Is Sinner going to be the new Coria?

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Rafa4LifeEver

Rafa4LifeEver

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Now, I'm not saying that the rest of his career will be a total disaster like Coria's was after losing that infamous RG 2004 final from 2-0 sets up & multiple chances to close out 3-0 or 3-1. Sinner is younger than Coria was & probably not as mentally fragile, but this is still a bad look on him & not very good signs about the matchup with Alcaraz going forward.

This is a gigantic messup from him, with Alcaraz not playing anywhere near his best on clay & Sinner playing at his highest clay level. The Italian was leading 2-0 & still the spaniard snatched away the win.

Losing a slam F from 2-0 up with so many chances win 3-0 or 3-1 (more likely)
He was a break up in set 3, broke back to level at 5-4 in set 3,
had 3 consecutive match points at 5-3 40-0 in set 4, also led with a mini break in set 4 TB,
broke back and led 6-5 30-15 (on Alcaraz serve) in set 5, had 2 golden looks at 30-30 & 40-40 to set up match points

So the question is, how will this mess up Sinner? Or will he recover mentally just fine?
 
I hope he recovers, would be pretty anti-climactic if his entire career would be influenced by just one loss.
 
sinner may win a few more slams but chances are he won’t ever beat Carlos again. The mental block is too big. And it doesn’t matter what form he brings to the final. Alcaraz level wasn’t even that good today and sinner still blew it. I see the 5 straight losses turn into 15 straight losses pretty quick
 
The tour is soooooooooooooooooo weak right now that he will probably still be able to beat most players. But he is never beating Alcaraz ever again, that is a sure thing.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Now, I'm not saying that the rest of his career will be a total disaster like Coria's was after losing that infamous RG 2004 final from 2-0 sets up & multiple chances to close out 3-0 or 3-1. Sinner is younger than Coria was & probably not as mentally fragile, but this is still a bad look on him & not very good signs about the matchup with Alcaraz going forward.

This is a gigantic messup from him, with Alcaraz not playing anywhere near his best on clay & Sinner playing at his highest clay level. The Italian was leading 2-0 & still the spaniard snatched away the win.

Losing a slam F from 2-0 up with so many chances win 3-0 or 3-1 (more likely)
He was a break up in set 3, broke back to level at 5-4 in set 3,
had 3 consecutive match points at 5-3 40-0 in set 4, also led with a mini break in set 4 TB,
broke back and led 6-5 30-15 (on Alcaraz serve) in set 5, had 2 golden looks at 30-30 & 40-40 to set up match points

So the question is, how will this mess up Sinner? Or will he recover mentally just fine?
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wasn't it Alcaraz up by a break in the 3rd set. I remember it being 4-2 Alcaraz in the 3rd set. don't think Sinner should've one the 3rd set.

obviously had his chances in the 4th set.
 
abmk said:
wasn't it Alcaraz up by a break in the 3rd set. I remember it being 4-2 Alcaraz in the 3rd set. don't think Sinner should've one the 3rd set.

obviously had his chances in the 4th set.
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Sinner broke Alcaraz's serve to lead 1-0 & then had a game point or two to go 2-0 before Alcaraz broke back to level at 1-1.
 
Coria was never in the fourth set, after cramping around 1-1 in that set. In the fifth set, Coria was break of serve up 5 times (I think), and twice served for the title at 5-4 and 6-5. At 5-4, he was broken to love. At 6-5, he had 2 championship points, went for winners on both and narrowly missed the line both times. Gaudio won 8-6 in the fifth set.

At the start, Coria led 6-0, 5-1, and then 6-0, 6-3, 4-4 and 40-0 love up on serve.

Coria never won a major, and that obviously doesn't apply to Sinner.
 
There’s really no reason to believe that anyone else is topping either of these two before the Wimbledon final so we should see this again unless ones draw gives them a tricky opponent early on.

Us open? Depends on the health status of both where upsets tend to happen.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
This is a gigantic messup from him, with Alcaraz not playing anywhere near his best on clay & Sinner playing at his highest clay level. The Italian was leading 2-0 & still the spaniard snatched away the win.

So the question is, how will this mess up Sinner? Or will he recover mentally just fine?
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Sinner loses control of his bladder when he sees the big match player on the other side of the net.

E la più bella racchetta del circuito is so terrified of the big match player that he panics and breaks down physically every time he faces him.
 
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I get cramps said:
Sinner loses control of his bladder when he sees the big match player on the other side of the net.

E la più bella racchetta del circuito is so terrified of the big match player that he panics and breaks down physicallay every time he faces him.
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Lol at the language xD
I didn't anticipate that one coming.
 
