Is this unjust?

AHJS

Professional
Okay so I had an incident this weekend with a USTA ref.
I was playing and my opponent made a bs call, so i turned to the fence and said relatively quietly "why can't he call the f-ing lines in?" The official overhead I guess and coded me right off the bat. No warning or anything. Then I turn to a family member who was spectating and said "she the one who screwed me over in the last tournament" then the codes me for a game.
Not only that, but the next game my opponent shouts "f*ck" and then smashes his racket to bits with the same official staring at him while he does it, and he gets nothing, not even a warning. Is this just me or is it strange that I got harshly penalized and he got off the hook easily?
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Sounds like she remembered you and has the "small man" syndrome.

It amazes me how many people like her, who have never had any position of power before, suddenly like to weld it with such lack of restraint.

Sorry it happened on the court, but these small people exist in life outside of tennis unfortunately.
 

AHJS

Professional
Sounds like she remembered you and has the "small man" syndrome.

It amazes me how many people who have never had any position of power suddenly like to weld it with such lack of restraint.

Sorry it happened on the court, but these small people exist in life outside of tennis unfortunately.
She certainly remembered me!
I am glad you agree that she abused the power she had, because that was certainly my belief on the issue.
It's alright, I ended up pulling out the victory anyways :)
 

esgee48

Legend
Learn to be profane in another language. Or be more ethnic like 'Son of a She Goat', 'He is an Ape, his Momma hung around with Tarzan' or 'His eyes are so good, he would call his balls in by by 1 mm on my baseline. Yet he can't see his own baseline.' Defuses your anger and the officials can't do anything about it.

If you remember the official's name, write to the USTA section head complaining about the unequal treatment. Then ask for an explanation why there was no warning.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
You need to look at adult USTA tournaments as a party rather than a gladiatorial contest. You can get all worked up or just relax and enjoy, up to you.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
Sounds like you're known for these types of antics. If you're known as a "problem player" you will get coded a lot. The fact that you said "she's the one who screwed me over last time" (pulling a Serena) gives me reason to believe that there is history here and that we're not hearing the whole story. Also, if there are roaming refs, then you know you have to be extra careful. Why would you even take the chance of getting a code by behaving poorly if you know there is a ref watching? It's like the guys who speed through a police checkpoint, then, after they get pulled over, try to say something like "that guy next to me was going WAYYYY faster." and then saying "dont you people have anything else better to do?"

Do you really think you're going to help the situation by behaving poorly, receiving a penalty, then "abusing the ref" thinking that nothing is going to happen?

If you're a young kid, expect to be coded a lot for bad behavior in junior tennis. If you're an older player, you better start behaving, because the rules are a lot more lax... unless you're a "known problem".
 

AHJS

Professional
Sounds like you're known for these types of antics. If you're known as a "problem player" you will get coded a lot. The fact that you said "she's the one who screwed me over last time" (pulling a Serena) gives me reason to believe that there is history here and that we're not hearing the whole story. Also, if there are roaming refs, then you know you have to be extra careful. Why would you even take the chance of getting a code by behaving poorly if you know there is a ref watching? It's like the guys who speed through a police checkpoint, then, after they get pulled over, try to say something like "that guy next to me was going WAYYYY faster." and then saying "dont you people have anything else better to do?"

Do you really think you're going to help the situation by behaving poorly, receiving a penalty, then "abusing the ref" thinking that nothing is going to happen?

If you're a young kid, expect to be coded a lot for bad behavior in junior tennis. If you're an older player, you better start behaving, because the rules are a lot more lax... unless you're a "known problem".
Yes there is a history. She overruled 2 calls of mine and gave my a code violation for "disagreeing in an overreactive way" even though I didn't get profane or anything. I didn't see her when she was apparently watching us behind a fence with a windscreen. I think it was more than that police checkpoint analogy. The police man would have a very difficult time pulling both cars over and it is generally not done that way. She looked right him after he did this right after. That would be more of the analogy of a car gets a speeding ticket, and then 10 minutes later another car comes going as fast, if not faster, but the police man chooses not to pull them over.

Yes this is junior tennis and the refs are far harsher on the juniors, because they are adults and we are kids and I think they need to feel in charge and feel they have to make their voice heard and presence known.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
Yes there is a history. She overruled 2 calls of mine and gave my a code violation for "disagreeing in an overreactive way" even though I didn't get profane or anything. I didn't see her when she was apparently watching us behind a fence with a windscreen. I think it was more than that police checkpoint analogy. The police man would have a very difficult time pulling both cars over and it is generally not done that way. She looked right him after he did this right after. That would be more of the analogy of a car gets a speeding ticket, and then 10 minutes later another car comes going as fast, if not faster, but the police man chooses not to pull them over.

