Is the WTA in serious trouble? Or just a blip?

Its been in trouble for a while. How many people could possibly be interested in the WTA? The ATP must be doing something behind closed doors just to keep that corpse afloat.. I mean the men's game is having "Big 3 hangover". If the men's game isn't doing nearly as well as it used to with interest, theres no way the WTA is doing well. They had that tournament in Dallas here a few months ago in the States, and what 40 people showed up? LOL!!!!
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
so this article complains that theres too many top players in the same tournament? :unsure:
what will they complain about next..
No, not really. It's more about the lack of tournaments - and opportunities at present - available for WTA players -- and Stuttgart only has a 24-player draw at that. Where are the options for even top 50 - let alone lower-ranked players - who want to play, move up in the rankings, make $, etc?
 

Purestriker

Legend
Its been in trouble for a while. How many people could possibly be interested in the WTA? The ATP must be doing something behind closed doors just to keep that corpse afloat.. I mean the men's game is having "Big 3 hangover". If the men's game isn't doing nearly as well as it used to with interest, theres no way the WTA is doing well. They had that tournament in Dallas here a few months ago in the States, and what 40 people showed up? LOL!!!!
There are a lot of tournaments where it is more interesting than the ATP.
 

big ted

Legend
There are a lot of tournaments where it is more interesting than the ATP.

the ATP is so low im starting to like WTA more. plus alot of the top WTA players are being consistent
in their results so its not such a rando name fest when you turn on the tv... AND i think ordinary hacks like us can learn
more watching WTA than ATP, since the way the men play is not even relatable to me at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
There have been recent weeks where there were 3 WTA tournaments the same week. In golf there's only one mens and one womens tournament a week, been that way for decades.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
This is why they are going back to a certain country where they said they wouldn't before. They need the money.

Their boycott was an empty, cost-free one as that country closed itself off. It re-opened and the WTA immediately re-joined. In any event, the WTA's problems are elsewhere.
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
The fact that there ade just 7 WTA tournaments on clay post Miami and in the build up to RG reflects very badly on the organisation. Even if Istanbul hadn't been cancelled, 8 tournaments still would have been insufficient. Now the WTA / women's tennis has never had a 'clay court' culture approaching that in men's tennis, but that is still bad. And the fact that the one tournament this week doesn't even have a full 32 player draw with 4 byes, just makes things even worse.

The general lack of tournaments and tournament spaces on the WTA side has been a big concern for quite a while.

I remember when Barbara Rittner approached the WTA with plans for a tournament in Cologne, but they didn't get back to her.

They have seemed like a pretty incompetent organisation to me for quite a while. The website is amateurish as well.

And hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I did think pre-pandemic the WTA went too far and too fast in terms of expanding in China and trying to desperately chase Chinese money - I personally wasn’t happy about Tokyo being downgraded in favour of Wuhan in-particular. The ATP maintained a much better balance than the WTA in terms of preserving (or trying to preserve) events in existing, established markets while also looking to tap into the lucrative Chinese market.
 
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Purestriker

Legend
Their boycott was an empty, cost-free one as that country closed itself off. It re-opened and the WTA immediately re-joined. In any event, the WTA's problems are elsewhere.
Yes, they took advantage of an opportunity. The reason they are struggling is how they are structured. They don't own all of the marquee tournaments that have lucrative television contracts and they have to rely on signing up sponsorships for tournaments to support the league. Totally different than most sports franchises where the sum is greater than the one.
 
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
The NFL incurred over $1 billion in debt last month and has been hit as hard as anyone by COVID and current financial woes. The ATP is the same. Not sure why singing out the WTA is important.



This is on point.
It is an attempt to sell a false, doomsday narrative about the WTA (for reasons having little to do with its survival), sans placing the organization's issues in the same kind of category as the other sports organizations you mentioned also dealing with troubles, especially the ATP.
The WTA will be fine. There have been hurdles to deal with - the war, Covid, Peng, but things will iron out eventually.
True.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The clay season seems to be bad for women's incomes, and so did the end of season with no Chinese tournaments. Clay and China will be long-term problems.
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
There is a Czech article indicating that the WTA are planning to ban top 30 players from entering 250 events from next year.


We'll wait and see whether they actually go ahead with this. However with this being the incompetent WTA administration, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's true and is on the cards.

In addition to the clear and deeply concerning lack of WTA tournaments and 250 events on the calendar (as others have said there are just not enough opportunities for WTA players in general and outside the top 50 to actually enter tournaments throughout the year, in an era when the lower level depth in the WTA is way better than it has even been) , this is a sure fire way to sabotage the ones that do exist, making it more difficult for them to attract local interest, stay afloat etc.

The WTA put themselves in a position in which they became hugely reliant on the Chinese market. Last year they absorbed all of the costs associated with hosting and running the YEC (i.e. the biggest event that they run on their calendar), meaning that they basically gave Fort Worth / Texas the event for free. That made the choice of host even more of a blunder.
 
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