gerrysbland
Banned
Yes or no.
No, he only proves that he's a great dink passer with two great slot recievers that no other team has, except for Denver has one.
Last night's 4 point win was their largest margin of victory in any Tom Brady Super Bowl victory. My point here is, any of them could have gone the other way. But for a few plays, Tom Brady might be known as a Super Bowl 6 time loser. Obviously we don't grade him on "what ifs", but it is interesting to think how close he is from "greatest of all time" to "biggest chocker of all time". But, you might argue that is what makes him so great. His ability to win the close ones.
Last night's 4 point win was their largest margin of victory in any Tom Brady Super Bowl victory. My point here is, any of them could have gone the other way. But for a few plays, Tom Brady might be known as a Super Bowl 6 time loser. Obviously we don't grade him on "what ifs", but it is interesting to think how close he is from "greatest of all time" to "biggest chocker of all time". But, you might argue that is what makes him so great. His ability to win the close ones.
Tony Romo will be considered the best QB of all time when it's all said and done. Go Cowboys! Super Bowl XXXXX winners!!!
It will just be called Super Bowl 50 (and if Roman numerals were used, it would be "L", not "XXXXX") next year. If Romo wants to get even somewhat close to the conversation of the best all time, he has a lot of work to do. Right now, that is like saying a guy who has 0 slams on his resume is the greatest of all time.
As a Seahawks fan, he was the last person I wanted to see with the ball in his hands coming down the stretch. He reads defenes and match ups so well and you just knew he was going to do everything it took to get their noses in front.
Being from England and away from all the Manning v Brady hype and attention i'd like to think i'm in a pretty good position to judge them solely on what they do on the field. How they're portrayed in the media and all the office talk, talk shows etc.. haven't influenced me. From what i've seen over the years I find it strange it's even a debate, it's Brady all day every day for me. Even after he broke my heart yesterday
As for greatest of all time, that's hard to say as Montana was before my time (1998 onwards).
Super Bowl 50 is a one year deal. Next year they go back to Roman numerals.
I wrote "when all is said and done" Romo will be considered the best. Which means when his career is over.
Does most Super Bowl wins equate to being the best? No. Is Doug Williams better than Marino, and as good as Peyton? Certainly a big part of the equation though.
Voted NO.
Brady is great but not GOAT. Joe Montana and Dan Marino were better. Steve Bartkowski from the 1980 was a much better passer.
Marino and Bartkowski were perhaps the best pure passers of all-time.
Brady is great but has played on great teams with great coach. Marino and Bartkowski could pass much better once you get beyond the 10 yard route distance. Brady throws loads of short routes but so did Montana but Montana actually moved better in and out of the pocket and was quite capable of throwing the ball downfield.
Never really understood why there's such an emphasis on the big pass. To me, a quarterback is the orchestrator of the offense. The identifying matchups, reading defenses, making the opposition change their gameplan, clock management, staying one step ahead of the D, understanding situations, leadership, clutch when it matters etc..
The quick passes and sending people in motion are the ways to get to get to Seattle and Brady did it perfectly. He always knew when Gronkowski had a match up against a linebacker and he went to him on a handful of big plays.
As much as losing still feels horrible, it was a masterful performance from Brady imo.
As great as Brady might be, or might have played, he had all but given up hope when Lynch ran the 4 yarder to the one yard line.
He probably gave up after that deflected bouncing pass.
LUCK, and luck alone, gave Brady his 4th win in this game. Yes, he was very good, but most everyone expected Seattle to score with less than 30 seconds left on the clock.
Super Bowl 50 is a one year deal. Next year they go back to Roman numerals...
Can't imagine a Super Bowl LI. Just duzn't look right. It may take longer to get back to Roman numerals. Or perhaps we could switch to hexadecimal, binary or, better yet, tally marks.
LUCK, and luck alone, gave Brady his 4th win in this game. Yes, he was very good, but most everyone expected Seattle to score with less than 30 seconds left on the clock.
that would be NO. Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and JIm Macmahan is better than him.
When Charles Barkley is asked about never winning a NBA title, he responds "I was never on the best team." Brady is certainly among the all time elites, but he's also played on very good and balanced teams most years with certainly one of the most capable coaches. He's up there with about half a dozen other legendary quarterbacks.
Absolutely not. There's no way to know how long or how much he was the beneficiary of under-inflated footballs and high-tech eavesdropping.
What about all the Seahawk players that got busted for Aderol? How about Seattle getting busted for cheating by the NFL in the pre-season regarding practice violations etc.
You guys only know what the media feeds you. But Seattle has been PROVEN to cheat. All teams have.
This thread is about Tom Brady.
Even McMahon would crack up if he read this. He wouldnt even make the top 100.
I think the top 3 have to include Montana, Elway, and Brady. The order those 3 are put in can be argued forever but theyre the best 3 I've seen.
5 > 4
And he's only won 1 super bowl as the man. First three he was a gsme manager behind elite defenses. Next two when he was the man he choked hard (his offenses averaged 38 and 34 ppg and he only put up 17 and 14 in the big game) you can say the defense stepped up or other players production dropped but when the qb gets all the credit for wins then he deserves a ton of blame for losses especially when the offense puts up less than half the points they average and he's supposed to be the leader and the play maker.
Every QB is a game manager. It is part of the job description.
Montana got to play with elite offenses and defenses. Bradshaw was surrounded by HOFers and their Steel Curtain defense is still the Gold Standard. Do they get docked for that?
Every QB is a game manager. It is part of the job description.
Montana got to play with elite offenses and defenses. Bradshaw was surrounded by HOFers and their Steel Curtain defense is still the Gold Standard. Do they get docked for that?
.......... Ok you don't know what a game manager is. His first three Super Bowls he had elite defenses (like the Seahawks now) and was told go out there and not make mistakes (like wilson now) the next three Super Bowls he his role was to be the man and make things happen and be the reason they win.
No one talks about Bradshaw as the goat because of his defense. Montana had hofers in his team Brady has the best tight end to ever play the game for two of his sb appearances and had moss for one. Welker is a wr1 or 2 on most teams when he played in New England Revis and browner are pretty damn good too. Really sick of this Brady has no help when he has elite defenses for 3 a very solid defense this year a top 5 goat coach the goat tight end an all time great corner etc. at the end of the day Brady is 1-2 in Super Bowls as the man and had talent around him all 3 times and only got it done once. He's not the goat and won't be unless he gets 6
Brady taking the Patriots to 6 Super Bowls and winning 4 with almost no HOF players around him is unreal.
Oh ok,,,,if you say so
.......... Ok you don't know what a game manager is. His first three Super Bowls he had elite defenses (like the Seahawks now) and was told go out there and not make mistakes (like wilson now) the next three Super Bowls he his role was to be the man and make things happen and be the reason they win.
No one talks about Bradshaw as the goat because of his defense. Montana had hofers in his team Brady has the best tight end to ever play the game for two of his sb appearances and had moss for one. Welker is a wr1 or 2 on most teams when he played in New England Revis and browner are pretty damn good too. Really sick of this Brady has no help when he has elite defenses for 3 a very solid defense this year a top 5 goat coach the goat tight end an all time great corner etc. at the end of the day Brady is 1-2 in Super Bowls as the man and had talent around him all 3 times and only got it done once. He's not the goat and won't be unless he gets 6