Yes this is junior tennis and the refs are far harsher on the juniors, because they are adults and we are kids and I think they need to feel in charge and feel they have to make their voice heard and presence known.
The ref "maybe" should have coded the other person, but given your posts in this thread, I can see why they might code you every chance they get vs. someone else who doesnt behave badly. This is assuming that the story you told about the other player is 100% true. What would make me think you wouldnt lie so that you could play the "victim" here?

-You "disagreed" with a line call in a way that made an official code you. (never seen a code for that in my life)
-You then swear at your opponent, saying "he cant call the f-ing lines in" (which is not the same thing as swearing in general)
-You then claim the ref "screwed you over last time" therefore abusing the referee.

You dont see why your behavior makes you an easy target for codes? And why an official may allegedly turn a blind eye when someone else does it to you? If your opponent did indeed swear, and it wasnt really directed at anyone, and if racket/ball abuse happens, it doesnt mean it has to be a code.

I dont think the problem is with the official. I think the problem is with you. These are all conduct related violations.
 

Ihatetennis

Hall of Fame
Hahaha

There seem to be the worst refs in this past tournament

All I know is that I've heard more players and parents file complaints than at any tournament I've seen
 

AHJS

Professional
The ref "maybe" should have coded the other person, but given your posts in this thread, I can see why they might code you every chance they get vs. someone else who doesnt behave badly. This is assuming that the story you told about the other player is 100% true. What would make me think you wouldnt lie so that you could play the "victim" here?

-You "disagreed" with a line call in a way that made an official code you. (never seen a code for that in my life)
-You then swear at your opponent, saying "he cant call the f-ing lines in" (which is not the same thing as swearing in general)
-You then claim the ref "screwed you over last time" therefore abusing the referee.

You dont see why your behavior makes you an easy target for codes? And why an official may allegedly turn a blind eye when someone else does it to you? If your opponent did indeed swear, and it wasnt really directed at anyone, and if racket/ball abuse happens, it doesnt mean it has to be a code.

I dont think the problem is with the official. I think the problem is with you. These are all conduct related violations.
Well, I wouldn't lie, because its exactly what happened. Why would I lie about something as trivial as that in an internet thread? Take my word or not, why should I care.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Pretty harsh to call the OP a liar. He admitted he screwed up and it costs him.

Seems he was simply stating the official was pretty lopsided and uneven in the coding. If a player drops an F Bomb and cracks a racquet on the ground after the official coded the opponent twice for seemingly less, the OP has a point.

Did the OP make mistakes ? Yes and he admitted that. What does he have to gain from a lie on this forum? Empathy or Hate don't make him grow.

Sounds like he leaned a lesson and was simply asking does the official seem unjust in coding him and not the other player.

There is no reason to attack the OP calling him a liar.
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
AHJS, sounds like she has a problem with you from the last tournament and cannot let it go.

Just curious, did your opponent break his racket ??
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
So you dumped a game but you probably won 6-2 instead of 6-1 ???
If they guy made more than one bad call I would be irritated but sometimes one bad call is accident.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
Well, I wouldn't lie, because its exactly what happened. Why would I lie about something as trivial as that in an internet thread? Take my word or not, why should I care.
Because teens lie about anything, even when they dont have to, and even when it is something "trivial".

This is either a case of the worst ump who is out to get you for no reason at all...

or,

A teenager trying to get empathy by playing the victim.

-You had to have two of your line calls overruled.
-You got coded for "disagreeing" which is not a code unless you refuse to play and didnt drop it after being told to do so.
-You swear at your opponent saying "why cant he call the f-ing lines in?"
-You then "abuse" the ref by saying "she screwed you over last time." trying to play victim with the spectators.
-You then claim that adults are "out to get you" because you're a kid.

A ref out to get you? Or, a teenager behaving more or less like a teenager?

@g4driver

He did not admit he was wrong. The closest he admits that his conduct was bad is "Is this just me or is it strange that I got harshly penalized and he got off the hook easily."
 
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g4driver

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the way I read it was he wrote what he did, which I took as it was wrong on his part. If he admitted he made two comments that got him coded, I took that as an admission of his mistake, then wanted to know if it was unjust the opponent wasn't coded also.

