Is there anything Djokovic does better than Medvedev currently

UnforcedTerror

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Well seems like everyone agrees that Med is the much better player right now and Djokovic has nothing on him. Good luck to Djokovic tomorrow. He's gonna need it.
 
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I would say Djokovic has a better forehand and his serve has been particularly great these last few matches but overall I think Medvedev has had the better form these last few months for sure
 
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I must say i'm surprised people are so confident that medvedev will win. I think he has very good chances but djokovic didn't look bad against karatsev. Also this is the australian open final. I know that history doesn't mean much but he must be very confident after winning 8 finals here.
Medvedev is also prone to losses of concentration like we've seen for a while in the third set against tsitsipas and against thiem in the first set of the uso semifinal. I'm just hoping for a great match.
 
PETEhammer

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Street said:
I must say i'm surprised people are so confident that medvedev will win. I think he has very good chances but djokovic didn't look bad against karatsev. Also this is the australian open final. I know that history doesn't mean much but he must be very confident after winning 8 finals here.
Medvedev is also prone to losses of concentration like we've seen for a while in the third set against tsitsipas and against thiem in the first set of the uso semifinal. I'm just hoping for a great match.
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. You think Medvedev has the attitude of the OP and his cronies? lol
 
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Wander said:
Djokovic didn't look too bad against the Grand Slam main draw debutant ranked #114 in the world. Shocking.
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Well at some point in the match people were saying it was his 2019 AO final form which was obviously an exaggeration but i would take Djokovic who doesn't look bad against anyone in an AO final. Doesn't mean Medvedev won't win but i would rate it 55-45 for Djokovic before the match. Just my opinion of course.
 
Wander

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Street said:
Well at some point in the match people were saying it was his 2019 AO final form which was obviously an exaggeration but i would take Djokovic who doesn't look bad against anyone in an AO final. Doesn't mean Medvedev won't win but i would rate it 55-45 for Djokovic before the match. Just my opinion of course.
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I fully understand why people are swayed to favour Djokovic. History looms heavy, but I really believe in the mad lad in current form! 60-40 in Daniil's favour for me.
 
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UnforcedTerror said:
On the court for the last 3-4 months?

Serve; Medvedev
Return; Medvedev
Rallies; Medvedev
Defense; Medvedev
Offense; Medvedev
Stamina; Medvedev
Consistency; Medvedev
Backhand; Medvedev
Forehand; Medvedev/Equal

Form; Medvedev
Confidence; Medvedev
Experience; Djokovic
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Legend of Borg

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I mean yea Med's got a great shot at winning here but I wouldn't say he's THAT good where he's dominating every category listed

Fedalovic have intangible advantages that can't really be quantified i.e. mental strength, being able to switch gears, clutchness, focus etc. which I think will even out any technical disadvantages they have
 
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Why is there this narrative that Medvedev is the favorite? He’s playing the 8 time AO winner, currently the 2x defending champion, and the world number 1 player. Make no mistake about it, Medvedev is the underdog here.
 
vex

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UnforcedTerror said:
On the court for the last 3-4 months?

Serve; Medvedev
Return; Medvedev
Rallies; Medvedev
Defense; Medvedev
Offense; Medvedev
Stamina; Medvedev
Consistency; Medvedev
Backhand; Medvedev
Forehand; Medvedev/Equal

Form; Medvedev
Confidence; Medvedev
Experience; Djokovic
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What have you been watching to think Med’s serve is on par with Djokovic’s serve? Hitting slightly harder does not trump first serve accuracy and pressure created by second serves. Med hasn’t even sniffed Djokovic’s aces number at AO’21.

Also, Djokovic’s FH/BH remain better.

Med’s advantages come from movement, defense, consistency and endurance.
 
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UnforcedTerror said:
On the court for the last 3-4 months?

