Is this a hindrance?

QuadCam

Professional
There's a guy i come across in league play. In doubles, when his team is returning serve but he is not the returner, he will move right up to the service T during the service motion. It seems to be an intentional move some at distracting the server. He does it every time. It used to bug me but now i ignore it.

I've never called him out on it but was thinking of friendly warning him about a possible hindrance and that someone's going to call him out on it.

I've never played with him, only against him.

When it used to bother me, i often thought about sending up a brush back serve, though.

So, is it a hindrance?
 

Max G.

Legend
Depends. Hard to say based on your description. Positioning himself near the T isn't a hindrance at all. Intentionally moving around during the service motion to distract the opponent would be a hindrance. However you're allowed to reposition at any time, so maybe he just wants to get momentum going in that direction for some reason. In general, that's a hard call to make, unless he's REALLY obvious about it, like waving his hands or jumping into the service box or whatever.
 

QuadCam

Professional
I think he's been doing it do long that it's just his usually behavior now, but he does wave the racquet around when doing it.
 
I think he's been doing it do long that it's just his usually behavior now, but he does wave the racquet around when doing it.
Waving his racquet around is definitely a hindrance; standing near his partner's service box is not. If you can manage a T serve, the returner's angle will actually be decreased by his own partner [unless the partner can leap out of the way].
 

5sets

Professional
I think he's been doing it do long that it's just his usually behavior now, but he does wave the racquet around when doing it.
Lol, is this a joke? Obviously that's not allowed

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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
If he's waving his racket or stomping his feet, it's an intentional hindrance. Your point. If he's just repositioning, then it shouldn't bother you since you are looking at the ball toss... hopefully.
 

dman72

Hall of Fame
If someone was doing that to me during a USTA match, I'd first caution him that it isn't cool. If it continues, he's getting a hard flat serve aimed right at him when the score is in my teams favor.

In a friendly match, it would probably just be a lot of ribbing from everyone involved.
 

bcart1991

Professional
I've taken a point from someone for that once in the past.

He was shuffling his feet noisily while my partner was serving. He tried to play it like he was getting into position, but his feet never moved more that a foot total. He didn't like it, but he stopped it.
 

bcart1991

Professional
I've taken a point from someone for that once in the past.

He was shuffling his feet noisily while my partner was serving. He tried to play it like he was getting into position, but his feet never moved more that a foot total. He didn't like it, but he stopped it.
 

MisterP

Hall of Fame
Hard to say. From the way you're describing it, it sounds like it might be something that is intended to hinder. I played against a guy a few years back who would dive bomb the T every time his partner returned. Like start in a position in NML and then as the server went into his service motion the guy would lunge toward the T and stop just short of crossing into the service box. I called him on it, and he said that was "just how I split step", which of course is BS, but we let it slide.
 

QuadCam

Professional
Hard to say. From the way you're describing it, it sounds like it might be something that is intended to hinder. I played against a guy a few years back who would dive bomb the T every time his partner returned. Like start in a position in NML and then as the server went into his service motion the guy would lunge toward the T and stop just short of crossing into the service box. I called him on it, and he said that was "just how I split step", which of course is BS, but we let it slide.
That is pretty much what he does but with some added arm movements. Next time i see him play, i may film it just so he can see it.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Do a few toss and catch when the player does this. That should disrupt that guy's timing. FWIW, a split step does not move that much. It basically is Up-and-Down. Also to answer OP, it is a hindrance if they wave their racquet or make noise. They can certainly stand there, but anything done to distract the server is a hindrance.

edit:
35. Body movement. A player may feint with the body while a ball is in play. A
player may change position at any time, including while the server is tossing a ball.
Any other movement or any sound that is made solely to distract an opponent,
including, but not limited to, waving arms or racket or stamping feet, is not allowed.
 
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pennc94

Professional
Not technically a hindrance but surely bush league. Just throw him a little “chin music” and it should correct itself.


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gmatheis

Hall of Fame
Where he stands not a hindrance, waving the racquet is a hindrance.

I'd probably hit him with a serve if it's obvious that he's trying to distract the server.
 

stapletonj

Hall of Fame
moving around, split stepping and it makes a squeak, not a hindrance.

waving arms or racket during service motion - hindrance, your point. every.single.time.
 
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