Istomin for the upset?

[Rippy]

If he was well enough to go on court, he was well enough to compete.

Great, Nadal wasn't injured in the clay season last year, or at US Open last year.

The only tournament he was injured for was Wimbledon.

 

[veroniquem]

The way that Tipsarevic played against Roddick tonight he would have taken out Nadal if he had played Nadal instead of Roddick.

Nope, he wouldn't have because Nadal plays NOTHING like Roddick, he defends much better and he's much more patient in long rallies. Rafa is a bad matchup for Tipsy but Tipsy seems to come to life whenever he sees Roddick across the net
Matchups are funny stuff I know. BTW I expect Monfils to beat Tipsy in next round without too much effort...

 

[veroniquem]

Um....Istomin just beat Gabashvilli at the Pilot Pen last week.

Once again, that proves nothing. What is it about the concept of matchup that you cannot comprehend????

 

[veroniquem]

LOL, what happened those "in form" players Bags and the dangerous Gulbis????? Cakewalk draw for Rafa.

Baghs is not even in Rafa's half. He was in Djoko's quarter. Gulbis was about the weakest guy in Rafa's quarter. Chardy is actually more dangerous.

 

[TheMagicianOfPrecision]

Once again, that proves nothing. What is it about the concept of matchup that you cannot comprehend????

Whats with your attitude towards people!? I know you are from New York but seriously, try to be nicer ok?

 

[veroniquem]

Whats with your attitude towards people!? I know you are from New York but seriously, try to be nicer ok?

Oh yeah? Like starting a troll thread about "yeah Istomin is gonna upset Nadal, super!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is NICE in any way???? Believe me I am SUPER nice. If I spoke my "real" mind about the kind of anti-Nadal buffoons starting that kind of crass threads (or relishing it), it would come out a teeny bit nastier :twisted:

 

[TheMagicianOfPrecision]

Oh yeah? Like starting a troll thread about "yeah Istomin is gonna upset Nadal, super!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is NICE in any way???? Believe me I am SUPER nice. If I spoke my "real" mind about the kind of anti-Nadal buffoons starting that kind of crass threads (or relishing it), it would come out a teeny bit nastier :twisted:

I agree that the thread is ridiculous but still, you really should try to be nicer, its degrading when you talk/write to someone as if they were 8 years old.

Well thats how I feel about all the Fed-haters as well. But i am not degrading to people

 

[TennisandMusic]

I agree that the thread is ridiculous but still, you really should try to be nicer, its degrading when you talk/write to someone as if they were 8 years old.

Well thats how I feel about all the Fed-haters as well. But i am not degrading to people

Dude...what are you talking about!? You CONSTANTLY personally insult people on this board. You have to be one of the nastiest posters I've seen on any forum. Telling people they are mean or degrading? Talk about a pot and kettle situation, geez. :lol:

Lay off V, it's funny how some Fed fans just can't stand a Nadal fan who has the audacity to voice their opinion and not "back down".

 

[CeeY]

If Roddick goes down, Rafa goes down. All Istomin has to do is use his "Uzbek magic" and take a couple of sets off of Rafa at least.

 

[SiriusTennis]

Dude...what are you talking about!? You CONSTANTLY personally insult people on this board. You have to be one of the nastiest posters I've seen on any forum. Telling people they are mean or degrading? Talk about a pot and kettle situation, geez. :lol:

Lay off V, it's funny how some Fed fans just can't stand a Nadal fan who has the audacity to voice their opinion and not "back down".

With some obvious exceptions, I hardly think that is the case. Veroniquem trolls around on every Federer thread possible, it's not about being a Nadal fan.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

I am a Fed fan and i want a Nadal vs Federer match in the final.I wanna see them again in a grand slam final.All the pressure would definetly be on Federer even though Nadal would have the pressure of trying to complete a GS.Nadal to me is already a great player and he has beaten Roger in big spots.Roger needs Nadal at least in a couple of more GS finals.

 

[BreakPoint]

Once again, that proves nothing. What is it about the concept of matchup that you cannot comprehend????

So you admit that Federer is a far superior and talented tennis player than Nadal, but just that Nadal is a "bad matchup" for Federer?

OK, I now understand.

 

[CeeY]

So you admit that Federer is a far superior and talented tennis player than Nadal, but just that Nadal is a "bad matchup" for Federer?