Serve; Medvedev
Return; Medvedev
Rallies; Medvedev
Defense; Medvedev
Offense; Medvedev
Stamina; Medvedev
Consistency; Medvedev
Backhand; Medvedev
Forehand; Medvedev/Equal

Form; Medvedev
Confidence; Medvedev
Experience; Djokovic
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Djokovic bounces the ball very well before he serves. A lot of precision and consistency with the continuous bounce. That’s the only thing I can think of. :unsure:

Oh and the boob throw salute of course, Djokovic has the edge with that too. 8-B
 
UnforcedTerror

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vex said:
What have you been watching to think Med’s serve is on par with Djokovic’s serve? Hitting slightly harder does not trump first serve accuracy and pressure created by second serves. Med hasn’t even sniffed Djokovic’s aces number at AO’21.

Also, Djokovic’s FH/BH remain better.

Med’s advantages come from movement, defense, consistency and endurance.
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Med won 81% of his first serves in the tournament while Djokovic won 77%. Med wins more points on second serve. No way Djokovic's serve is better.

Med's BH/FH are also more consistent and more solid than Nole's right now, especially the backhand.
 
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On that basis Djokovic might as well not turn up then. Let’s see what happens. It’s the slams where it matters. Medvedev is in form but he’s been on winning runs before and not be able to do it in the majors. One thing for sure we will get the real Djokovic tomorrow and not the lacklustre Djokovic at the world tour finals. For me if both bring it then it’s gonna be an epic but Novak will be very tough to beat in a tournament he’s owned in finals for years and with his experience. Until proven otherwise djoker is the king and Medvedev still the pretender to the throne.
 
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can hit harder off both wings when he wants to, with more angles...generally i think his aggression redline off the ground is a lot higher when he goes for it, and i think this might make a big difference if he can execute.
 
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Med has been more impressive form wise but this is a GS - final. D is a mental giant for a good reason but despite that I predict Med in 4. And veryyyyyy long match between the walls.
 
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UnforcedTerror said:
How did history help Petros here?



Expect something similar tomorrow from the other Russian.
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That 2000 Final offers evidence that wins of this sort (emerging superstar defeats aging all-timer) don't necessarily indicate a changing of the guard.

Sampras beat Safin at the same tournament the next year in straight sets, then won the tournament the following year. Meanwhile, Safin never made another Final. So while history didn't help Pete on that night, it was still a pretty good indicator of who'd succeed there beyond that year.

If Medvedev wins tonight, fair play to him -- he'll have earned it. And we'll see if he can do it again. And again. And again...
 
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UnforcedTerror said:
Med won 81% of his first serves in the tournament while Djokovic won 77%. Med wins more points on second serve. No way Djokovic's serve is better.

Med's BH/FH are also more consistent and more solid than Nole's right now, especially the backhand.
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Guess we’ll see. I’ve watched them both play. Med’s serve has been fine but not approaching the accuracy that Djoker has had. That’s not why Med is winning those points.

Med’s FH/BH are objectively worse than Djoker’s. Djoker is FAR more accurate and able to dictate than Med. Again, not the reason Med’s winning points. He’s winning points because he’s reached a crazy peak level of defense. Med puts a shocking number of “meh” rally balls back up the middle. It’s just that no one can hit through him or past his range.
 
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Djokovic playing at the best level he showed early last year has better groundstrokes and returns than Medvedev while moving equally well. The problem is that we haven’t seen that Novak ever since the virus shutdown. Now, he is good only in parts of a match and unable to be consistently good throughout a long match against top ranked opponents as he goes through phases where he is either very passive or gets super-aggressive and sprays errors. Let’s see if being in an AO final revives him to get back to what he has looked like for most of the last decade.
 
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UnforcedTerror said:
On the court for the last 3-4 months?

Serve; Medvedev
Return; Medvedev
Rallies; Medvedev
Defense; Medvedev
Offense; Medvedev
Stamina; Medvedev
Consistency; Medvedev
Backhand; Medvedev
Forehand; Medvedev/Equal

Form; Medvedev
Confidence; Medvedev
Experience; Djokovic
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More gracious in defeat, though it is very close.
 
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