Is Rafas 2022 AO down 2 sets, 2-3 and 0-40 the greatest comeback in slam final history?
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SpinWizard
Semi-Pro
Yes, it is.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
I'd argue it needs to be an ATG vs ATG, but that one was quite impressive.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic vs Fraud in 2011 USO SF comes to mind, although not a final.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Yes, this is the one I thought of first.
McEnroe at his absolute peak, against a guy who lost four slam finals in a row, comes back from 0-2 to beat McEnroe who had not lost a single match that year up to that point.
Also the 2004 French Open final would be a contender: Coria won the first two sets, 6-0, 6-3. Then, he was up 4-4, 40-0 in the third set. Gaudio eventually took sets 3-4. Coria then had 2 match points in set 5 before Gaudio came back to win.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Coria had no business losing that match. SMH.
messiahrobins
Legend
It was 2 sets all though. Or are u saying for goats being 0-2 v Medvedev and his era is in real terms 2 sets all and a break up...which maybe has some traction to be honest
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Exactly
When you're playing a GOAT you will find a reason to choke, one point can tilt the whole match let alone a decisive game.
Being 1-3 to Rafa in the 5th of a Slam Final is curtains for anyone, and I'm sure everyone watching was like "ok well that's the end of that"
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
Gaudio?
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
djokovic the conqueror
Professional
No. Djokovic's comeback against Tsitsipas at the French Open in 2021 is vastly superior. Plus, he beat Nadal the previous round and did not rely on corrupt government officials banning someone from competing.
The 2022 AO is an asterisked slam and doesn't count. Djokovic was unfairly and unjustly banned simply because he refused to take a dumb placebo vaccine. Nadal would've never won the AO that year had Djokovic been allowed to play.
The 2022 AO is an asterisked slam and doesn't count. Djokovic was unfairly and unjustly banned simply because he refused to take a dumb placebo vaccine. Nadal would've never won the AO that year had Djokovic been allowed to play.
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
No argument from me that both Coria and Medvedev screwed up. Not easy to think of many such big deficits being overturned in Slam finals so I'm just throwing nominations out there...
it is a 100% legit slam win. if anything, wimby 2022 is asterix, and i say it as a djokovic fan and nadal disliker. so thats why uso 2023 win was so important, because even without wim 2022 he has one more slam than nadal.
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messiahrobins
Legend
Funnily enough i thought Federer would win, i felt the whole match he was the better player technically but Rafa was just scrapping like a warrior but i remember thinking if Roger hits a purple patch he will turn it round and lo and behold he did.
Daniel Andrade
Hall of Fame
I disagree, since Federer was clearly playing better so far.
In the Ned vs Med match, Med was playing better than Ned (up to that moment)
Service Ace
Hall of Fame
No vote for Wimbledon 2019? The false goat / imposter best grass player ever can’t close out a match with 2 match points on his serve to secure his legacy, becoming only the 2nd male player in the Open Era to choke away championship points in a slam final.
Djokovic 4-2, 30-15 down, 5th set, to Nadal at '12 AO!
Djokovic against Federer '19 WB, fifth set, 8-7, 40-15 down!
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Rafa24
Hall of Fame
and this wasn't even down 2-3 0-40Yes, it is.
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
I don't think it was. It always felt like fed was going to win that match for some reason. only down a break isn't nearly as bad as down 2 sets and 0-40.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I never thought Med was winning that match so it cant be. Fed felt done, but he also did not wait to the last second.
AO 17 was a dream come true. I did not sleep for like 24 hours.
victorcruz
Hall of Fame
Djo was outplaying him and so was Fed in the 2017 AO Final, if anything I thought the comebacks were coming even if I was rooting against it.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
More impressive than this year’s AO F, Nadal actually fought back to win while AO 24, Med just folded like a cheap tent.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Nadal was fighting for his life it was epic af lol
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I wrote him off as soon as he lost the 4th set.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
It was incredible. We do not get those matches anymore. AO17, this one, WC 19... they just did incredible things.
Sinner will win tomorrow, but he isn't going to do anything crazy. Neither has Carlos.
They just did epic things that was pure fireworks. Nothing feels like this cause it ain't.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
The fact that Medvedev went through that same choke up 2 sets to love in the Aus Open final 2 years later against Sinner is just insane to me.
To happen once is awful but twice in such a short space? Devastating.
To happen once is awful but twice in such a short space? Devastating.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
The ups and downs and agony was what made that match so incredible to me. That and the wait since his last one and injury and being against Rafa... I mean I can go on forever. I might just watch that 5th set tonight.
duaneeo
Legend
What reason I wonder. Federer hadn't beaten Nadal at a slam since 2007.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Whole tournament was clutch from him.
Heck, his whole first half of 2022. The Felix match at RG and against Djokovic being down a break to go 5 sets. I miss that Rafa EXCITEMENT
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I did feel bad for Rafa at the time, but he got his wins later.Whole tournament was clutch from him.
Heck, his whole first half of 2022. The Felix match at RG and against Djokovic being down a break to go 5 sets. I miss that Rafa EXCITEMENT
But the Fed domination of Rafa after was much needed for us Fed fans and himself.
That Rafa/Fed 19 WC was an underated match too.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Rafa played better in 2018, but still credit to Federer who's level was honestly high af at Wimbledon 2019. He was tearing that ball UP. I was actually thinking about that match the other day, that match point Rafa saved was insane, he had to kill himself to even stay in rallies with Fed in that match.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Those were the days.
