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Just a place to gather our reviews.
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So...Black Knight or Grey Fire? Which one will be crowned the next King of Strings?
Trying to figure it out now.So...Black Knight or Grey Fire? Which on will be crowned the next King of Strings?
Awesome stuff. I'm on my third set now, can't seem to break or even deeply notch this monster in my 95 18x20 (probably why). Becomes pretty uncomfortable and needs replacement around the 22 hour mark for me.
Trying to figure it out now.
J
I think J0lly sent me the 1.30, because it's definitely a thicc boi. And when I say pretty uncomfortable and needs replacement, it NEEDS to be cut out and restrung. I'm trying it in a Prostaff now so I'll report back.That is music to my ears or monitor, or keyboard. Anyway, going to try a reel of 1.25 when I can find it. It’s like trying to find a pretty girl at a lawnmower race.
This is clearly Tourna BHS7T clone? Looks the same to me.
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Nooooo nowhere near it.This is clearly Tourna BHS7T clone? Looks the same to me.
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Yeah but you guys have sharks, box jellyfish, blue ringed octopus, poisonous frogs, and various spiders and snakes to enjoyWhere is this available guys? We get half the stuff you guys get here in Aus.
Yeah you are right. There’s always that.Yeah but you guys have sharks, box jellyfish, blue ringed octopus, poisonous frogs, and various spiders and snakes to enjoy
On the Isospeed website there is a Distributors tab. There aren't any in Australia, but there are some in Europe which have it availableWhere is this available guys? We get half the stuff you guys get here in Aus.
I expect it to be better than Tourna Silver 7 Tour! Wanted to order a set, saw Jollys review, ordered a reel.Got some from the Jman and ill string it up soon. I am currently using Silver 7 Tour and Tour sniper. Would be awesome if it can hang with them.
This has been out for a year or so right? I feel like I read a review where it was described as a cross. Im more of a full bed guy so thats how ill string mine.
Silver 7 Tour blows Grey Fire out of the water when it comes to comfort and playability duration.I expect it to be better than Tourna Silver 7 Tour! Wanted to order a set, saw Jollys review, ordered a reel.
Seems like a trend now. Almost every grey string (excluding ALU Power) seems to last long in playability duration. Grapplesnake Tour Sniper, S7T, Grey Fire and others.
They might be using same additives but that is just a guess.
Grey fire, whats in a name, is not a grey string. Like Jolly said; its ‘champagne/beige’ colored. ( a la Head Lynx Tour/ Lux adrenaline)Seems like a trend now. Almost every grey string (excluding ALU Power) seems to last long in playability duration. Grapplesnake Tour Sniper, S7T, Grey Fire and others.
They might be using same additives but that is just a guess.
The way strings get their coloration is by various types of dyes, which more often than not weaken different types of intermolecular interactions in the string and therefore make them softer and less aligned. So actually any string with just a dye cannot have superior tension maintenance or playability duration. In other words the correlation you see between grey strings and playability duration isn't due to coloring, but rather a coincidence. The only way to improve tension maintenance during production is by use of certain processing techniques which help align the molecular chains in the polymer as well as certain additives which can help keep it aligned during play. Of course there are several other things which go into making the tennis string so you'll also have other additives and techniques in play, some of which can actually hurt the tension maintenance.Seems like a trend now. Almost every grey string (excluding ALU Power) seems to last long in playability duration. Grapplesnake Tour Sniper, S7T, Grey Fire and others.
They might be using same additives but that is just a guess.
I’d guess normal is around the mid 50’s, so probably high 40’s to low 50’s.I read on Isospeed site that this string is for normal and higher tensions. What is the low end of normal?
Believe me if there were an optimal length every string would be designed to have it irrespective of color. It's not the length but the linearity and alignment which are responsible. The length itself is mostly responsible for properties related to elasticity (stiffness) and viscosity. And again adding dye causes disalignment so that's still not it.Yes, good point. On the other hand, this is not cellulose polymer, so polyester chains are not as long. In my mind you can further decrease size of poly chain by adding dye. By adding right dye you can find an "optimum" size of chains, where they stay in flexible state for a long time by decreasing stress on that particular fiber and spreading it more on other fibers as well. + you need other certain processing techniques.
I read on Isospeed site that this string is for normal and higher tensions. What is the low end of normal?
What racquet are you playing with? I'm using prestige fp mp 18/20, which is pretty stiff by default. Definitely don't want to string it higher than 23kg/50lbs. Actually, I'd like to go lower, hence why I asked what is the low end of "normal".I strung it at 50 and it felt a little stiff initially. Definitely do not recommend high tensions.
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I would probably try around 20/21 kg for a high end tension for an 18/20. I go around 42/43 for stiff poly like rpm blast.What racquet are you playing with? I'm using prestige fp mp 18/20, which is pretty stiff by default. Definitely don't want to string it higher than 23kg/50lbs. Actually, I'd like to go lower, hence why I asked what is the low end of "normal".
What racquet are you playing with? I'm using prestige fp mp 18/20, which is pretty stiff by default. Definitely don't want to string it higher than 23kg/50lbs. Actually, I'd like to go lower, hence why I asked what is the low end of "normal".
I don't mind stiff strings, even on higher tensions, in a Blade 18/20, but in this mp, it really bothers me. Luxilon adrenaline at 23kg was fine for me and I think Jolly said that grey fire is similar string.I would probably try around 20/21 kg for a high end tension for an 18/20. I go around 42/43 for stiff poly like rpm blast.
I ordered 1.25, but I'm not a string breaker. 18/20 saves string and I'm certainly not hitting as hard as you on average.2020 prestige mid. I strung the 1.25 at 50 in my MP last year and it was great but I broke it in 45 minutes. The 1.30 lasts substantially longer.
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Hi
Tried Grey Fire 1.30 in RF97A at 25.5kg/56lb, low power at first, slightly lacked spin, needs lots of hard hitting, really nice feel, nice pocketing but not too much, just right to swing big. Didn't notch much but wore thinner and thinner in the crosses and then got some power and pocketing, but that wasn't really a 1.30 string anymore. It lasted ~4h, which is a lot for me, but I definitely want 1.25 instead. Wonderfully balanced string, bigger hitters will definitely like. When stringing it feels like ALU or Head Hawk (also made by Isospeed), kind of soft-ish but not soft slightly malleable material, you can easily bend and kink it just with two fingers, some other poly strings are kind of stiffer under the fingers. Total recommendation.