Is the Prince Original/Classic layup gone for good?

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  1. graycrait

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    I was looking at my bag 'o rackets today and thought if my POG 100s, POG Mids, and POG OSs break or wear out what do I replace them with? O-Ports - hell NO!, some BS called Textreme - hell NO! What is Prince thinking? So, tell me what brand to move to?
     
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  2. Spirtnoye

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    Any of the newer Wilson's are quite good. I've played the blade 98S, 2013 BLX 100, 2014 PS97, 2014 RF97A, 2014 PS90, and 2016 RF97A. I moved to Wilson because I was having issues with Babolat rackets. I'd tried all different types of setups with string, even going to natural gut! In the end, a switch to a more flexible frame that I could add weight to to get to my numbers was a great move. My go-to sticks are the 2016 RF97 and the PS90. I usually use hybrid setups and have such a liking for NXT Duo II. Granted, all of this is one person's opinion so, if you demo a few and find you don't like them, there's a ton of other sticks to try.


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  3. scotus

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    You can always get used ones off the big auction site.
     
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  4. robbo1970

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    Good question.

    Maybe look at some of the Yonex racquets with similar specs. Volkl V-Sense 10 325, or maybe look at the Angell's.
     
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  5. Grieeegoorr

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    Second the Angell's
     
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  6. CopolyX

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    what ever works best for you...
     
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  7. zalive

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    Staying away from anything basalt (BLX) is a wise decision. Because plain graphite is better, especially if done with old style layup, softer type sandwich.

    Exactly. I was just thinking lately that vast majority of stuff produced nowadays are inferior to classics, successful designs from the past, and that it simply doesn't pay off to buy anything new. Unless it is Angell, which is different. Or some rare exceptions. I consider what Pro Kennex does to be still pretty good layups, if you can find your style within their offering. Perhaps fer models from Volkl, perhaps few from Tecnifibre like Ltds (which I didn't try TBH)...perhaps an exception from big brands kitchen like PS95s 2015 (the one without BLX in the hoop). Really thin offer, with the rest (majority) being nowhere near quality which once was common.

    Yonex stiffened it up in the latest lines so some caution is good. For example, I'm not sure any of successors of Tour 97 was better than Tour 97 itself. While predcessors were probably even better.
     
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  8. topspn

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    Angells are awesome and highly recommend the new PS one7
     
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  9. langdon0555

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    Have you even played with the new textremes? They are actually pretty good. A lot of people would agree on the board.

    Textreme actually does what it's supposed to do. On low flex frames it adds torsional stability in the throat. So a frame with a 60 flex like the TT 95 feels a little crisper and more stable because of the textreme.
     
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  10. robbo1970

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    I was thinking of the DR98 with its 62 flex.
     
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  11. JohnBPittsburgh

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    I second the Textreme line. I am curious as to why you said,
    They are probably the best frames Prince has put out. You can customize them easily into whatever you want. They are comfortable. There are good options, depending on what you are looking for (95-120 inch headsizes). The feel of the Textreme line is better than anything currently available. I think it would be awesome, if you got a demo box from TW with 4 Textremes, and updated this thread with your review :)

    Just get grommets with whatever frame you choose (harder than you might think actually). This is the achilles tendon of Prince.
     
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  12. Automatix

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    Sadly I think that Prince currently has many of those... Marketing, logistics, stock issues... ;)

    The Textreme line has been rated good. Granted you won't satisfy everyone but it's not like this line is the issue why people are leaving the brand for other frames. Prince has to sort out the basics first which I and John mentioned. That grommet issue is pain.
     
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  13. graycrait

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    I probably shouldn't have started this thread. At least not the way I started it. It is sobering to look at how many Wilson Blades and 6.1s, Volkls, Heads and a few other odds and ends I have tossed aside in favor of the POG style Princes. My arm likes them and it doesn't seem to matter which string I use in them, my arm still likes them. I was looking for a review of the 93" yesterday and stumbled on all those TW reviews on the reissue PCGs from 2012 and got all misty eyed.
     
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  14. Seth

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    Well, Theo - sometimes you just have to try your best, you know.
     
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  15. SinjinCooper

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    I would love to see a reboot of the POG OS in Textreme form -- a true OS, thin beam player's racquet. But I fear there's just no demand for it.
     
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  16. michael valek

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    Sign me up for 10 if they get made. Considering 100p or phantoms but not at 250 euros each!!
     
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  17. smalahove

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    I'm not saying you won't enjoy the TT100P, but as a both a thin beamed-frame and Prince lover, the TT100P has done nothing for me. I really liked the first gen (EXO3) Tour 100s, so the Phantom might be the ticket for recapturing the POG in a modern frame. Right now I'm playing the Yonex DG97 which is a great option; I'd even venture to say a better one that the TT95 (which I really like btw) and closer to the POG in the feel of the frame.
     
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  18. JohnBPittsburgh

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    250 euros seems like a lot for a 100P. Maybe you are referring to the cost of importing the Japanese Textreme Graphite 100 (I agree, Prince USA should definitely release this frame and grommets for it,,,,hoping that they will fit the PCG 100 that was released a few years ago as well) I can dream....
     
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  19. DanF1961

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    I'm thinking the Angell TC 100 would be a great option: Thin beam 100 Sq inches. The 70 (no strings or grip) RA would be closer to 64 with Strings & Grip, and the 63 RA would be about 58-59 strung which is similar to the old Princes.
     
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  20. markwillplay

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    I have 3 great 4 stripe OS and played th e 100 as well. I am currently loving my 2 tour 100 18x20s. Some don't like the ports....I do. I think the ports along tithe that strung pattern is a fantastic idea. They are stable as hell too althou mine are weight a bit with heavier grips and a smudge of lead on one.
     
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  21. graycrait

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    Every time I go to the Angell website I build another one. I'm going to have to build one and send them money one day.
     
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  22. The Big Kahuna

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    I was playing with the Yonex DR 98 for two years find that the Prince Textreme 107 Warrior. I find it plays very similar to that racket in terms of feel, control, spin, and maneuverability - with just a bit more pop. It is one of very few oversize sticks that have a solid plow through and remains maneuverable and controllable. I'm very happy with this racket. It has improved my game. An excellent racket.
     
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  23. The Big Kahuna

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    Donnay is a good option, as well. Also foam filled like the POG.


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  24. Fedinkum

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    Is Prince gone for good?
     
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  25. The Big Kahuna

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    Not at all. Prince was recently taken over by Tennis Warehouse. The POG may be gone now for good though as it is unlikely that they will bring back older models when trying to rebuild the foundation of their marketing moving forward.


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  26. esgee48

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    TW is going to do mainly the racquet distribution in the US. Did not take over the brand which is stilled owned by an IP firm, who only does licensing. TW has brought back classic frames as re-issues, but this is one without similar demand. You could try...
     
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  27. Backhanded Compliment

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    yup angell tc100 is a great frame
     
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