Is there any reason to pick 90 square inch over 95?

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Guys, can you check that this is the correct pro staff 90 that I should be buying (2012 version): http://www.milletsports.co.uk/racke...pro-staff-six-one-90-blx-adult-tennis-racket/

I'm a little confused with the 'six one' addition to the name, I thought it was simply known as the 'pro staff 90'.

Actually, Wilson took the "Six-One 90" off the paint job/throat and just put the word "Ninety" on the throat for the 2013, to avoid the confusion they were getting.
 
Guys, can you check that this is the correct pro staff 90 that I should be buying (2012 version): 'WILSON Pro Staff Six.One 90 BLX Adult Tennis Racket'. Heres the image: http://products.milletsports.co.uk/y2011/m12/263918/45698427-b.jpg

I'm a little confused with the 'six one' addition to the name, I thought it was simply known as the 'pro staff 90'.

The picture here is actually the newest BLX 90 for 2013, because it doesn't have the words "Six-One 90" written on the throat.

2012
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2013

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Not advanced by any means. I'm a low-mid intermediate.

I'm serious about trying to improve though and I was thinking that if I get one of these racquets, then I should develop proper techniques rather than get away with bad practices which other racquets may allow.

Personally, I'd say go with 95, but not the Prostaff, but the BLX 95 which is almost as heavy as the 90 (and similar SW).

97 seems way too heavy...
 
Thats put me off a bit, getting the racquet of federer's worse year. But I'll get it anyway, it doesn't seem like I could get the 2012 version anywhere for as cheap.

The 2012 and 2013 are identical except for those words and Federer's play in a particular year has nothing to do with how that frame performs.

You could always buy the 2014 model of Pro Staff 90, I actually prefer it, except Roger didn't play with that one at all to my knowledge, so you wouldn't
like that racquet.
 
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So if you can hit a tennis ball perfectly fine with a 90, why do you need a 95? :confused:

LOL! You won't get a reasonable answer to that question, so don't hold your breath waiting for it.

It's like asking some of these posters to post a video of them hitting with their racquet of choice....chirp, chirp, chirp...crickets is all you hear.
 
You could always buy the 2014 model of Pro Staff 90, I actually prefer it.

It costs about 30-40% more from the websites I've been looking at.

And to be honest, I don't think I would notice the difference between the 2014 and 2012-2013 models. I'm a relative newbie to the game, a low-mid intermediate. I've never played with anything other than 100 square inch racquets. I'm not sure how this experiment would go with the 90, if I end up framing the ball constantly, I might have to ditch this whole idea and return to the 100 frames.
 
It costs about 30-40% more from the websites I've been looking at.

And to be honest, I don't think I would notice the difference between the 2014 and 2012-2013 models. I'm a relative newbie to the game, a low-mid intermediate. I've never played with anything other than 100 square inch racquets. I'm not sure how this experiment would go with the 90, if I end up framing the ball constantly, I might have to ditch this whole idea and return to the 100 frames.

If you can't feel the difference between the 2013 and the 2014, why are you "put off" by the painted word differences of the 2012-2013? Those two are identical in feel.
 
. I'm not sure how this experiment would go with the 90, if I end up framing the ball constantly, I might have to ditch this whole idea and return to the 100 frames.

You will be fine with the PS90.

Yesterday I hit with my Prestige Pro [98sq] a Dunlop Max 200g [84sq] and PS90 2014 [90sq]

I probably had more mishits with the Prestige Pro than I did the Max 200g or the PS90.

Reason: Stability is far more important than head size.
 
That's the one. Indeed. And to be more specific, this is a 2013 model, not a 2012, but it's essentially the exact same racquet.
Essentially.... except the 2013 model doesn't have kevlar and the 2014 model does. This is what the spec sheets say, what it states on the racquets and, to avoid all chance of ambiguity, has also been confirmed by Wilson's design department by the actual people who worked on those frames.
 
I do know said person's name and title Ric.

If you (still) think the previous iteration indeed contained kevlar make your case. So far you've done nothing other than be your usual specious self with the crap you post on this matter. My mailbox has a stream of messages from posters here laughing at how badly you've been owned on this.

In the meantime enjoy this from January 2014 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WbCb3GYmqI

What are you talking about? Your account isn't set up to receive e-mail.
 
What are you talking about? Your account isn't set up to receive e-mail.
It has already been established on this board that Bobby Jr. is a pathological liar. Which is why until he shows us real evidence, it's wise not to believe anything that he says on this matter. He claims he knows the title of the person that he corresponded with at Wilson, yet he won't tell us. Is there any reason you can think of why he's keeping it a secret? Other than that the person is a low level employee that probably has no clue what the composition of Tour 90s are so just looked it up in old Wilson brochures and replied to him?

No one from this board has e-mailed him about this. He only started posting about this about a week ago, so if his e-mail has been turned off for a month, how can anyone on this board have e-mailed him about this? About a month ago he claimed that he deleted his sig. nine months ago showing that he used the PS 6.0 85. Another complete lie as I had seen his sig only a month earlier, as had others. There are numerous examples of him not telling the truth.

Besides, the default is that all Tour 90s contain Kevlar, as that's what the great majority of people believe, so the onus is on him to show actual evidence that they do not. Not just him typing posts and saying so.
 
