Is your local USTA league having you sign a waiver ?

atatu

Legend
Just curious if all the sections are doing this, I don't really mind except I think it's ridiculous that there isn't a way to electronically sign it, you have to print it out and then send it in for each player (scanned or picture). Apparently if anyone plays without signing the waiver the match will be considered a default.
 

kramer woodie

Professional
I think this screams loudly about USTA needing to protect themselves from players who may sue them for getting sick. A quick easy money grab
by those who want to blame others for their own misfortune, instead of assuming responsibility for one's own decisions.

You can see it everyday, the lack of responsibility by individuals, who need a scapegoat for what ails their life choices. You can not hit an ATP forehand, blame somebody else. It is not fair, tall players have an advantage serving, ban tall players. Short legged players can move too fast and play like a pusher, ban short players.

The list goes on and on...you can not arrest me...I will disobey you and resist. What happens next is the person who wants special treatment,
screams it it not fair. Plus, those like him or her jump on the bandwagon. It's not fair...it'not fair...etc. etc. etc..

Shalom
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
I'm not quite sure how you can avoid a pandemic by simply taking personal responsibility apart from fleeing to the mountains and living like a hermit.

I think this screams loudly about USTA needing to protect themselves from players who may sue them for getting sick. A quick easy money grab
by those who want to blame others for their own misfortune, instead of assuming responsibility for one's own decisions.

You can see it everyday, the lack of responsibility by individuals, who need a scapegoat for what ails their life choices. You can not hit an ATP forehand, blame somebody else. It is not fair, tall players have an advantage serving, ban tall players. Short legged players can move too fast and play like a pusher, ban short players.

The list goes on and on...you can not arrest me...I will disobey you and resist. What happens next is the person who wants special treatment,
screams it it not fair. Plus, those like him or her jump on the bandwagon. It's not fair...it'not fair...etc. etc. etc..

Shalom
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Our leagues started 2 weeks ago ... we have not signed nor been asked to sign any waivers ... wouldn't be a big deal to me if I was asked for one.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I think this screams loudly about USTA needing to protect themselves from players who may sue them for getting sick. A quick easy money grab
by those who want to blame others for their own misfortune, instead of assuming responsibility for one's own decisions.

You can see it everyday, the lack of responsibility by individuals, who need a scapegoat for what ails their life choices. You can not hit an ATP forehand, blame somebody else. It is not fair, tall players have an advantage serving, ban tall players. Short legged players can move too fast and play like a pusher, ban short players.

The list goes on and on...you can not arrest me...I will disobey you and resist. What happens next is the person who wants special treatment,
screams it it not fair. Plus, those like him or her jump on the bandwagon. It's not fair...it'not fair...etc. etc. etc..

Shalom
Personal responsibility is not the same as tolerating people who spread disease by not following rules. If you tolerate them, then no one can get do anything in life.

Were you also one of those fighting for the freedom to smoke on planes and asking passengers to avoid flying if they didn't like it?
 

WildVolley

Legend
No waiver yet, but it appears that in San Diego the Spring 2020 season has been moved to Fall 2020. Or at least that's what I'm seeing on Tennis Link.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Sorry are you saying that statins compromise your immune system ? Just curious because I was on one for awhile and I stopped taking it (due to joint pain) but my doctor wants me to get back on another one.
If I were you I would re-think ever going on a statin. Ever. This is big-pharma doing big profit on you while risking your overall health and particularly your liver. Do the more difficult work of diet and exercise change .... and a little reading as to whether high cholesterol is actually a bad thing. Not all medical studies agree on that.
 

atatu

Legend
I'm on a call right now with our league coordinator, it sounds like a waiver will be required in the future but will be accessed through tennislink or whatever will be replacing it.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
I don't really mind except I think it's ridiculous that there isn't a way to electronically sign
Yes, if you had not noticed, this is 2020.

Nobody is going to be asking you to sign and mail in a paper waiver.

I'm on a call right now with our league coordinator, it sounds like a waiver will be required in the future but will be accessed through tennislink or whatever will be replacing it.
Thanks for that update, Captain Obvious.
:rolleyes:
 
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atatu

Legend
Yes, if you had not noticed, this is 2020.

Nobody is going to be asking you to sign and mail in a paper waiver.

Thanks for that update, Captain Obvious.
:rolleyes:
Well if you read my original post, you'll see that my league is making me print out waivers and have my players sign them. What is wrong with you dude ?
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Well if you read my original post, you'll see that my league is making me print out waivers
Are you claiming that an individual player cannot go online himself and print the waiver himself? Or better yet, electronically sign it himself?

There is no need for a Captain to be involved in such a personal medical matter.

What year is the U$TA operating in?

:rolleyes:
 

atatu

Legend
Are you claiming that an individual player cannot go online himself and print the waiver himself? Or better yet, even electronically sign it himself?

