Is Talk Tennis Forum dying?

Pablo1989

Pablo1989

Professional
I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.

What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
 
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JaoSousa

Semi-Pro
Pablo1989 said:
I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.

What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for the tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
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yes
 
Raul_SJ

Raul_SJ

Legend
Pablo1989 said:
I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.

What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for the tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
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GOAT threads are boring and out of control.
"Do you think that a 2007 Fed beats a 2014 Nadal on a neutral surface or a 2012 Djoker on grass?"
:rolleyes: <YAWN>

But do not worry.

The GOAT debate will finally end when our beloved Djoker wins the Australia, French, Wimbledon and U.S. in 2020.

:)
 
swizzy

swizzy

Hall of Fame
it will fade in a few years as they retire and the dust settles.. it will boil up again but future players and slam winners will take over and tennis and this forum will have moved on. this has been great for tennis, this dominance of the big 3. has to be the greatest sports story of the last 50 years and despite the frantic pace of opinions and posts on this forum it is barely a blip on most peoples minds in the real world. it has been a hell of a ride and we are still a few thousand goat debate posts still to come
 
Pablo1989

Pablo1989

Professional
Benben245 said:
The quality of the posts, decorum, and mutual respect in the community has diminished with the influx of young millennials. Next-Gen disappointments are not just a pandemic on the ATP. I blame smartphones, limbic system overload and a sub-cultural idiomatic embrace of mediocrity and the demonization of capitalism.
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You only have to watch most of the comments in this thread.... :rolleyes:
 
augustobt

augustobt

Legend
Well, the main problem still the constant increase of people who started watching tennis in the last couple of years and post here thinking they know something because they've read a couple of wikipedia pages. It's all about meaningless numbers and resume. You can't really comment on any player or situation without trolls trying to hijack the thread with stupid fanbase wars.
 
Pablo1989

Pablo1989

Professional
augustobt said:
Well, the main problem still the constant increase of people who started watching tennis in the last couple of years and post here thinking they know something because they've read a couple of wikipedia pages. It's all about meaningless numbers and resume. You can't really comment on any player or situation without trolls trying to hijack the thread with stupid fanbase wars.
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But I don't talking only about haters and trolls, but the general activity on the forum. For example, two years ago there would be many more people posting about the Daniil-Nole match that is taking place right now.
 
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EdSWright

Professional
Benben245 said:
The quality of the posts, decorum, and mutual respect in the community has diminished with the influx of young millennials. Next-Gen disappointments are not just a pandemic on the ATP. I blame smartphones, limbic system overload and a sub-cultural idiomatic embrace of mediocrity and the demonization of capitalism.
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Don't forget the existentialism-inducing post modern neocolonial state capture and... omg, #4015goatsucks
 
van_Loederen

van_Loederen

Professional
Pablo1989 said:
lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.
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many Feder fans have already left the stadium. :cry:
 
Yugram

Yugram

Hall of Fame
augustobt said:
Well, the main problem still the constant increase of people who started watching tennis in the last couple of years and post here thinking they know something because they've read a couple of wikipedia pages. It's all about meaningless numbers and resume. You can't really comment on any player or situation without trolls trying to hijack the thread with stupid fanbase wars.
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Remember about "stupid fanbase wars" next time you sh*tpost on Nadal, you moralist.
 
augustobt

augustobt

Legend
Yugram said:
Remember about "stupid fanbase wars" next time you sh*tpost on Nadal.
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Lol. This is so childish that isn't surprising it's coming from you, mate.

Actually, it's quite clear that Nadal fans on this board (specially the ones who joined after 2017) dragged the level of discussion to the absolute bottom.
 
Karma Tennis

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
Pablo1989 said:
What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
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Imho, the biggest problem with TTW seems to be the way that the whole board is Moderated.

There are an endless number of threads that seem to be repetitive.

For example ...

"Which Stringing Machine should I purchase?"
"Player xxx is the GOAT?"
"When is racquet XYZ being released?"
"Should I use Poly string?"

The board should have Key Topic Threads that never change. They just keep growing. People who ask repetitive questions can just be referred to earlier post in the same thread rather than creating new threads. Anyone who attempts to create new thread with questions that have been already answered should be directed the the relevant thread and have their new thread closed asap. Creating new threads for questions that have already be answered elsewhere is an indication of the posters inability to use the SEARCH function.

