Is this the résumé of an open era great on clay?

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
In the end Nadal won Wimbledon twice and reached the Wimbledon final 5 times. Federer won the French Open once, and reached the French Open final 5 times. It would take atleast 3 extra finals to make up for 1 less title.

It would not.
Even 2 finals played for 2 titles is > to 10 finals played for 1 title.

Otherwise, Roddick would be really happy right now :lol:
 

President

Legend
Because he said he won't come back at Wimbledon for a while? This place still haunts him

Do you have a link to that story? I believe you, but I'm interested in seeing his exact words and the context behind them. If true, I feel bad for Andy. Everyone knows how painful it is to repeatedly try to do something and fail at it.
 

Fiji

Legend
5 French Open finals

1 French Open title

5 consecutive french Open Semi Finals

9 Consecutive French Open Quater Finals

6 Clay Masters 1000 titles

Bagelled the great Rafael Nadal in a Masters final on clay en-route to victory in the final (A lot of people forget this one!)

What do you think?
Definitely a great player on clay.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Define open era great. He scrapes the bottom of the top 10 in the Open Era in my opinion.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Define open era great. He scrapes the bottom of the top 10 in the Open Era in my opinion.

According to some posters Chang was more dominant on clay, cuz he didn't lose any finals and won at very early age and had tougher draw.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Not when you consider the depth of the clay field for the past 10 years:shock:

There is what? Maybe 3-4 decent to good dirt ballers, and 1 great dirt baller today?

Thats pathetic when you put it up against the fields of the 80s and 90s

Who are those decent dirt ballers? Weaponless Ferrer and ChokeMagro, who don't have 1 win vs Fed?

There is one great dirt baler and two average ones Fed and Nole who feast on the weak field.
 

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
Do you have a link to that story? I believe you, but I'm interested in seeing his exact words and the context behind them. If true, I feel bad for Andy. Everyone knows how painful it is to repeatedly try to do something and fail at it.

arf that was a quote that i read during Wimbledon 2014 but i can't find it anymore
 
Not when you consider the depth of the clay field for the past 10 years:shock:

There is what? Maybe 3-4 decent to good dirt ballers, and 1 great dirt baller today?

Thats pathetic when you put it up against the fields of the 80s and 90s

if there's only 3-4 decent dirtballer, then how can nadal be considered great then? by your own definition he's just slightly above average. not great.

so today, we have 3-4 decent guys, and 1 guy slightly better (ie: good player) than those 4 guys.
 
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tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
He played Wimbledon thrice after his 2009 loss. Not sure where you got that quote from.

lol you don't seem to understand Mayonnaise, he said he won't be coming back at Wimbledon as a retired player, and this for a while, he was asked this in 2014 (the quote was during Wimbledon 2014), not sure why you make a deal about it.
 

Revenant

Banned
lol you don't seem to understand Mayonnaise, he said he won't be coming back at Wimbledon as a retired player, and this for a while, he was asked this in 2014 (the quote was during Wimbledon 2014), not sure why you make a deal about it.

Oh, great. Not wasting my time on you. And yeah, you probably just made that up.
 

eldanger25

Hall of Fame
I think he's bottom of the Top 10 Open Era right now. An Open Era great now on clay, but maybe swept away with the tide into Top 20 or so in the coming decades.

I think Roger would be more securely an Open Era great on clay if (1) he had one or more of the traditional slow clay titles at Rome or MC, and (2) if he'd been a bit more competitive in the RG finals he reached against Nadal (2011 semi-excluded, and with a nod to the first set 2006, which was the only time he ever had even a 1 set lead over Nadal in their 5 matches in Paris).

Still a wonderful resume.
 
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