kandamrgam
Hall of Fame
You're one of my favourites here. It has grown like that, over time
I especially appreciate your courage, valour, determination. Saying in good vein 
Is Nadal the most underrated Hard Courter of all time
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You're one of my favourites here. It has grown like that, over time
I especially appreciate your courage, valour, determination. Saying in good vein 
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
People underestimates slams vs Masters, 500 etc. Its not that big of a difference in terms of nervosity and ''balls''. The big difference is you play a 5 setter instead of three.
The pressure you put on yourself is the same wherever you go. Yes there is certainly that special feeling about playing in slams but a crowded stadium will always be a crowded stadium, the nervosity is the same.
The pressure you put on yourself is the same wherever you go. Yes there is certainly that special feeling about playing in slams but a crowded stadium will always be a crowded stadium, the nervosity is the same.
torpantennis
Legend
Davydenko is the most underrated player of all time. His record in finals is a stunning 21-7.
NatF
Bionic Poster
He is worse. No shame in being second to the HC GOAT.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I think you should give up on educating people about h2h. You're trying your best, I can see it. The simpletons will go on harping about it. You will only grow bald
Yeah, I guess this makes me stupid, to waste time with people like that.
That is my flaw.
If you argue with idiots they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. So, yeah, I'm the loser here. They just do the best they can, it's not their fault or anything.
torpantennis
Legend
You think he's better than Sampras? Or Agassi?
NatF
Bionic Poster
Second in this era.
sliceroni
Hall of Fame
Nadal lost to Davy in 2010 and 2011.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal accepts that Djokovic is a better h/c player than him and no one is saying Nadal is the best h/c player but he is right up there with the rest of them. The margin is small between the top players on h/c but Nadal is the undisputed King of Clay.
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I think you should give up on educating people about h2h. You're trying your best, I can see it. The simpletons will go on harping about it. You will only grow bald
Right anyone who doesn't fall in line 100 percent with JG's extreme minority and unsusal opinion is a simpleton.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
If Fed is the h/c GOAT then Nadal has an awful lot to be proud of because he leads Fed on h/c:
Hard courts: Nadal, 9–6
Outdoor: Nadal, 8–2
Indoor: Federer, 4–1
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer will always be older than Rafa till the end of time.
We are talking here about HC, why do you bring clay into this?
You're so gay for Djoko
torpantennis
Legend
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
A winner of just one fluke USO is underrated on HCs?
That was three years ago now torpan. Time to let it go.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
People like to pretend that clay doesn't exist. I understand.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Look who is talking.
No it's not that, but check the thread title please.
Me personally, I love clay. It takes away Pete's status compared to Federer cuz of clay.
Clay also makes Fed the ultimate goat. He is dominating four of the five main events, plus he was 2nd on clay his worst event.
Nr.1 in four main events and nr.2 in worse event = the best.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
I was pointing out that Nadal is way ahead of the field on clay but right up there with the rest on h/c. If you say Fed is the 2nd best on clay, that will be a very distant 2nd, I have to say.
In other words, Nadal is so good on clay that he is underestimated on h/c.
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Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Just because I have 2011 in my username doesn't mean I haven't moved on from it. Though I completely understand why you wouldn't want it brought up so often.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Hahahahahaha. Only a figment of your imagination.
winstonplum
Hall of Fame
OP forgets that stupidity and ignorance are the number one and two characteristics of Nadal hating trolls. Laughing balls off is the correct response; actually trying to engage with them in any sort of a substantive discussion is his mistake.
Yeah, Fed and Nole are equals on grass according to h2h.
winstonplum
Hall of Fame
Funny how this response got flown right over. This has got to be wicked painful for the fed kiddies to deal with. "Greatest hard courter ever" has a 6-9 record against his biggest rival.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Hahahaha
H2H is the deciding factor for everything!
/Nadal fans since him becoming pro
Only when it works in your favor, otherwise ignore it.
That is Rafa fan motto. Only evidence that agrees with their premise is the real evidence.
Does this remind you of something? My religion is the only religion that is 100% correct, all other religions are false.
I use the same logic to debunk other religions, but my religion is real so this logic doesn't work for my religion.
We are the keyboard warriors!!!
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
As far as playing against each other is concerned. Neither one dominates the other on any surface.
This is quite impressive since most matches were past Fed's prime.
And also Djokovic dominates Rafa in HC h2h, even when Nadal is his peer.
So, this proves why Federer is the best. He dominated his peers and is stil going toe-to-toe with the next generation.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
If that makes you sleep better, go for it!
It's the truth. How else do you explain that Nole having equal h2h with Federer not reflecting in their achievements?
sliceroni
Hall of Fame
My point? lol You stated above that young Rafa lost to Davy due to not mastering hardcourts at a very young age and early in his career. Just pointing out that Rafa was not young in 2010 and 2011. No specualtion, just straight up facts. In fact wasn't 2010 supposedly Rafa's best year in his career? So Davy beat Rafa during his peak, no?
The great thing is that age matters with Davy and Rafa, but not with Rafa and Federer.
That is classic clayqueen
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clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
The great thing is that age matters with Davy and Rafa, but not with Rafa and Federer.
That is classic clayqueen
It's a case of Rafa dominating Fed in spite of Fed being older and more experienced.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Nicholas Massu, the futures player, who won both Singles and Doubles Gold in Deco turf in 2004 , just retired.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
So I'm still right. Massu is not an active player.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
I meant to say Massu > Rafa, as far as Olympics are concerned.
sliceroni
Hall of Fame
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Nadal is 3rd best hard court player of his era (after Fed/Djoko). And yes he is underrated on hard when those ridiculous threads about Davydenko, Safin, Roddick, you name it, being better than him on hard keep popping up for no good reason.
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Nadal is GOD... i tells ya.. GOD!!!
Must be why you obsessively post about him!
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
D
Deleted member 21996
Guest
right.... you can see right thru me!
It must feel good to finally admit it!
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