Is QEII now the G.O.A.T (Greatest Of All Time)?
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TimHenmanATG
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Incestuous?
"Why don't you get off your ass and get me a COKE!"
--Tim Henman as barked to a ball boy on a changeover, during his annual Wimbledon meltdown, 2005.
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I'm not defending incest. I was stating that our current conceptualisation of it doesn't mesh with our species in its "natural" state.
I also highly doubt that that was a genuine quote from Tim GOATman.
An educated and cultured British gent, such as our Timbo, wouldn't have used crass and Americanised vulgarisms, such as "ass". He would have opted for the far more elegant and sophisticated term: "arse".
TimHenmanATG
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I'm talking in a more meaningful sense.
If the UK - or one of the Commonwealth realms which she is reigns over - became a republic, then any kind of political "power" would just be transferred to a president.
Her political influence is pretty much the same as any Head of State in other countries with a figurehead ruler.
Bartelby
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The Queen has real power unconstrained by explicit Constitutional law.
Her G-G in Australia communicated with her office directly about throwing the elected PM out of office and she concurred.
The Queen holds sovereign power. She is no mere figurehead. It's just that it's not often used and never publicly, but it happens more than you think.
Her G-G in Australia communicated with her office directly about throwing the elected PM out of office and she concurred.
The Queen holds sovereign power. She is no mere figurehead. It's just that it's not often used and never publicly, but it happens more than you think.
TimHenmanATG
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What incident are you referring to, here?
Bartelby
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TimHenmanATG
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I've wiki-researched this, and I can only assume that you're talking about the Australian PM in 1972, William McMahon.
I can't find any kind of evidence which suggests that he was removed because of external input from QEII or the Australian Governor General.
In fact, it looks like he got ousted the traditional way - at the polling booths.
Bartelby
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TimHenmanATG
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Once again, Her GOATjesty.
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TheNachoMan
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The British and their worship of rich “royals” who don’t even know nor care they exist 
I guess the same could be said about athletes but eh, Liz hasn’t scored a three point buzzer beater or scored a goal in the 90th minute.
I guess the same could be said about athletes but eh, Liz hasn’t scored a three point buzzer beater or scored a goal in the 90th minute.
The fact that Prince Charles is so much less popular with the British public than both his mother / predecessor and his son and successor William, must really rankle him.
No-wonder he has talked up a ‘slimmed down monarchy’ for a long time, to try and win favour with people. I would imagine that most people in the UK (who care one way or another about the issue) are in favour of retaining the monarchy, but also don’t want ‘minor royals’ to receive public funding and want the number that do to be kept to a minimum.
No-wonder he has talked up a ‘slimmed down monarchy’ for a long time, to try and win favour with people. I would imagine that most people in the UK (who care one way or another about the issue) are in favour of retaining the monarchy, but also don’t want ‘minor royals’ to receive public funding and want the number that do to be kept to a minimum.
Bartelby
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I don't think Charles cares a jot about his relative lack of popularity as he prefers to keep in the background cultivating his garden.
Slimming down the monarchy also means slimming down the cost of it that is borne by the family itself. I wouldn't think that he's asking the state to cut his public funds!
Slimming down the monarchy also means slimming down the cost of it that is borne by the family itself. I wouldn't think that he's asking the state to cut his public funds!
TimHenmanATG
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Not quite. She needs to remain alive and on the throne for another 3.5 years;
List of longest-reigning monarchs - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
According to this list, she is now currently only 134 days shy of equalling the reign of the former Prince of Liechtenstein.
So it'll be the 9th of May 2022 when Her GOATjesty eclipses Johann II. And from then it'll only be a further 35 days (13/06/22) to surpass Raim IX of Thailand.
"God save our gracious Queen, long live our noble Queen, God save our Queen.
Send her victooooorious, happy and glooooorious, long to-o re-ign ooooover us, Go-od save the Queen!"
PrinceMoron
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HR does not like tennis
Grass is for horses
Grass is for horses
TimHenmanATG
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TimHenmanATG
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TimHenmanATG
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Her GOATjesty just needs to prevail over the next couple of months.
After that, there's just some random French dude which she needs to surpass.
After that, there's just some random French dude which she needs to surpass.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
Under her watch the royals have moved steadily towards irrelevance if not disgrace, with Edward cavorting with pedophiles, Charles carrying on with his mistress and driving the mother of his children away, and Harry merely deciding he's had enough of this Disney-style tourist attraction.
Enceladus
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Longer reign than Elizabeth II had more rulers in the history of mankind, just the accuracy of the days is not known. I have written here before that the ancient Korean king Jangsu ruled for 78 years, in the years 413-491, which is historically verified. We know that he ruled for approx 78 years, but we don't know if it was 78 years and 2 months or 78 years and 8 months, etc. Such detailed records were not kept or preserved. It is not right to ignore long-live ancient and medieval rulers because of this. In order, Elizabeth II she surely overcame Jangsu, she would have to rule 79 years, by 2031, which is unrealistic given her age, she would be almost 105 years old in that year. And even that might not be enough. King Minhti of Arakan (now part of Myanmar) allegedly ruled for 95 years between 1279 and 1374. We possible will never know for sure who was the longest reigning sovereign monarch in history, but it is certainly not Louis XIV.
Bartelby
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Bad behaviour is part of the lifestyle. And it's pretty tame all things considered. The real problem lies elsewhere.
Mainad
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Louis XIV's reign is the longest to be fully documented and verified. There is uncertainty about any others who are supposed to have reigned longer.
Enceladus
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According to what documented and verified? The answer is that according to the Gregorian calendar, generally according to the Christian calendar. But antiquity and much of the world in the Middle Ages didn't know the Christian calendar and its format. So celebrating Louis XIV (and maybe in the future Elizabeth II) as the longest reigning ruler in history is stupid and wrong, when we know that some ancient and medieval rulers ruled even longer.
Mainad
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But are all sources, medieval and modern, in complete agreement that some monarchs elsewhere definitely reigned for longer?
Mainad
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Bad Tim! The ballboy in question would have been perfectly within his rights to shout back, "Why don't you get off YOUR arse and get it yourself?" Ballkids are there to pick up balls, not run around pandering to the whims of pampered players. Tim should have known better or at least asked politely!!!
TimHenmanATG
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Bad Tim! The ballboy in question would have been perfectly within his rights to shout back, "Why don't you get off YOUR arse and get it yourself?" Ballkids are there to pick up balls, not run around pandering to the whims of pampered players. Tim should have known better or at least asked politely!!!
One of the few positives of Covid is that people are becoming increasingly aware of hygiene protocol, which we would have otherwise taken for granted.
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TheNachoMan
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Monarchy should disband after Lizzie dies. She’s the only one who people somewhat like. It’s an outdated and elitist institution anyway.
Bhagi Katbamna
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Germany succeeded in invading and ruling England a long time ago.
3loudboys
G.O.A.T.
QEII has done a great job as head of state but - as @TheNachoMan says - time for an outdated monarchy to be retired.
Andrew is not just wrong, he’s stupid wrong. No mother could have foreseen that and feel for her - the shame and embarrassment.
Andrew is not just wrong, he’s stupid wrong. No mother could have foreseen that and feel for her - the shame and embarrassment.
Sudacafan
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That’s even worse.
Larry Duff
Legend
At least she stayed alive until the cheque cleared
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