The best way I have seen this managed is on www.whirlpool.net.au. TTW could learn a lot from the way that board is operated.
 
Tanya

Tanya

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I miss the old trolls like davey25, NadalAgassi, Amelie Mauresmo (i always suspected they were the same person), MotherMarjorie, etc. They were fun
 
Amritia

Amritia

Semi-Pro
Karma Tennis said:
The board should have Key Topic Threads that never change. They just keep growing. People who ask repetitive questions can just be referred to earlier post in the same thread rather than creating new threads.
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That was attempted on a British forum I used to use and it totally killed the forum.
 
Karma Tennis

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
Amritia said:
That was attempted on a British forum I used to use and it totally killed the forum.
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Was that forum directly related to the Sales Function of a single business organisation like TW? ... Or the Sales function of a particular industry - like WP?
 
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Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Pablo1989 said:
I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.

What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
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It is dying, because the trolls are allowed to roam free. They basically swamp every sensible discussion within several posts. If one wants to read something sensible he needs to weed out thousands of useless posts, which in turn makes it difficult to have a friendly reader's experience. One of the reasons might be that the Internet gave access to the sport to people that don't play tennis or any other sport seriously, so they have little connection to what they are discussing. When the boards like this one first appeared there was a huge interest from the regular players, because they gave them platform that was better than anything they had before and discussions about tennis related topics were much easier held between larger groups of people. That was the first generation of users, which provided for a quality content because they played the game, and were mostly interested in practical discussions and not about validation of their own presence. After that came the "Internet obsessed" generation, that gained its experience through it, rather than in the real life. That affected the quality of posting. The volume might not be decreasing (it might be actually increasing), but the quality has gone steep downhill. To be fair, that is not an observation only about this forum. Several others are also like that. MTBR, once the biggest and best MTB forum has the same fate. Nowadays smaller forums supported (ironically) by tight local players provide for much more meaningful content. TW is doing what they can, but there is only so much they can do if the user base is like that.

 
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Robert Baratheon

Robert Baratheon

Professional
Time is a snake eating its own tail.
Newcomers come and enjoy and think the glory is theirs and the age is golden.
Oldies have seen the same shït again and again and again and they grow bored thinking that the end is nigh.
Oldies slowly leave.
Newcomers slowly grow old.
The cycle slowly but surely continues.
 
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sredna42

sredna42

Hall of Fame
Pablo1989 said:
I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.

What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
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Yup.
 
OhYes

OhYes

Legend
Everything dies, so will this place. Especially since it's main topics are ones that have been talked here so many times. On the bright side, although everything dies, there are lot of new things coming to life. No problem to talk and be amused on internet that is for sure. :)
 
YetAnotherFedFan

YetAnotherFedFan

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People are generally so narcissistic on this forum that they feel compelled to start a thread on the most absurd subject matter.

Other chronically bored individuals, often with a vested interest, wade into to these absurd debates to give their equally absurd opinions.
 
merwy

merwy

Legend
Yeah I agree with OP. I'm not sure about the exact numbers in terms of forum activity, but it sure feels quieter and I'm enjoying it less. The way that people talk has changed, it's mostly trolling and making fun of each other. Which is fine, but it's what most people would come to a tennis forum for. If you're not one of the most frequent and well known posters on the forum, it's kind of hard to find your place.
 
TheGhostOfAgassi

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Pablo1989 said:
I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.

What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
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There was this poll and turns out a lot of Fed fans left. It’s more Rafa fans than Fed fans here now. Was notable after Wimbledon 19 and also USO 19.
So yeah, less posters cause less Fed fans.
 
TheGhostOfAgassi

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Robert Baratheon said:
Time is a snake eating its own tail.
Newcomers come and enjoy and think the glory is theirs and the age is golden.
Oldies have seen the same shït again and again and again and they grow bored thinking that the end is nigh.
Oldies slowly leave.
Newcomers slowly grow old.
The cycle slowly but surely continues.
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To me it seems rare the new posters are new. They come in here and post as if they have been here 10 years and understand everything what’s going on.
 
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