I am a novice dealing with teenagers. That sounds like a good thing after reading your comments on teens who lie. ;) Simply don't have any in my house. But we kid sit the ten and under neighbors kids quite often.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
It has rained here for 7 straight days- flooding and loss of lives, homes and all kind of property. Looking forward to seeing the sun shine in Charleston, SC for the first time in a week.

First a racist killing nine innocent people in a church here, then the rain and flooding.

These two events puts minor tennis issues in an inconsequential place in my life. Being trapped inside for days has made me long to be unplugged for a while.
 
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Max G.

Legend
Yeah... look, maybe it was unjust, maybe not.

But you did
1) Curse at your opponent
2) Badmouth the umpire
3) Already got her attention for arguing about line calls (to the point of a code) the previous tournament

Can't you just... cool it for a while? Don't curse at opponents or argue with umpires. And all these problems go away.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
the way I read it was he wrote what he did, which I took as it was wrong on his part. If he admitted he made two comments that got him coded, I took that as an admission of his mistake, then wanted to know if it was unjust the opponent wasn't coded also.

I am a novice dealing with teenagers. That sounds like a good thing after reading your comments on teens who lie. ;) Simply don't have any in my house. But we kid sit the ten and under neighbors kids quite often.
Not every kid is bad, dont get me wrong... but the juniors on my JTT team havnt been coded except on rare occasion. When I hear a story about being coded multiple times in the same game I cant hardly believe it's the ref. Yes, ref's blow it all the time, but they usually blow it in such a way that it's neutral and natural. Any time a ref is "targeting" someone it's usually because that kid is known for misbehaving, or the captain encourages it, or turns a blind eye on it. It's very common during multiple day tournaments for refs to discuss problem players/parents before the second day, warning the other officials to keep an eye on them.

The reason why im coming down so hard is because it's easy for kids to rationalize their bad behavior by pointing out others bad behavior. He should fix his own behavior, and if he doesnt get out of line, he cant be coded for anything. We should not encourage him to violate the code and then complain when there is not equal amount of punishment.

Some people kill and get 0 time.
Some people kill and get 15 years.
Some people kill and get consecutive life sentences.

We shouldnt blame the system for not giving out life sentences for everyone who kills. We should encourage people not to kill.
 

wings56

Hall of Fame
Okay so I had an incident this weekend with a USTA ref.
I was playing and my opponent made a bs call, so i turned to the fence and said relatively quietly "why can't he call the f-ing lines in?" The official overhead I guess and coded me right off the bat. No warning or anything. Then I turn to a family member who was spectating and said "she the one who screwed me over in the last tournament" then the codes me for a game.
Not only that, but the next game my opponent shouts "f*ck" and then smashes his racket to bits with the same official staring at him while he does it, and he gets nothing, not even a warning. Is this just me or is it strange that I got harshly penalized and he got off the hook easily?
I think it is some of both. Because of the history, she clearly had a hairpin trigger for you. It does sound like she was right (at least this time) for both codes. A language code can be made without warning, and I can definitely understand a code for clearly disrespecting her in a public way.

Looking at the incident from your opponent, a ref is not required to give a penalty for racquet abuse or language on a first offense. She was within her right to let that go.

The problem comes because both happened on the same court. You have to think of this as in her eyes you have already been warned... albeit in a previous match... whereas this is a first offense from your opponent.

Personally, I see both sides of this. Had you not acted up in the first place, you would not have been put in the situation. Bottom line, you were deserving of both codes.
You cannot control how the ref acts for your opponent, but you can control how you act for yourself.
I would be extremely frustrated if I was in your position. Precedence would say that your opponent deserves a penalty as well...However, you still did break the rules, and the ref was on high alert due to previous actions.
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Based on his previous post- he seems like a nice kid.

If his opponent only made a single bad call then you just have to move on; rather if he was doing all the time or more than once.
 

RetroSpin

Hall of Fame
She certainly remembered me!
I am glad you agree that she abused the power she had, because that was certainly my belief on the issue.
It's alright, I ended up pulling out the victory anyways :)
She obviously remembered you from the last tournament and wasn't through with you. That's why she was lurking outside your fence, just waiting for her chance.

Is it fair? Obviously not. Could you make an issue of it with your section or the USTA? Probably, but they will side with her. I guarantee it. Why not use it as a learning experience instead?

