is this legal for USTA?

comeback

Hall of Fame
i couldn't find anything else on bringing a non electronic health/fitness device (calf stretcher) like this and using it between games during a USTA match etc
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=medi-dyne+pro+stretch&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=90957052927&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10235744287140721032&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_5js7575m26_b

USTA Comment 30.1: A player may bring to the court written notes that were prepared before the start of the match and may read these notes during the match. A player may not use electronic devices such as cell phones, digital messaging systems, radios, mp3 players, cd and dvd players, cassette players, and any device capable of receiving communication. Hearing aids and watches not capable of receiving messages are permitted. A player desiring to use any other electronic device should first ask the Referee whether the device may be used.
 

esgee48

Legend
Seems to be the only place which could qualify the device. However, you still have to get the permission of the referee and that person for reasons known only to them may refuse its use.

I can see the other player(s) saying it is medical treatment even though you can say it is preventative (prevents cramps?) I think you need to look at whether you can use such a device to avoid having to use a medical time out. During match play, this is a 'loss of condition' and you get the trainer to come out to work on the cramps. However, I do not know whether it is OK to actively prevent them. To me (or your opponent), you should not be able to resort to a device like this during play even if you know you may suffer cramps. You are suppose to be in condition to avoid it via hydration, diet, whatever. 2 cents.

Maybe you should specifically ask Woodrow or Jlyon their thoughts.
 

mikeler

Moderator
If it is not explicitly prohibited, you should be fine. I can't imagine somebody having a problem with that but then again you never know.
 

PBODY99

Legend
i couldn't find anything else on bringing a non electronic health/fitness device (calf stretcher) like this and using it between games during a USTA match etc
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=medi-dyne+pro+stretch&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=90957052927&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10235744287140721032&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_5js7575m26_b

USTA Comment 30.1: A player may bring to the court written notes that were prepared before the start of the match and may read these notes during the match. A player may not use electronic devices such as cell phones, digital messaging systems, radios, mp3 players, cd and dvd players, cassette players, and any device capable of receiving communication. Hearing aids and watches not capable of receiving messages are permitted. A player desiring to use any other electronic device should first ask the Referee whether the device may be used.
Yes, so long as you keep to the time limit.
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
Yes, so long as you keep to the time limit.
so really anything you do non electronic or without a 3rd party is legal as long as it's within 90 seconds..here are some more:
using ice
massaging with theraputic creme
applying lubricant to your strings
skipping rope
doing pushups
yoga type handstands
laying on your back
taking laps around the court
mixing a powdered drink concoction
standing on the bench doing calf stretches
eating smelly Chinese food LOL
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
I wouldn't have any issues as long as my opponent wasn't taking any extra time on the changeovers.
 
Last edited:
It would never even occur to me to complain about an opponent using such a device. I've seen all kinds of devices for fitness/stretching used:

- A rolling-pin like stick that works well on calves and IT bands
- An exercise band for the shoulder
- A foam roller
- A jump rope

I mean, if someone is going to complain about those devices, why can't they complain about a knee brace or a tennis elbow band or a copper bracelet or a hearing aid?
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
I mean, if someone is going to complain about those devices, why can't they complain about a knee brace or a tennis elbow band or a copper bracelet or a hearing aid?
I've been wearing a groin wrap/brace this winter. No complaints but I get some funny looks when I adjust it!


I wouldn't have any issues and long as my opponent wasn't taking any extra time on the changeovers.
This. Who cares?
 
I've seen the calf stretchers used during USTA matches, no one complained. Really, you can do the same thing without the device using a standing calf stretch (http://renaissancerehabkamloops.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Calf-Stretch-with-Foot-on-Wall-Medium.png), so why would it matter if you use one?
Agreed, I'd figure out some calf stretch that doesn't require the device. I've got enough stuff in my bag to haul around, the space would be better used for an extra pair of shoes. I used to have one of these a few decades ago in my running days (but I didn't take it running with me), I used it a few times and after that it became a not too efficient dusty door stop.
 

storypeddler

Semi-Pro
Seems to be the only place which could qualify the device. However, you still have to get the permission of the referee and that person for reasons known only to them may refuse its use.

I can see the other player(s) saying it is medical treatment even though you can say it is preventative (prevents cramps?) I think you need to look at whether you can use such a device to avoid having to use a medical time out. During match play, this is a 'loss of condition' and you get the trainer to come out to work on the cramps. However, I do not know whether it is OK to actively prevent them. To me (or your opponent), you should not be able to resort to a device like this during play even if you know you may suffer cramps. You are suppose to be in condition to avoid it via hydration, diet, whatever. 2 cents.

Maybe you should specifically ask Woodrow or Jlyon their thoughts.
Well---I'm not sure why this should be any different than allowing you to eat a banana or drink a lot of water on changeovers to help prevent cramps. Those things are certainly legal. Could you pull a rope from your bag and jump rope during changeovers to stay loose? Yes. Why should this be any different?
 

storypeddler

Semi-Pro
I've been wearing a groin wrap/brace this winter. No complaints but I get some funny looks when I adjust it!




This. Who cares?
Do you offer to shake hands with opponents right after adjusting the groin wrap? That might be one explanation for the funny looks. ;)
 

coloskier

Legend
They are banned in most Malaysian hotels...... 2nd worst stink I have ever smelled, after the Malaysian concoction of rotted shrimp that has been buried for a month and then fried on a grill. But the durian fruit does taste good if you can stand the smell. Even worse than Kimchi.
I don't think kimchee smells bad at all. Durian, OTOH, smells like rotting garbage.
 
We are a kimchee household. In terms of odor, there is a broad range, depending on how ripe it is, how much shrimp paste and/or fish sauce was used in the making, etc...
I've heard one person describe fish sauce as smelling like wet socks.

I love fish sauce although the stuff straight out of the bottle is admittedly pretty pungent. I'm thinking more along the lines of including it in a dish.
 
Top