Is NBC embargoing the Federer/Wawrinka match?

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
So I wake up extra early at 6:00am PST on a holiday Sunday (which I never do) just to watch the Federer/Warwrika match, and flick on the Tennis Channel only to find a women's match? What the heck is this? The Federer match is happening right now on center court but TTC is not showing it at all? Is this just NBC up to their old tricks again? Preventing TTC from showing it live so that they can show it on tape later after everyone already knows the result? And even worse, it looks like NBC is blocking the live streaming of the Federer match on the TTC website and also ESPN3 as well. :(

NBC really needs to get out of the tennis broadcasting business! :-?
 

kanamit

Hall of Fame
So I wake up extra early at 6:00am PST on a holiday Sunday (which I never do) just to watch the Federer/Warwrika match, and flick on the Tennis Channel only to find a women's match? What the heck is this? The Federer match is happening right now on center court but TTC is not showing it at all? Is this just NBC up to their old tricks again? Preventing TTC from showing it live so that they can show it on tape later after everyone already knows the result? And even worse, it looks like NBC is blocking the live streaming of the Federer match on the TTC website and also ESPN3 as well. :(

NBC really needs to get out of the tennis broadcasting business! :-?

No idea. It's not like I'll be watching. Why reward them and their sponsors for their stupidity?
 

Rorsach

Hall of Fame
Ah well, neither Nederland 1 (Dutch state sponsored tele) nor Eurosport are showing the Federer-Wawrinka match. Both have changed over to the Giro Italia.
:(
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
So for the last hour or so, Tennis Channel has been showing the Williams sisters doubles match instead of the Federer/Warwrika match. Whopppieeee....waking up early and losing sleep to watch a Williams sisters doubles match on a holiday weekend is what I live for. Not!!! :???:
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
So for the last hour or so, Tennis Channel has been showing the Williams sisters doubles match instead of the Federer/Warwrika match. Whopppieeee....waking up early and losing sleep to watch a Williams sisters doubles match on a holiday weekend is what I live for. Not!!! :???:

Or even Soderling/Cilic.

They can show that, and instead we have to watch the Williams roll another hapless opponent.

I don't mind watching dubs, but come on, at least put a match on.

J
 
was surprised that they ain't showing the match, in 10 minutes maybe they will start coverage but the fed match is over already, really sucks to be a tennis fan in the usa, coverage is pathetic, especially if you don't have the tennis channel, and there is only so much you can do with online streaming
 

Fedace

Banned
So I wake up extra early at 6:00am PST on a holiday Sunday (which I never do) just to watch the Federer/Warwrika match, and flick on the Tennis Channel only to find a women's match? What the heck is this? The Federer match is happening right now on center court but TTC is not showing it at all? Is this just NBC up to their old tricks again? Preventing TTC from showing it live so that they can show it on tape later after everyone already knows the result? And even worse, it looks like NBC is blocking the live streaming of the Federer match on the TTC website and also ESPN3 as well. :(

NBC really needs to get out of the tennis broadcasting business! :-?

Contract. NBC has sole rights to the BEST match of the day. Noone may show it til NBC is done with it.
 

WBF

Hall of Fame
was surprised that they ain't showing the match, in 10 minutes maybe they will start coverage but the fed match is over already, really sucks to be a tennis fan in the usa, coverage is pathetic, especially if you don't have the tennis channel, and there is only so much you can do with online streaming

Yup. I doubt they will show live when they can show the Venus match or Federer match.

This is frustrating.
 

WBF

Hall of Fame
Jesus Christ.

Federer match AND Williams match AND Henin match.

Unbelievable. I'm not supporting this bull, off to do errands.
 

zak425

Semi-Pro
Yea it just came on here in Cincy, its showing the completion of Henin and Sharapova, then Venus, then Roger???
 

fedfan08

Professional
Contract. NBC has sole rights to the BEST match of the day. Noone may show it til NBC is done with it.
OK we need to beat up the slams then. If it's in the contract then NBC could care less how many people ***** about their coverage.
 

fedfan08

Professional
stupid NBC showing Henin/Sharapova match eventhough TTC already showed it. Is that just because they don't want to show Venus getting beat?
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Watch every big match on the internet free.
NBC has embargoed Internet live streaming also for the entire weekend. I tried to watch matches both yesterday and today on both tennischannel.com and ESPN3.com and both were blacked out for the weekend, even though they both had live matches on multiple courts during the week. :???:
 

fedfan08

Professional
I love it when people trot out the live stream option - usually crappy streams from sites full of maleware/spyware. There's a difference between an internet stream (even one they call HD) and watching in HD on TV. A big difference, like actually being able to see the ball.
 

kanamit

Hall of Fame
I love it when people trot out the live stream option - usually crappy streams from sites full of maleware/spyware. There's a difference between an internet stream (even one they call HD) and watching in HD on TV. A big difference, like actually being able to see the ball.