No. Simply by winning his first major title from 0-2 down and being close to losing in the 3rd set, makes him the anti-Coria.
 
Alcaraz nowhere near his best level? What is his best one then? When he also narrowly beat Zverev in the previous final, or the two sets year prior before the cramps, or the lolympics? I swear people are talking like he has a truckload of stunning performances, like he is in his late 20s or something lol...

Sinner will be fine. I am confident he will conquer every major tournament at least once.
 
If he had been playing anyone other than Alcaraz he would now be the Roland Garros champion. Coria lost to a much lower ranked player in Gaudio.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Now, I'm not saying that the rest of his career will be a total disaster like Coria's was after losing that infamous RG 2004 final from 2-0 sets up & multiple chances to close out 3-0 or 3-1. Sinner is younger than Coria was & probably not as mentally fragile, but this is still a bad look on him & not very good signs about the matchup with Alcaraz going forward.

This is a gigantic messup from him, with Alcaraz not playing anywhere near his best on clay & Sinner playing at his highest clay level. The Italian was leading 2-0 & still the spaniard snatched away the win.

Losing a slam F from 2-0 up with so many chances win 3-0 or 3-1 (more likely)
He was a break up in set 3, broke back to level at 5-4 in set 3,
had 3 consecutive match points at 5-3 40-0 in set 4, also led with a mini break in set 4 TB,
broke back and led 6-5 30-15 (on Alcaraz serve) in set 5, had 2 golden looks at 30-30 & 40-40 to set up match points

So the question is, how will this mess up Sinner? Or will he recover mentally just fine?
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Sinner is older than Coria was in 2004. Coria was 22 and a half; Sinner is almost 24.
 
Hood_Man said:
No. Simply by winning his first major title from 0-2 down and being close to losing in the 3rd set, makes him the anti-Coria.
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Coria, before the 2004 French Open final, had a reputation for mental strength, speed, shot artistry, and for being a bit underhanded with gamesmanship. I don't recall anyone thinking that Gaudio had any hope of beating Coria in the 2004 French Open final.
 
Sinner will probably be more like Agassi except without the Clay/Grass credentials. Dominant Hardcourt player, overrall but lower tier on clay and grass For a few years anyways
 
Mustard said:
Coria, before the 2004 French Open final, had a reputation for mental strength, speed, shot artistry, and for being a bit underhanded with gamesmanship. I don't recall anyone thinking that Gaudio had any hope of beating Coria in the 2004 French Open final.
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Those who watched him in the SF and QF and previous runs like Mallorca and Barcelona 2002, or RG 2003 vs Ferrero should know he had a chance, even if he wasn't the favorite.

Hell, even watching the previous Coria-Gaudio matches they were always close.

Nalbandian who lost to Gaudio that SF actually said he wasn't that surprised with the result given how good Gaudio could play on clay.
 
TheGoldenEra1990’s said:
Sinner will probably be more like Agassi except without the Clay/Grass credentials. Dominant Hardcourt player, overrall but lower tier on clay and grass For a few years anyways
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Actually, they might end up with similar clay/grass resume. That is, very good, but clearly below hard courts. Sinner might achieve more because of more homogenization, worse competition and more consistency.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Fraud would surely not choke from 2-0 up in a GS final lol
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not so sure he choked in WIM 2011 QF from 2-0 up against tsonga and then up 2-0 against djokovic in US11 SF. He also choked in masters 2005 masters cup final against nalbandian who felt like a grand slam final at that moment
 
It will take him about three days to fully get over it. The kid is a tennis machine. (And expect many upgrades in the future). I wouldn’t bet against him to win 2025 Wimbledon.
 
Mustard said:
Coria, before the 2004 French Open final, had a reputation for mental strength, speed, shot artistry, and for being a bit underhanded with gamesmanship. I don't recall anyone thinking that Gaudio had any hope of beating Coria in the 2004 French Open final.
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When I was an electrician I wasn't known as Dave the Electrician.

When I was a bricklayer I wasn't Dave the Bricklayer.

But I **** one donkey...
 
For third year in a row, Carlos has won titles in three different surfaces. :cool:

This year he won his first on an indoor court. He still has to win on an outdoor hardcourt.
 
If there is someone who can handle it, it is Sinner.
Alcaraz somehow won that match. Sinner will have his chances at USO and Wimby. It is was too early to write someone who has won 3 slams off.
Even if he were to retire tomorrow, he would be remembered as one of the greatest players with an unbelievable consistency.
 
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