Stop doing things that give her or anyone else power over you. She might have overstepped, but technically she had you. You used an obscenity, then you made a disparaging remark about her. Now you're in danger of developing a reputation as a foul-mouthed, disrespectful hothead. How does that help you? Is that the rep you want?
 

AHJS

Professional
I think it is some of both. Because of the history, she clearly had a hairpin trigger for you. It does sound like she was right (at least this time) for both codes. A language code can be made without warning, and I can definitely understand a code for clearly disrespecting her in a public way.

Looking at the incident from your opponent, a ref is not required to give a penalty for racquet abuse or language on a first offense. She was within her right to let that go.

The problem comes because both happened on the same court. You have to think of this as in her eyes you have already been warned... albeit in a previous match... whereas this is a first offense from your opponent.

Personally, I see both sides of this. Had you not acted up in the first place, you would not have been put in the situation. Bottom line, you were deserving of both codes.
You cannot control how the ref acts for your opponent, but you can control how you act for yourself.
I would be extremely frustrated if I was in your position. Precedence would say that your opponent deserves a penalty as well...However, you still did break the rules, and the ref was on high alert due to previous actions.
Agreed. While I did act up and I fully admit to it, at least you can see how I could feel that I was unfairly treated.
 

AHJS

Professional
She obviously remembered you from the last tournament and wasn't through with you. That's why she was lurking outside your fence, just waiting for her chance.

Is it fair? Obviously not. Could you make an issue of it with your section or the USTA? Probably, but they will side with her. I guarantee it. Why not use it as a learning experience instead?

Stop doing things that give her or anyone else power over you. She might have overstepped, but technically she had you. You used an obscenity, then you made a disparaging remark about her. Now you're in danger of developing a reputation as a foul-mouthed, disrespectful hothead. How does that help you? Is that the rep you want?
At least you agree it wasn't fair, and my suspicions about her just waiting for her chance to screw me over was accurate.
Its strange, some refs love me. They are generally the younger ones who are more lax with the rules. The older snooty refs pretty much all hate me already. They will mess with me for the dumbest stuff. I once placed my racket on the court, walked back to the fence to towel off and was warned to keep the racket in my hand and if I did it again I would be coded. Like WTF?!?! In other words, I sorta already have a rep...
 

Court Karma

Rookie
If my kid was swearing like that and disrespecting officials he would have to deal with The Momerator. And I can assure you that would be a far less pleasant experience than being docked a game in a tennis match. That kind of behavior reflects poorly on you and your entire family. You sound like a smart kid. You should want something better.
 

goran_ace

Hall of Fame
If the ref remembered you from a previous incident she is just going to be watching you closer. I had a similar experience back in juniors. Every time this one ref would be out there she'd watch me like a hawk waiting for me to do something. But I probably deserved it and I pushed it knowing I was being watched. You acted in a way that deserves a code violation. It doesn't matter that your opponent did something similar and didn't get penalized. Forget about fair. People hate hearing teenagers complain that something's not fair. A lot of things in life aren't fair. You aren't going to get off her radar by continuing to draw attention to yourself. If she's working your next tournament, swallow your pride and be on your best behavior.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
At least you agree it wasn't fair, and my suspicions about her just waiting for her chance to screw me over was accurate.
Its strange, some refs love me. They are generally the younger ones who are more lax with the rules. The older snooty refs pretty much all hate me already. They will mess with me for the dumbest stuff. I once placed my racket on the court, walked back to the fence to towel off and was warned to keep the racket in my hand and if I did it again I would be coded. Like WTF?!?! In other words, I sorta already have a rep...
How many times did you "place" your racket down between points I wonder....

I towel off between points too, and my racket doesnt leave my hands. The only time my racket leaves my hands is during a change over. Simple fix.

You should really change your focus from "was it fair?" to "how can I fix this?". You recognize that the refs who are more"lax" with the rules you seem to get along with. This illustrates to me that you get along better with people who let you break the rules. Rules dont apply to you?

Now it comes out that these "older snotty refs" "hate you" and they "mess with you". You should change your "rep" from a bad one to a positive one.