I'd rather sit through hours of fuzzy live pictures of a green dot flying across a poorly defined clay court than listen to five minutes of Mary Jo Fernandez and John Macenroe chitchatting through tape-delayed points.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
It was even worse than described: NBC started showing tennis - after about 15 minutes of 'sports update' of things that happened over 12 hrs ago (Halladay perfecto - go Phils!) and JMac and Crazy Mary talking up the 3rd set of Henin - Sharapova. Then they start showing ONE GAME, commercials, ONE GAME, commercials,... I just went to the internet and found out who won the matches and schedule a court for this afternoon.

NBC certainly set the bar low for ESPN's coverage to fall over Mon through Thurs...
 

edberg505

Legend
What the hell? So NBC decides to air 1/3 of the Federer match tape delayed? This has got to be a joke. We already get screwed with the tape delay and then they don't even show the whole match! This is horse ****. I hope these clowns lose their rights soon!
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
I hope these clowns lose their rights soon!
They won't - high bidder wins. And I would be shocked if there is any language in the contract about quality of their delivery - how they use tape delay, # of commercials, etc... The French would laugh if they heard US tennis fans were getting substandard coverage. As long as the NBC check doesn't bounce, they don't care.
 

kanamit

Hall of Fame
They won't - high bidder wins. And I would be shocked if there is any language in the contract about quality of their delivery - how they use tape delay, # of commercials, etc... The French would laugh if they heard US tennis fans were getting substandard coverage. As long as the NBC check doesn't bounce, they don't care.

NBC will continue to bid highest only if it thinks it will continue to generate a profit through sponsorship. It will continue to generate a profit through commercial sponsorship only if advertisers see impressive ratings. Advertisers will not see impressive ratings if people stop watching the crappy coverage.
 

Fedace

Banned
NBC has embargoed Internet live streaming also for the entire weekend. I tried to watch matches both yesterday and today on both tennischannel.com and ESPN3.com and both were blacked out for the weekend, even though they both had live matches on multiple courts during the week. :???:

Wrong my friend. I watched Federer-Warinka LIVE on channelsurfing. and feed was from livebets.com or something like that...
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Wrong my friend. I watched Federer-Warinka LIVE on channelsurfing. and feed was from livebets.com or something like that...
Apparently NBC can only block U.S.-based websites that do live streaming. The live streaming on tennischannel.com is actually of pretty good quality. Some of the international live streaming web sites I've seen have pretty poor quality. I try not to even watch those because I can't even see the ball.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
What the hell? So NBC decides to air 1/3 of the Federer match tape delayed? This has got to be a joke. We already get screwed with the tape delay and then they don't even show the whole match! This is horse ****. I hope these clowns lose their rights soon!
Yup, NBC didn't show the entire Federer/Warwrinka match just so they can save time in their broadcast window for.........drum roll, please..........yup, you've guessed it - WILLIAMS SISTERS DOUBLES!!!!!!!!!! Which was JUST already shown on Tennis Channel live! Arghh......... :evil:
 

Fee

Legend
I'd like to welcome all the new members of this forum who have posted in this thread...

Seriously, ALL of you know this already, it has been happening for years and we get threads like this every time. NBC comes in on the weekend for RG and Wimbledon every year and screws up the coverage. They got away with it for decades until about oh 1997 when the internet started to get really popular and someone started posting tennis scores.

It's even dumber now because of live streaming and live scoreboards, but NBC will continue to do this for one reason: they are a Network channel, not a cable channel, they are still FREE over the air to anyone with a TV and a digital antenna. Households like that don't always have the latest technology, high speed internet, the best phones, etc, so NBC can continue to program to what some might call 'the bottom 30%' while the rest of get on internet tennis forums and complain until our fingers bleed.

They are also catering to the dreaded 'casual sports fan' who is channel surfing and not invested enough (like us) to know what's really going on in Paris. Yes, it sucks but until we find a way to rise up and get noisy about it, it will continue to be this way. This is the same network that screwed up a Winter Olympics HELD IN NORTH AMERICA, so is anyone really surprised?
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Can it be true? Ted Robinson just announced that NBC will be back on-air this Friday for the men's semis "live at 11:00am Eastern time". He didn't say - "at 10:00am in all time zones", as usual in the past. Does this really mean that they will pre-empt the Today Show on the west coast and actually broadcast live at 8:00am PST? No more blackouts on ESPN and on TTC from 8-11am PST (because it's 11:00am EST and NBC is on-air in the east) and then again from 11:00am-2:00pm PST (Because it's 11:00 am PST and NBC is on-air in the west)?
 

Chadwixx

Banned
I dont even watch tennis on tv anymore. They finally show a good match and it gets drownd out with their idiot commentators.
 

