for £50 even if it is a discontinued line it hurts the percieved value of a brand.The tennis shops here included never sell a frame a couple of months out for that little.I love the 100 range from dunlop and my fave bag is a dunlop one but if it's on a £20 frame or a £120 the logo is the same and people who aren't that clued up just think cheap SD stuff. (Sadly)
NineMileSkid said:
I do tend to obsess on things, and I second guess myself a lot.
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No, you don't do you?
 
NineMileSkid said:
I can't help but wonder if this guy is also involved in fake Head racquets?
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Yes he almost certainly must be, the weight of evidence you have provided almost puts it beyond any reasonable doubt.But you didn't notice it before you put it in the cupboard did you? Who lives with you or has access to that storage space?Could they be in on it with the seller?:shock:
Hadn't thought of that had you?

In all seriousness, while i have enjoyed reading this thread, you are being a touch paranoid, you have 0 proof that there is any issues with the frame at all, everyone y ou have asked on here has said it is fine, I can't see any photos so you're either mad for subjecting yourself to purchasing something from the 'bay knowing how much you would worry or, a fabulously funny troll.....
 
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