I hope when you turn 25 you will look back at your behavior and wonder how you could have acted that way. People with this mentality who do not change in their adult life do not end up in a good place, even if they end up with lots of money.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
At least you agree it wasn't fair, and my suspicions about her just waiting for her chance to screw me over was accurate.
Its strange, some refs love me. They are generally the younger ones who are more lax with the rules. The older snooty refs pretty much all hate me already. They will mess with me for the dumbest stuff. I once placed my racket on the court, walked back to the fence to towel off and was warned to keep the racket in my hand and if I did it again I would be coded. Like WTF?!?! In other words, I sorta already have a rep...
What Section are you in because I truly do find this hard to believe there are officials this hard-up just to pick on kids.
Unfortunately you appear to have a reputation and that is a hard thing to get fixed and word of mouth travels quickly
 

Jonboy

Rookie
LOL, I think your past antics have marked you as a problem child. Just smile and give her a little wink next time.
 

RetroSpin

Hall of Fame
I know you won't do this but the best thing you could do if this official is a regular at your tournaments would be to approach her and say you are afraid she and you got off on the wrong foot and you want to apologize for being rude.

See, it's not about fair or unfair, it's about who has power over you. Why would you want to have someone who can hurt you be angry at you? What does that possibly gain you?
 

AHJS

Professional
What Section are you in because I truly do find this hard to believe there are officials this hard-up just to pick on kids.
Unfortunately you appear to have a reputation and that is a hard thing to get fixed and word of mouth travels quickly
Texas Section. Word of mouth within the same city travels fast I agree. Refs seem to grossly exaggerate the things I do in their "formal write ups." For example, I threw a ball over the fence with my hand after losing a match. I got a code for that, and in the write up she said "Screamed and high a ball extremely high and fast towards his opponent."
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
Texas Section. Word of mouth within the same city travels fast I agree. Refs seem to grossly exaggerate the things I do in their "formal write ups." For example, I threw a ball over the fence with my hand after losing a match. I got a code for that, and in the write up she said "Screamed and high a ball extremely high and fast towards his opponent."
Do you really think we believe that the ref added in the scream when it didnt happen? And the bit about the direction the ball traveled?

So what happened was....

You lost the match, and in your frustration you screamed and then picked up a game ball and threw it over the fence, which was also in such a direction that placed your opponent approximately between you and the target.

But, to you, you just "threw the ball over the fence."

The winner doesnt always keep the match balls, but if you did that so your opponent had to go and chase down the 3rd ball, that's even more low. Gotta grow up kid. Hope you have a huge trust fund or else you're going to be broke since you sound unemployable.
 

AHJS

Professional
Do you really think we believe that the ref added in the scream when it didnt happen? And the bit about the direction the ball traveled?

So what happened was....

You lost the match, and in your frustration you screamed and then picked up a game ball and threw it over the fence, which was also in such a direction that placed your opponent approximately between you and the target.

But, to you, you just "threw the ball over the fence."

The winner doesnt always keep the match balls, but if you did that so your opponent had to go and chase down the 3rd ball, that's even more low. Gotta grow up kid. Hope you have a huge trust fund or else you're going to be broke since you sound unemployable.

I think I'm plenty employable, thanks for your completely irrelevant, rude, jackass comment though.
I know my behavior isn't up to scratch, and far from it actually. I totally admit it. I just made this thread to ask simply if an incident I had was improperly handled by an official, thats all.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame

I think I'm plenty employable, thanks for your completely irrelevant, rude, jackass comment though.
I know my behavior isn't up to scratch, and far from it actually. I totally admit it. I just made this thread to ask simply if an incident I had was improperly handled by an official, thats all.
And you are how old? 16 at the most. There arnt a lot of 16 year olds who work, especially 16 year olds who play junior tennis, which mean your parents are probably are not broke.

The thing that makes this thread special is that you're still fixated on claiming to be mistreated by the officials. You cant get your mind past that, and this is what worries me. This isnt just about your bad behavior anymore. It's about how you're trying to vindicate yourself and rationalize your bad behavior by playing the victim, claiming that people are out to get you, and when they do, they always exaggerate their claims against you.

You've gotten coded for literally everything. You dont just have a bad mouth, or like to throw your racket around, or disagree with officials, you do them... all...

You also have a chronic pattern of misbehavior (stories that involve yourself, explained by yourself no less) that puts your frequency and the severity of offenses way beyond normal behavior.

You admit that you behaved badly. Good. But, what I dont like, is that after you admit it, there is now a conditional "but" there.

"But was it improperly handled by the referee?"
 

AHJS

Professional
And you are how old? 16 at the most. There arnt a lot of 16 year olds who work, especially 16 year olds who play junior tennis, which mean your parents are probably are not broke.