Fee

Legend
Can it be true? Ted Robinson just announced that NBC will be back on-air this Friday for the men's semis "live at 11:00am Eastern time". He didn't say - "at 10:00am in all time zones", as usual in the past. Does this really mean that they will pre-empt the Today Show on the west coast and actually broadcast live at 8:00am PST? No more blackouts on ESPN and on TTC from 8-11am PST (because it's 11:00am EST and NBC is on-air in the east) and then again from 11:00am-2:00pm PST (Because it's 11:00 am PST and NBC is on-air in the west)?

Nope, according to Zap2it.com, NBC-LA will have tennis on from 11 am to 2 pm.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Nope, according to Zap2it.com, NBC-LA will have tennis on from 11 am to 2 pm.
Drats! That means NO coverage at all on ANY channel (ESPN nor TTC) from 8am all the way to 2pm PST (6 hour blackout!) on Friday except on NBC (but only for 3 hours) for us poor west coast viewers AGAIN!!! :( Which means we'll miss one of the two men's semis AGAIN, just like last year! :neutral:
 

vbranis

Professional
Drats! That means NO coverage at all on ANY channel (ESPN nor TTC) from 8am all the way to 2pm PST (6 hour blackout!) on Friday except on NBC (but only for 3 hours) for us poor west coast viewers AGAIN!!! :( Which means we'll miss one of the two men's semis AGAIN, just like last year! :neutral:

Absolutely ridiculous, every West Coaster should boycott and not even watch. I'll just try to find a decent quality live stream somewhere!:-x
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Absolutely ridiculous, every West Coaster should boycott and not even watch. I'll just try to find a decent quality live stream somewhere!:-x
From what I can tell, all the good quality live streams are also blacked-out whenever NBC is on the air in any time zone. If it wasn't so laughable, I'd cry. :cry:
 

HookEmJeff

Semi-Pro
The worst part for TTC is they show the same three hours of coverage over and over in their 'French Open tonight' show. I saw nothing of Ginepri-Ferrero, nothing of Wozniacki-Pennetta today, but I'm sitting here watching this ridiculous Williams doubles blowout (for about 1 more minute because errands are calling!!!). Show some different matches ---not the same one or two all damn day.

Honestly, I'd rather TTC just show Daniel Dotzenrod sitting out by the pool in a bikini, but it appears they see value in showing a boring Williams doubles match over two no-names.

Note to all broadcasters: WE DO NOT WANT TO WATCH WILLIAMS SISTERS DOUBLES!



Jeff
 

OKUSA

Hall of Fame
i like french open tonight, the interviews they had with the players were nice. too bad you have to watch 45 minutes of some match of a top player steam rolling to watch them
 

Lucinda

New User
I prefer the obscure foreign live streams to NBC. I get to watch tennis and work on learning a new language at the same time.
 

OKUSA

Hall of Fame
I prefer the obscure foreign live streams to NBC. I get to watch tennis and work on learning a new language at the same time.

But with NBC you get Carillo, who speaks a subset of the English language which is, "How to talk like an idiot, and get paid thousands"
 

ODYSSEY Mk.4

Professional
They have about 3 weeks of nice weather a year. They deserve something...

As I said in another thread, we need to go at the advertisers. I'm going to compile a list and try to find emails - will open a new thread.

so true...still wouldn't trade my sunshine for tennis coverage
 

fedfan08

Professional
Anyone know why TTC chose to re-air WS doubles when they didn't show one point of Soderling/Cilic or Murray Berdych?!? They could have used French Open Tonight to show the stuff that wasn't shown during the day.

Oh and spare me all this bs about catering to the casual fan. The casual fan isn't watching tennis at 11 AM on Memorial weekend. The people watching are die-hards. The casual fans maybe tune into the last half hour of the finals. ESPN and TTC need to do whatever possible to pull 1st weekend and 2nd week coverage fromo NBC. Let NBC have the finals, but nothing else.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Anyone know why TTC chose to re-air WS doubles when they didn't show one point of Soderling/Cilic or Murray Berdych?!? They could have used French Open Tonight to show the stuff that wasn't shown during the day.

Oh and spare me all this bs about catering to the casual fan. The casual fan isn't watching tennis at 11 AM on Memorial weekend. The people watching are die-hards. The casual fans maybe tune into the last half hour of the finals. ESPN and TTC need to do whatever possible to pull 1st weekend and 2nd week coverage fromo NBC. Let NBC have the finals, but nothing else.

The Williams probably draw more $$ from the sponsors. I can't really say that definitively but I would hazard a pretty decent wager that that is the main reason. As for pulling coverage from NBC...good luck, NBC bids huge, ESPN cares more about Basketball, Baseball and Hockey this time of year so I don't see them really spending a lot of money on tennis (at least enough to outbid NBC or they probably would have done so by now), and I really don't think TTC has the dough to outbid NBC.
 
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