Is the top 10 starting to look good?

kragster

Hall of Fame
The current top 10 includes the 4 big guys plus a couple of very dangerous players - Del potro and Tsonga (who have beaten all the top guys), the ever consistent Ferrer , Berdych and Wawrinka who at least have the weapons to beat the big guys, and Gasquet who is in a run of good form.

Compared to some of the guys we have had in the top 10 over the last few years- Tipsy, Almagro, Pico, Fish, Monfils , Verdasco etc, I think this new list looks much more promising. When I say promising I mean in terms of ability to bring a high level to the table consistently. If one of the new guys like Nishikori or Dimitrov can join in and replace Gasquet, it will look even better since I think Gasquet is the most likely to be up and down.
 
The current top 10 includes the 4 big guys plus a couple of very dangerous players - Del potro and Tsonga (who have beaten all the top guys), the ever consistent Ferrer , Berdych and Wawrinka who at least have the weapons to beat the big guys, and Gasquet who is in a run of good form.

Compared to some of the guys we have had in the top 10 over the last few years- Tipsy, Almagro, Pico, Fish, Monfils , Verdasco etc, I think this new list looks much more promising. When I say promising I mean in terms of ability to bring a high level to the table consistently. If one of the new guys like Nishikori or Dimitrov can join in and replace Gasquet, it will look even better since I think Gasquet is the most likely to be up and down.

Maybe the Billionaire's son can take the last spot. I'm all for it.
 

gtshark1

Rookie
It might be getting better BUT......

This is a good top 10 (Random from 95, I'm sure there is better). Nothing will match mid 90's:

1 Pete Sampras USA
2 Andre Agassi USA
3 Thomas Muster AUT
4 Boris Becker GER
5 Michael Chang USA
6 Yevgeny Kafelnikov RUS
7 Thomas Enqvist SWE
8 Jim Courier USA 2471
9 Wayne Ferreira RSA
10 Goran Ivanišević
 
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monfed

Guest
It might be getting better BUT......

This is a good top 10 (Random from 95, I'm sure there is better). Nothing will match mid 90's:

1 Pete Sampras USA
2 Andre Agassi USA
3 Thomas Muster AUT
4 Boris Becker GER
5 Michael Chang USA
6 Yevgeny Kafelnikov RUS
7 Thomas Enqvist SWE
8 Jim Courier USA 2471
9 Wayne Ferreira RSA
10 Goran Ivanišević

Muster at 3? You're right, nothing will match that. :lol:
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
I love 90s tennis but Delpo would smash 7 guys on this list and maybe 9.
It might be getting better BUT......

This is a good top 10 (Random from 95, I'm sure there is better). Nothing will match mid 90's:

1 Pete Sampras USA
2 Andre Agassi USA
3 Thomas Muster AUT
4 Boris Becker GER
5 Michael Chang USA
6 Yevgeny Kafelnikov RUS
7 Thomas Enqvist SWE
8 Jim Courier USA 2471
9 Wayne Ferreira RSA
10 Goran Ivanišević
 

gtshark1

Rookie
Muster at 3? You're right, nothing will match that. :lol:

Add Phillipousis, Rafter, Rios, Brugera.....

Muster at #3 isnt the best 3 ever but again, like I mentioned this was a sample and the 90's in my opinion cannot be matched as far as the top players all being together.
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
The current top 10 includes the 4 big guys plus a couple of very dangerous players - Del potro and Tsonga (who have beaten all the top guys), the ever consistent Ferrer , Berdych and Wawrinka who at least have the weapons to beat the big guys, and Gasquet who is in a run of good form.

Compared to some of the guys we have had in the top 10 over the last few years- Tipsy, Almagro, Pico, Fish, Monfils , Verdasco etc, I think this new list looks much more promising. When I say promising I mean in terms of ability to bring a high level to the table consistently. If one of the new guys like Nishikori or Dimitrov can join in and replace Gasquet, it will look even better since I think Gasquet is the most likely to be up and down.

Certainly looking better than the Tipsy-Magro-Pico-Dasco list.
It's a pity that Soderling, who was a solid top 5 player, is out (and unlikely to come back to his former level ever).
Wouldn't mind Raonic replacing Gasquet either.
 
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egn

Hall of Fame
I'm sorry 1985 Year End was ridiculous and I don't think there will ever be a year that was as crazy.

1. Ivan Lendl
2. John McEnroe
3. Mats Wilander
4. Jimmy Connors
5. Stefan Edberg
6. Boris Becker
7. Yannick Noah
8. Anders Jarryd
9. Misolav Mecir
10. Kevin Curren
 

Relinquis

Hall of Fame
I love 90s tennis but Delpo would smash 7 guys on this list and maybe 9.

7 maybe, but i don't see him beating Sampras or Aggassi.

anyway, yeah the likelihood of wawrinka joining the top 10 makes things interesting.

maybe it will inspire Gasquet to perform better at the big tournaments.

i think the top 20 can start to look much more interesting when Gulbis, Dimitrov, Janowicz, Fognini, Paire and Tomic join. Cilic has been more consistent.

Love having Haas kicking around close to the top 10. He could make it in i think.
 

mightyrick

Legend
I'm sorry 1985 Year End was ridiculous and I don't think there will ever be a year that was as crazy.