Stop talking about it, you are making me hate tennis again. A bunch of next gen mugs.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
The night before the match, I said here:
"Remember Basel 2015"
We didn't have much evidence bc they hadn't played each other in a while, but Fed won that match, a Final, in straights. I had belief, but when it got to 1-3 in the 5th there wasn't much of it left.
Nate7-5
Hall of Fame
Kevin Anderson was 66/1 live to defeat Federer at this Wimbledon match - the only match he won against him in 7 attempts.
Roger Federer stunned by Kevin Anderson in five-set Wimbledon thriller
Roger Federer was knocked out of Wimbledon by Kevin Anderson after a thrilling five-set battle that ended in a 2-6, 6-7 (5), 7-5, 6-4, 13-11 victory for the South African
www.theguardian.com
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I still dunno how he was capable of that. Especially after being 2 sets down. That was a crazy day.Kevin Anderson was 66/1 live to defeat Federer at this Wimbledon match - the only match he won against him in 7 attempts.
Roger Federer stunned by Kevin Anderson in five-set Wimbledon thriller
Roger Federer was knocked out of Wimbledon by Kevin Anderson after a thrilling five-set battle that ended in a 2-6, 6-7 (5), 7-5, 6-4, 13-11 victory for the South African
Racquet_smash
Professional
Probably yes.
Pretty sure everyone at 0-40 tought it was over.
Pretty sure everyone at 0-40 tought it was over.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Kevin Anderson was 66/1 live to defeat Federer at this Wimbledon match - the only match he won against him in 7 attempts.
Roger Federer stunned by Kevin Anderson in five-set Wimbledon thriller
Roger Federer was knocked out of Wimbledon by Kevin Anderson after a thrilling five-set battle that ended in a 2-6, 6-7 (5), 7-5, 6-4, 13-11 victory for the South African
Outside of the Finals heartbreaks like 40-15 and Wimbledon 2008, I think this match hurts the most....maybe more than US14 SF
Enceladus
Legend
The AO 2022 and Wimbledon 2022, including the USO 2022, suffered insensitive political interventions. But of all of them, the most serious attack on the integrity of the open tennis competition is AO 2022, because they prevented the participation of the record holder of the tournament there. This is similar, how political constraint would make it impossible for Nadal to participate in the RG. Preventing an exceptional player from participating will affect the competition more than banning the start for average players.
This was an incredible comeback. No doubt about it.
Rates quite high because of multiple reasons -
1. Playing one of the best of his generation in hard courts who also beat Djokovic in last USO.
2. Second AO was kind of important for Nadal
3. He was completely down and out with a 4% chance.
I will be honest. It might have been the greatest Houdini act in tennis.
Rates quite high because of multiple reasons -
1. Playing one of the best of his generation in hard courts who also beat Djokovic in last USO.
2. Second AO was kind of important for Nadal
3. He was completely down and out with a 4% chance.
I will be honest. It might have been the greatest Houdini act in tennis.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Wasn't in straights. Nadal was bad in 2015 (and ducked Fed in Cinci that year) but surprisingly he found some good form in indoor season of all places. It was a high quality match IMO.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Nadal comeback was great but in retrospect when you see the same scenario played out in Med vs Sinner, it seems less impressive to me.
Med just can't keep up the aggressive play for the BO5 match without running out of steam at some point. And he can't beat the very best with his usual defensive game, he has to go for it.
Even in 2021 USO, if Novak somehow won that 3d set he would have won the match IMO. Med admitted in the presser after the match that he was getting tired.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Gaudio vs. Coria RG final had no ATGs in there and is widely acknowledged as one of the greatest comebacks ever.
In 2022 it was no choke, Nadal was simply too clutch and outplayed the Russian since 0-2 and 0-40. Saying Medvedev choked the AO 2022 final is equally unobjective as saying Nadal choked the AO 2017 F. No, Rafa didn't. Rafa's legs said no, plus Roger increased uis aggressivity and precission and Nadal was outplayed. As much as it was an epic match, and a great display of mental strength plus clynic groundstokes by Roger, the AO 2017 F doesn't qualify as one of the "greatest comebacks" though, as it was merely overcoming a half a set (1-3) deficit, while in the AO 22 F, RG 2004 F and RG 1984 F, the winning player needed to overcome a 2 sets deficit.
The AO 2024 F was also not a choke at all. Medvedev had spent more than 20 hours, the equavalent of almost two more matches than Sinner (15 hours) before advancing to the final. Medvedev legs didn't respond from the 3rd set, it was clear as the sun. There was nothing else he could've done.
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Sport
G.O.A.T.
If Nadal supposedly "ducked" Federer in Cincy 2015, what does it tell us of Federer at the USO 2013 losing to Robredo before facing Nadal?
The AO 2024 and AO 2022 F are not the same at all, in the AO 2024 Med was exhausted from the 3rd set after having spent 20 hours on court, the equivalent of almost 2 more matches than Sinner (15 hours) before the final. There was nothing else the Russian could've done with that fatigue. At the AO 2022, Med wasn't tired, nor did he show any sumptom of fatigue.
Crazy how you called me a Federer hater but here you're dismissing Nadal and his rivals 24/7. Now supposedly the AO 2022 F is not that impressive, Med is a weak rival and Sampras with only 14 Slams and 0 French Open is greater than Nadal with 22 Slams and a Double Career Grand Slam, right? Who's the hater now?
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