Is Nadal's clay dominance is over ?

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This version of Nadal remind me of 2015 Nadal with fH ,movement and lacking in power. Is there anyone who think Rafa is not going to win RG given his form? More I see Rafa struggling on clay more I believe Djokovic is going to win his second Nole slam and prove my prediction right .

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This version of Nadal remind me of 2015 Nadal with fH ,movement and lacking in power. Is there anyone who think Rafa is not going to win RG given his form? More I see Rafa struggling on clay more I believe Djokovic is going to win his second Nole slam and prove my prediction right .

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He still has it in him to win another RG for sure. But yeah, on any given day, I think one of the other top guys, if they are dialed in, will have a decent chance to put him on the defensive and take him down on clay. This wasn't the case 5 years ago when no one, except perhaps an in form Djokovic could do that.
 
#9
Yes, I agree that Nadal is playing really bad, almost like in 2015. But so did Djokovic against Medvedev. In fact, Djokovic also has ressembled 2017 Djokovic in IW, Miami and Montecarlo.

If Thiem raises his level (he lost to Lajovic) and Nadal and DJokovic keep playing like this, the Austrian will have a great chance this RG.
 
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This version of Nadal remind me of 2015 Nadal with fH ,movement and lacking in power. Is there anyone who think Rafa is not going to win RG given his form? More I see Rafa struggling on clay more I believe Djokovic is going to win his second Nole slam and prove my prediction right .

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Djo looked much worse than Nadal lately, but you think he is favored over Nadal right now? I think your predictions are more self serving that really based on facts.
 
#11
People thought same in 2015 and 2016 , he never struggled like this on clay except these two years.
In 2016 Nadal had 5 set points against Djokovic in the second set of their Rome match. Nadal was a bit unlucky in that loss. Had Nadal won that second set, maybe he could have won the match. My point: Nadal was playing better on clay in 2016 than in 2015.
 
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In 2016 Nadal had 5 set points against Djokovic in the second set of their Rome match. Nadal was a bit unlucky in that loss. Had Nadal won that second set, maybe he could have won the match. My point: Nadal was playing better on clay in 2016 than in 2015.
May be better in 2016 but here he looks like Nadal 2015 and if I was a Nadal fan I would be worried about his chances at RG2019
 
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Yes, I agree that Nadal is playing really bad, almost like in 2015. But so did Djokovic against Medvedev. In fact, Djokovic also has ressembled 2017 Djokovic in IW, Miami and Montecarlo.

If Thiem raises his level (he lost to Lajovic) and Nadal and DJokovic keep playing like this, the Austrian will have a great chance this RG.
In 2015 Nadal fH was very poor and had no power in his shots. As far as Djokovic is concerned his priority is slam so we really don't know if Djokovic would bring same performance in slam or not but Nadal needs to do well at masters to win RG.
 
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Djo looked much worse than Nadal lately, but you think he is favored over Nadal right now? I think your predictions are more self serving that really based on facts.
I'm tired of explaining Djokovic performance in ms1000. Didn't you hear Djokovic interview he said slams are his priority and it's working fine for him , he just doesn't want to get burned out before slams by giving all in masters. I'm damn sure he will peak at RG to win second Nole Slams.
 
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It was over in 2015. Yes he won the last 2 RG titles (after 2 years not winning RG) but he still isnt what you call close to dominant on clay anymore. The one to beat by default mostly since there is nobody else, especialy during Djokovic's mid 2016-mid 2018 slump.
 
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He doesnt need to be dominant to win RG but problem is he's well below his best now(2015 level) if he doesn't improve he would not even make final.
It was over in 2015. Yes he won the last 2 RG titles (after 2 years not winning RG) but he still isnt what you call close to dominant on clay anymore. The one to beat by default mostly since there is nobody else, especialy during Djokovic's mid 2016-mid 2018 slump.
 
#32
Djokovic just came up with his "Focus on slams only" excuse for bad play at MC and now it's already the plan which he applied to win last 3 slams ... TTW at its best.
Not really he has not done that good at ms1000 since Wimbledon but he has won last 3 slams , it's clear he's preserving his best for slams. Even before djokovic revealed it's strategy I made it clear where his priorities are. I won't be surprised if he ends up doing double Nole slam or even CYGS . He will win atleast 3 slams this year.
 
