Is Nadal a Top 10 OE player off-clay?

[BGod]

Just like most would agree Sampras ON clay wouldn't even crack Top 20.

How does Nadal compare in just the Open Era away from clay?

3 USO
2 WMBs
1 AO

And of course all his deep runs to Finals and Semis in the above Slams as well as Masters like Canada, Indian Wells, Cincinnati, Miami, etc.

And if he IS Top 10 in your opinion where exactly does he slot?

Having 6 Slams on paper makes it seem a no brainer but I tracked the following guys ahead of him:

Federer, Sampras, Becker, Borg, Djokovic, Connors, McEnroe, Lendl that's 8 with very little argument considering indoor achievements, etc.

So that just leaves 2 spots.

Edberg & Agassi are a strong cases against Nadal but could be argued even.

Wilander off-clay isn't too impressive, I think sufficiently behind. Murray is a very intriguing case, despite obviously 3 less Slams but incredible consistency.

And then there's how you look at Rod Laver in just OE.

 

[Born Again]

Well, considering he had to play his entire career vs Federer and Djokovic at their best, 6 is actually highly impressive.

 

[BGod]

Well, considering he had to play his entire career vs Federer and Djokovic at their best, 6 is actually highly impressive.

Very top heavy but what about lack of depth?

Also Andy Murray had to play against Federer, Novak AND Nadal with 5 Aussie Open Finals. Nadal has his 4 losses with 1 coming against Wawrinka and a Federer coming off knee surgery.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Let see Fed , Novak, Sampras, Borg(with year end championship and wct finals), Connors, Lendl( again yec and wct finals wins) ,Edberg, Becker, Agassi, J mac, and then Rafa.
Biggest drawback is no yec but pro is he lost to HC legends and grass court greats in so many finals and semi
Edit : Now after thinking Rafa >Edberg so he probably make top ten

 

[DSH]

8 Major titles off clay make him top 10 worthy, right?

 

[The Guru]

The fact that Nadal has more slams off clay than Mac and Agassi is wild.

 

[Razer]

Nadal is at 10th in open era big titles off clay, so I would say he narrowly enters the top 10.
Good for him.

Rank	Country	Name	Last Date	Count
1	SRB	Novak Djokovic	16-01-2023	53
2	SUI	Roger Federer	18-03-2019	47
3	USA	John McEnroe	28-02-1989	31
3	USA	Pete Sampras	26-08-2002	31
5	USA	Jimmy Connors	06-02-1984	26
6	USA	Andre Agassi	02-08-2004	25
7	USA	Ivan Lendl	15-01-1990	24
8	GER	Boris Becker	03-12-1996	23
9	AUS	Rod Laver	13-05-1974	21
10	ESP	Rafael Nadal	17-01-2022	19

 

[buscemi]

Majors won off of clay in the Open Era:

1. Djokovic: 20
2. Federer: 19
3. Sampras: 14
4. Nadal: 8
5. Connors: 7
5. McEnroe: 7
5. Agassi: 7
8. Becker: 6
8. Edberg: 6

I'd say he's definitely Top 10.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

Definitely yes.

Lack of YEC is a hole but 8 slams, countless M1000, time at #1 (even if poor compared to Fedole it's good compared to many others), Olympic Gold, etc.

TOP 10 for sure.

 

[NatF]

Yes, below Fed, Djok, Sampras, Agassi, Mac, Connors, Lendl so about 8th, just for the OE and not including partial careers like those of Laver and Rosewall.

 

[TheNachoMan]

He’s only below Djok, Fed, PETE and Agassi imo.

 

[Tennfan123]

He’s 2nd all time at USO and has DCGS. So think about it, bud.

 

[LuckyR]

Majors won off of clay in the Open Era:

1. Djokovic: 20
2. Federer: 19
3. Sampras: 14
4. Nadal: 8
5. Connors: 7
5. McEnroe: 7
5. Agassi: 7
8. Becker: 6
8. Edberg: 6

I'd say he's definitely Top 10.

I think you meant Top 4