I just pointed out that no one has said you can not hit a tennis ball with a 90' racket, which you implied in post 35.
I implied no such thing in my Post #35:
Those who think you need a racquet bigger than 90 sq. in. to hit a tennis ball have never seen Jimmy Connors play with his 63 sq. in. T-2000. And he was playing against massive topspin from the likes of Borg and Vilas, and with the bad bounces of the old, skidding grass. And he won 109 singles tournaments. Not even Federer will ever come close to that. :shock:
If no one thought they needed a racquet bigger than a 90 to hit a tennis ball, then everyone would be using a racquet 90 sq. in. or smaller. wouldn't they? Yet, people who use 90s or smaller are a tiny minority, so obviously most people believe they need something bigger than a 90 to hit tennis balls.
 
Why is there such a big argument about the existence of kevlar in the 2012-2013 version of the 90?

is kevlar that big a deal?
 
Why is there such a big argument about the existence of kevlar in the 2012-2013 version of the 90?

is kevlar that big a deal?

Absolutely.

Because the Pro Staff racquets with Kevlar have a very unique feel something like wood yet with the power of Graphite / Carbon.

Racquets such as the PS95 that don't have the Kevlar feel pretty much like any other racquet.

That's not to say that Kevlar is the reason for the difference but in my experience at least the Pro Staff with Kevlar written on it feels better.
 
So is the conlcusion that if the 90 contains Kevlar one should upsize to 95 but an original kevlar-less 90 will play just as well as a Kevlar-laden 95?
 
So is the conlcusion that if the 90 contains Kevlar one should upsize to 95 but an original kevlar-less 90 will play just as well as a Kevlar-laden 95?

I would conclude that, one should play with the 2014 90 for a nice crisp feel or play with the 2012-13 BLX 90 for a softer cushier feel and avoid the flimsy 95, that needs lead all over the place, all together.
 
So is the conlcusion that if the 90 contains Kevlar one should upsize to 95 but an original kevlar-less 90 will play just as well as a Kevlar-laden 95?

The conclusion is that all Tour 90s contained kevlar and that the 90 will play great in stock, whereas the 95 needs a ton of lead to play well.
 
The conclusion is that all Tour 90s contained kevlar and that the 90 will play great in stock, whereas the 95 needs a ton of lead to play well.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought I remembered you said earlier in this thread that the 2012-2013 version didn't have kevlar.
 
I think you need to re-learn how to read English.

Again, if you CAN hit a tennis ball with a 90 perfectly well, why do you need a 95? Nowhere in that statement is any implication that you CANNOT hit a ball with a 90.

Could a 95 produce a better shot for (at least) some people than a 90 can?
 
Why is there such a big argument about the existence of kevlar in the 2012-2013 version of the 90?

is kevlar that big a deal?
No, it absolutely isn't. Supposedly the first Tour 90 had Kevlar in it yet it means nothing because that is by far the worst feeling racquet I have ever owned. I don't know if others have the same experience but to me Pro Staff has existed in name only for many, many years. The feel did get better subsequently but never came close to what it was.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought I remembered you said earlier in this thread that the 2012-2013 version didn't have kevlar.

I said no such thing. You're confusing me with Bobby Jr who believes Wilson's spec sheets which name only Basalt as part of the composition of the frame (just so you know, it is impossible to construct a tennis frame out of only basalt). All Tour 90s contain Kevlar and their similar feel shows that. The 2012/2013 Pro Staff 90 merely has Basalt added to the braided graphite/kevlar construction, which gives it a more dampened and plush feel, whereas the 2014 Pro Staff 90 has a more crisp feel.
 
It costs about 30-40% more from the websites I've been looking at.

And to be honest, I don't think I would notice the difference between the 2014 and 2012-2013 models. I'm a relative newbie to the game, a low-mid intermediate. I've never played with anything other than 100 square inch racquets. I'm not sure how this experiment would go with the 90, if I end up framing the ball constantly, I might have to ditch this whole idea and return to the 100 frames.

Hey yescomeon - what grip size are you looking for? if you'd be happy to try your experiment with a used PS 6.1 BLX 90 (2012 pj), grip size 4 1/2 (4) shoot me an e-mail quick to frinton(at)gmx(dot)ch. Alternatively, how about a BLX 6.1 90 (newer used) - is the black and red version? you are in the UK, right?
 
I said no such thing. You're confusing me with Bobby Jr who believes Wilson's spec sheets which name only Basalt as part of the composition of the frame (just so you know, it is impossible to construct a tennis frame out of only basalt). All Tour 90s contain Kevlar and their similar feel shows that. The 2012/2013 Pro Staff 90 merely has Basalt added to the braided graphite/kevlar construction, which gives it a more dampened and plush feel, whereas the 2014 Pro Staff 90 has a more crisp feel.

Thanks for the info. Sorry, I got confused in the midst of this debate :)
 
Hey yescomeon - what grip size are you looking for? if you'd be happy to try your experiment with a used PS 6.1 BLX 90 (2012 pj), grip size 4 1/2 (4) shoot me an e-mail quick to frinton(at)gmx(dot)ch. Alternatively, how about a BLX 6.1 90 (newer used) - is the black and red version? you are in the UK, right?

Thanks, but I've already ordered the 2012-13 version. Heres hoping it works for me
 
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