1. Ivan Lendl
2. John McEnroe
3. Mats Wilander
4. Jimmy Connors
5. Stefan Edberg
6. Boris Becker
7. Yannick Noah
8. Anders Jarryd
9. Misolav Mecir
10. Kevin Curren

That top-10 is definitely sickening. The second year of the ATP top-10 is actually pretty sick, too. From 1974:

1. Jimmy Connors
2. John Newcombe
3. Bjorn Borg
4. Rod Laver
5. Guillermo Vilas
6. Tom Okker
7. Arthur Ashe
8. Stan Smith
9. Ken Rosewall
10. Ilie Nastase
11. Manuel Orantes
 
i think the top 20 can start to look much more interesting when Gulbis, Dimitrov, Janowicz, Fognini, Paire and Tomic join. Cilic has been more consistent.

Love having Haas kicking around close to the top 10. He could make it in i think.

Not sure about those 2, and don't think Tomic is in it for the long haul. Could prove me wrong though.

And yeah, lovely to see Haas making his way there! What a story. Imagine if he won a Slam at his age? :)
 

Devilito

Legend
year end rankings 1992... every single player was a slam winner at one point

1 Courier, Jim (USA) 3,599
2 Edberg, Stefan (SWE) 3,244
3 Sampras, Pete (USA) 3,203
4 Becker, Boris (GER) 2,751
5 Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 2,716
6 Chang, Michael (USA) 2,373
7 Korda, Petr (CZE) 2,174
8 Lendl, Ivan (USA) 1,985
9 Agassi, Andre (USA) 1,852
10 Krajicek, Richard (NED) 1,801
 

gtshark1

Rookie
It looks like this might turn into a discussion on best era. I'm sure its been debated heavily before.

I'll vote 90's.... GT
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Muster at 3? You're right, nothing will match that. :lol:

Muster was 65-2 on clay in 1995. He won 12 titles overall, which included a French Open, an Italian Open, Monte Carlo, and a Super 9 event on indoor carpet in Essen.
 

mattennis

Hall of Fame
year end rankings 1992... every single player was a slam winner at one point

1 Courier, Jim (USA) 3,599
2 Edberg, Stefan (SWE) 3,244
3 Sampras, Pete (USA) 3,203
4 Becker, Boris (GER) 2,751
5 Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 2,716
6 Chang, Michael (USA) 2,373
7 Korda, Petr (CZE) 2,174
8 Lendl, Ivan (USA) 1,985
9 Agassi, Andre (USA) 1,852
10 Krajicek, Richard (NED) 1,801

That was amazing, really. But IIRC Goran ended nº4 and Becker ended nº5.
 

Devilito

Legend
Muster at 3? You're right, nothing will match that. :lol:

one of the most dominant clay courters of all time at a certain stage of his career as well as a slam champion. Potentially a far higher longevity had he not suffered an almost fatal car accident early in his career. Have some respect for tennis history. A lot of these jokers you think are amazing now, nobody is going to remember in 20 years.
 

mightyrick

Legend
one of the most dominant clay courters of all time at a certain stage of his career as well as a slam champion. Potentially a far higher longevity had he not suffered an almost fatal car accident early in his career. Have some respect for tennis history. A lot of these jokers you think are amazing now, nobody is going to remember in 20 years.

This accident was so tragic. A lot of us get into these GOAT/Best Ever/Most Successful/Awesomest Player arguments... and don't remember guys like Muster. Or any of the guys who had short (or interrupted careers) due to insurmountable injury.
 

Relinquis

Hall of Fame
Not sure about those 2, and don't think Tomic is in it for the long haul. Could prove me wrong though.

And yeah, lovely to see Haas making his way there! What a story. Imagine if he won a Slam at his age? :)
Paire is extremely talented, but mentally weak and impulsive. Once he matures he will be a force. He's young.

Fognini is extremely underrated. He's quite intelligent on the court and very patient despite the bad body language.

They still do have a lot to prove, but they have promise.
 
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1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Roddick, Andy (USA)
3 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
4 Safin, Marat (RUS)
5 Moya, Carlos (ESP)
6 Coria, Guillermo (ARG)
7 Henman, Tim (GBR)
8 Agassi, Andre (USA)
9 Nalbandian, David (ARG)
10 Gaudio, Gaston (ARG)

I guess this is when the top 10 started to get more top heavy.
 

tennisbuck

Hall of Fame
Certainly looking better than the Tipsy-Magro-Pico-Dasco list.
It's a pity that Soderling, who was a solid top 5 player, is out (and unlikely to come back to his former level ever).
Wouldn't mind Raonic replacing Gasquet either.

I don't understand this. Those guys earned there spot in the top 10 just like the guys you like. I'm not sure what makes a good top 10. If Tipsy was in right now he would be deserving simply because he is ahead of your guys
 

mightyrick

Legend
1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Roddick, Andy (USA)
3 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
4 Safin, Marat (RUS)
5 Moya, Carlos (ESP)
6 Coria, Guillermo (ARG)
7 Henman, Tim (GBR)
8 Agassi, Andre (USA)
9 Nalbandian, David (ARG)
10 Gaudio, Gaston (ARG)

I guess this is when the top 10 started to get more top heavy.

Keyword there: "started".

Here's when it got really bad... 2006...

1. Roger Federer
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Nikolay Davydenko
4. James Blake
5. Ivan Ljubucic
6. Andy Roddick
7. Tommy Robredo
8. David Nalbandian
9. Mario Ancic
10. Fernando Gonzalez
 
I think were getting close to seeing one of the strongest top 10s in a while. Still looking for Raonic, Nishikori, and Dimitrov to start battling their way in consistently. The rest of this year looks VERY good for tennis!
 
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