#33
Nole fans are very naive. Note says he only cares about slams after he's lost a non Slam match - and you believe him! These guys want to win every tournament. He wouldn't have entered a tournament he didn't want to win.
There was a period when Federer said the same thing, or it was said about him.
In both cases - complete RUBBISH.
It may be that Nole will buck up his ideas and win in RG but his win won't have been due to his not bothering about Masters events.
Also in my humble opinion he had weak opposition in the last 3 slams. The only exception was Nadal amazingly turned up at the Wimbledon semi final.
 
#34
Still in denial when Djokovic has won 3 slams in row and his strategy of peaking for slam is working fine for him. Funny how you guys are still denying what is obvious.
There is exactly zero evidence that proves this. Djokovic did care about the Masters until the AO and only started losing a lot afterwards. This myth is going to be busted soon.
 
#36
Not really he has not done that good at ms1000 since Wimbledon but he has won last 3 slams , it's clear he's preserving his best for slams. Even before djokovic revealed it's strategy I made it clear where his priorities are. I won't be surprised if he ends up doing double Nole slam or even CYGS . He will win atleast 3 slams this year.
You are the funniest troll on TTW. Period.
 
#37
Djokovic won Cincinnati and Paris, he wasn't applying the strategy of losing early in Masters 1000 before the US Open. After the Australian Open is when he has started to lose earlier.
Djokovic was too burned out at wtf and won only 1 masters before us open .he's at the sathe where he can't give his best at masters , also ms1000 results are no indicator of a players performance in slams. If that was the case Murray would've won many slam matches against Fed and Zverev would be doing fine I'm slams. Slams are different ball game where only giants triumph and Djokovic is the biggest giant in history of tennis. When he's at his best noone stands a chance .
 
#39
There is exactly zero evidence that proves this. Djokovic did care about the Masters until the AO and only started losing a lot afterwards. This myth is going to be busted soon.
Ms 1000 performance and slam performance has very little relevance .earlier Djokovic was sweeping ms 1000 left and right but was unable to do same at slams . Now he has changed his strategy and started peaking for slams. Even he has accepted it in his recent interview.
 
#42
Nole fans are very naive. Note says he only cares about slams after he's lost a non Slam match - and you believe him! These guys want to win every tournament. He wouldn't have entered a tournament he didn't want to win.
There was a period when Federer said the same thing, or it was said about him.
In both cases - complete RUBBISH.
It may be that Nole will buck up his ideas and win in RG but his win won't have been due to his not bothering about Masters events.
Also in my humble opinion he had weak opposition in the last 3 slams. The only exception was Nadal amazingly turned up at the Wimbledon semi final.
We have been saying same things even before Nole finally revealed his plan, he's almost 32 and can't afford to burned out by giving his all in every tournament he enters in to.
 
#43
Ms 1000 performance and slam performance has very little relevance .earlier Djokovic was sweeping ms 1000 left and right but was unable to do same at slams . Now he has changed his strategy and started peaking for slams.
What I see is:
finals in Queen's, Wimbledon
victory in Cincinnati, US Open
victory in Shanghai, finals in Paris, WTF, AO
suckage

unless Djokovic does really well at the FO there is no correlation that you speak of. He played well in pretty much every event until the AO.
Even he has accepted it in his recent interview.
Nobody cares what they have to say about. Federer said he was at his peak when he was 35, gimme a break.
 
#44
What I see is:
finals in Queen's, Wimbledon
victory in Cincinnati, US Open
victory in Shanghai, finals in Paris, WTF, AO
suckage

unless Djokovic does really well at the FO there is no correlation that you speak of

Nobody cares what they say. Federer said he was at his peak when he was 35, gimme a break.
Earlier Djokovic would sweep all ms but it had no correlation to his performances in slams. Now he's doing just reverse. Djonovic2.0 version would have won all ms 1000 and wtf and be inconsistent in slams .I don't see any correlation . When you're going to believe it?when he wins cygs? Lemme tell you he's going to win atleast 3 slams this year. New us open is like old ao open,too slow and Djokovic is almost unbeatable there. If he wins french then I advise you to put your all money on him doing cygs.
 
#47
AO.

Nobody cares what they have to say about. Federer said he was at his peak when he was 35, gimme a break.[/QUOTE]


Here result speaks for himself .you are not being objective if you're denying the fact.
 
#49
It was over in 2015. Yes he won the last 2 RG titles (after 2 years not winning RG) but he still isnt what you call close to dominant on clay anymore. The one to beat by default mostly since there is nobody else, especialy during Djokovic's mid 2016-mid 2018 slump.
In 2017 he was very dominant and smoked sn in form red-hot Wawarinka
 
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