There is no need for a Captain to be involved in a personal medical matter.

What year is the U$TA operating in?
Yes an individual player can print out the waiver himself, but they are asking the captain to collect all the waivers and send them in via email (scanned or pictures) and no, there is no option for electronic signature, I was told that it's too expensive.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
no, there is no option for electronic signature, I was told that it's too expensive.
U$TA collecting membership fees and paying millions to Pam Shriver and other do -nothings.

Yet their IT is still stuck in 1990.

Pathetic!

Maybe the staunch USTA supporter @sureshs can address this. Why no option for electronic signature?
:unsure:
 
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Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
It's pretty silly because how would you ever pinpoint when, where, how from who you got it from.
It looks like the USTA is seeking to indemnify itself as a possible source of infection... It is a good move for them as it might possibly discourage some from litigation...

But any lawyer should be able to get around the waiver and file a case. Does not mean they will win. It only means that a waiver is not likely to prevent a case from being filed and going to trial.

The waiver is essentially meaningless which is why some leagues are not even using them.
 
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kramer woodie

Professional
Personal responsibility is not the same as tolerating people who spread disease by not following rules. If you tolerate them, then no one can get do anything in life.

Were you also one of those fighting for the freedom to smoke on planes and asking passengers to avoid flying if they didn't like it?
No you idiot!!! If I wanted to smoke, I always went outside and if people were around asked if my smoking bothered them before lighting up!!! If it did bother them I moved further away. Besides, when on an airplane, can not very well go outside to smoke, so why smoke when on an airplane.

Smoking is to be enjoyed as a reward and is best done in the great outdoors away from *itchy people you are Karen's.

Shalom
 

R1FF

Professional
If I were you I would re-think ever going on a statin. Ever. This is big-pharma doing big profit on you while risking your overall health and particularly your liver. Do the more difficult work of diet and exercise change .... and a little reading as to whether high cholesterol is actually a bad thing. Not all medical studies agree on that.
*basic biology doesnt agree with cholesterol being a bad thing
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Are you claiming that an individual player cannot go online himself and print the waiver himself? Or better yet, electronically sign it himself?

There is no need for a Captain to be involved in such a personal medical matter.

What year is the U$TA operating in?

:rolleyes:
Electronic signature requires authentication with a server using encryption and integrity protection protocol. You can't do it if the document has not been setup for that

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sureshs

Bionic Poster
No you idiot!!! If I wanted to smoke, I always went outside and if people were around asked if my smoking bothered them before lighting up!!! If it did bother them I moved further away. Besides, when on an airplane, can not very well go outside to smoke, so why smoke when on an airplane.

Smoking is to be enjoyed as a reward and is best done in the great outdoors away from *itchy people you are Karen's.

Shalom
Public parks prohibit smoking these days as outdoor distances are relative. Your smoke will remain long after you have left

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Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Electronic signature requires authentication with a server using encryption and integrity protection protocol. You can't do it if the document has not been setup for that

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So it is a matter of outsurcing to an ASP, application service provider, that will provide the electronic signature server infrastructure... The U$TA says they cannot afford this... How much would it cost?
 

kramer woodie

Professional
Public parks prohibit smoking these days as outdoor distances are relative. Your smoke will remain long after you have left

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With your hot wind blowing around, smoke won't linger, but thank you, karen for your opinion. It is nice to have acreage to smoke upon and be isolated from the fruits and nuts and karens.

It does amaze me the number of tennis players who play on courts adjacent to road ways and breath in auto exhaust, plus, possible vaporized jet fuel from landing aircraft, who never complain, but have problems with *** smoke. Just more fruits and nuts and karens.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
You can see it everyday, the lack of responsibility by individuals, who need a scapegoat for what ails their life choices. You can not hit an ATP forehand, blame somebody else. It is not fair, tall players have an advantage serving, ban tall players. Short legged players can move too fast and play like a pusher, ban short players.

The list goes on and on...you can not arrest me...I will disobey you and resist. What happens next is the person who wants special treatment,
screams it it not fair. Plus, those like him or her jump on the bandwagon. It's not fair...it'not fair...etc. etc. etc..
We were told to follow the lockdown orders. Stay home. Shut down the economy. It was all done ostensibly to protect the most at risk group: the vulnerable elderly with underlying conditions.

Now all of that has suddenly been forgotten. The virus has suddenly disappeared. It is a miracle! Feel free to go out on the streets with thousands and "protest". It is your civic duty. Tear down that statue of Jefferson and Columbus! Burn it all down.

This is all shameless exploitation and manipulation.
 
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R1FF

Professional
The virus is still there; we just recently passed 116k dead in the US, passing the number killed in WW1, and about a quarter of the way to the US death toll of WWII.

We might certainly wish it suddenly disappeared, but it hasn't.
I wasnt aware that WW1 & WW2 were killing mostly old people with severe underlying conditions.
 
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