The thing that makes this thread special is that you're still fixated on claiming to be mistreated by the officials. You cant get your mind past that, and this is what worries me. This isnt just about your bad behavior anymore. It's about how you're trying to vindicate yourself and rationalize your bad behavior by playing the victim, claiming that people are out to get you, and when they do, they always exaggerate their claims against you.

You've gotten coded for literally everything. You dont just have a bad mouth, or like to throw your racket around, or disagree with officials, you do them... all...

You also have a chronic pattern of misbehavior (stories that involve yourself, explained by yourself no less) that puts your frequency and the severity of offenses way beyond normal behavior.

You admit that you behaved badly. Good. But, what I dont like, is that after you admit it, there is now a conditional "but" there.

"But was it improperly handled by the referee?"
I'm 15. No my parents aren't broke, but we aren't rich either. Nothing in my life has really been handed to me on a silver plate.
I do still honestly believe that they don't like me now. Its my fault however, because they don't like me as a result of me causing problems to them earlier. Which is why I think that ref didn't call the racket abuse on that kid, because she didn't like me from before.
I do have a pattern, but its been improving. I used to be a much bigger headcase, if thats believable.
 

dlk

Hall of Fame
I'm 15. No my parents aren't broke, but we aren't rich either. Nothing in my life has really been handed to me on a silver plate.
I do still honestly believe that they don't like me now. Its my fault however, because they don't like me as a result of me causing problems to them earlier. Which is why I think that ref didn't call the racket abuse on that kid, because she didn't like me from before.
I do have a pattern, but its been improving. I used to be a much bigger headcase, if thats believable.
Nice post. I respect your maturity. But I do agree with NTRPolice, however, it seems you are mature enough to acknowledge a possible misguided interpretation from the ref's calls. You're vastly more mature than me, when I was 15.
 
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AHJS

Professional
Nice post. I respect your maturity. But I do agree with NTRPolice, however, it seems you are mature enough to acknowledge a possible misguided interpretation from the ref's calls. You're vastly more mature than me, when I was 15.
Thank you. I'm not sure I'd go with misguided interpretation, but just seeing the other side of the story and how she might look at it. I think the interpretation is very clear and is that she was still unhappy because of my previous behavior, and therefore reacted more harshly, which is human nature and didn't code my opponent, because he was a nice kid and hadn't caused any previous problems.
 
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Bionic slice

Semi-Pro
We have all had moments in our life that make each and everyone of us react or overreact in not the most professional or polite way.

Ahjs, it sounds you might have been added to list of names REFs are going to remember do to some recent match behavior. The Odds are... you will be running into this ref again and that specific ref will be looking to find your matches.

My advice...if you want to get through this mess keep that added unwanted fan from affecting your game...find a way to play Mr. calm and cool.... regardless of the opponent behavior, bad calls or tactics or anything any ref does. You might not like this but you might consider apologizing next time you see that ref as that individual is going to be looking for you. That might smooth things over. You don't want to get labeled as a trouble maker and have every move or match watched under a microscope.

Players make bad calls, some are unlucky, some intentional, some with a vengeful purpose. (It sucks..but we all face this on the court)

REF are going to be lazy, make bad or poor calls, don't seem to want to side with you or me.
Next match....play it cool...
 
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dgold44

G.O.A.T.
When mad at that age, I would only smash balls and never my racket; plus, my parents would of went nuts with me busting up a racket.
Still smashing balls is not good.
It my 25 years of playing- I have never smashed or tossed my racket, once.
 

AHJS

Professional
When mad at that age, I would only smash balls and never my racket; plus, my parents would of went nuts with me busting up a racket.
Still smashing balls is not good.
It my 25 years of playing- I have never smashed or tossed my racket, once.
The kid should of been defaulted and his parents should of beaten him up!!
Those rackets cost money.
dgold44, are you a troll?
 
Keed, you got to quit taking this tennis bizness so seriously, its only a game, arguing with old ladies trying to do their jobs is ridiculous. You need to get a girlfriend, Maria is available now that she broke up with baby fed, or you could cougar it with Anna Kournikova, and Serena could use some consoling.
 

NTRPolice

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Keed, you got to quit taking this tennis bizness so seriously, its only a game, arguing with old ladies trying to do their jobs is ridiculous. You need to get a girlfriend, Maria is available now that she broke up with baby fed, or you could cougar it with Anna Kournikova, and Serena could use some consoling.
"baby Fed" hahaha, and I love how Kournikova is now a "cougar" because the OP is 15.

Hingis/Kournikova circa 2002 = BABES!
 
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