OK, I now understand.

Federer knows how to get off the court quicker than Nadal.

 

[BreakPoint]

Federer knows how to get off the court quicker than Nadal.

That's because Federer knows how to play tennis better than Nadal.

Remember that according to veroniquem, H2H means nothing in determining who the better player is.

 

[meg0529]

I agree that the thread is ridiculous but still, you really should try to be nicer, its degrading when you talk/write to someone as if they were 8 years old.

Well thats how I feel about all the Fed-haters as well. But I am not degrading to people

You know what, V gets a bit aggressive at times, but honestly it's hard not to. I have seen posters wish for Nadal to die, or break his knee, or get horribly injured. How many I hope Fed dies or gets badly posts can you find? There is nothing that Nadal does that justifies so much hatred. Sometimes a player pisses you off, and that's fine, but need to spew so much hate. People sit around hoping for and cheering on the idea that Nadal permanently damages his knee. Then they come and talk about how much they love tennis and blah blah blah. But i guess that's how most online forums are.

 

[CeeY]

You don't see Nadal's apparel having an "N" sewed to them do you? "F" is for Fed, and Fed > Nadal.

 

[Rippy]

You know what, V gets a bit aggressive at times, but honestly it's hard not to. I have seen posters wish for Nadal to die, or break his knee, or get horribly injured. How many I hope Fed dies or gets badly posts can you find? There is nothing that Nadal does that justifies so much hatred. Sometimes a player pisses you off, and that's fine, but need to spew so much hate. People sit around hoping for and cheering on the idea that Nadal permanently damages his knee. Then they come and talk about how much they love tennis and blah blah blah. But i guess that's how most online forums are.

And how many posts can you find wishing for Nadal to get injured? Very few.

I've read a post on here before where someone said they wanted Fed to get seriously injured.

There are a few idiots who hate Nadal, and a few idiots who hate Federer.

 

[meg0529]

And how many posts can you find wishing for Nadal to get injured? Very few.

I wish I had the time to go find them and list them.

 

[CeeY]

Nadal is trying to copy Roger's look anyways, so now you know who the superior player is. "I am trying to hit flatter", just as Roger is.

 

[OddJack]

I hope not. I want to see Nadal reach the final so Rodge can get his hands on him here.
I know that's too much to ask from Nadal tho.

 

[P_Agony]

Istomin gave Nadal quite a tough time on grass if I remember correctly. I don't think he can beat him but he can take a set off Nadal.

 

[Dechizen]

I like to think so but then again it's probably just wishful thinking.

In any case, he's got the weapons and if he's in a good day + some luck + required mental fortitude might maybe, i don't know, produce something close to a win in R2.

Goooo Denis!!!! For the win!!

LMFAO:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[jackson vile]

Leave him alone!
He suffers from HeadInRafasButtitis--It's a serious condition!

And you suffer from head on Roger jock "up and down, up and down"? LOL

 

[jackson vile]

I hope not. I want to see Nadal reach the final so Rodge can get his hands on him here.
I know that's too much to ask from Nadal tho.

Do you really need to lose any more face than you already have?

 

[veroniquem]

With some obvious exceptions, I hardly think that is the case. Veroniquem trolls around on every Federer thread possible, it's not about being a Nadal fan.

This IS a Nadal thread, proving you wrong immediately.

 

[veroniquem]

So you admit that Federer is a far superior and talented tennis player than Nadal, but just that Nadal is a "bad matchup" for Federer?

OK, I now understand.

Nadal is both the best player in absolute terms (that's why he is #1) and a bad matchup for Fed.

 

[thejoe]

Nadal is both the best player in absolute terms (that's why he is #1) and a bad matchup for Fed.

He reached number 1 so swiftly because he missed the middle of last season. He wasn't suddenly better than Roger after Roland Garros because of the numbers.

 

[veroniquem]

You don't see Nadal's apparel having an "N" sewed to them do you? "F" is for Fed, and Fed > Nadal.

He doesn't need to remind people what his initials are. Everyone knows it already...

 

[veroniquem]

He reached number 1 so swiftly because he missed the middle of last season. He wasn't suddenly better than Roger after Roland Garros because of the numbers.

He reached #1 because of how well he played: 3 master titles and 2 slam titles.

 

[thejoe]

He reached #1 because of how well he played: 3 master titles and 2 slam titles.

He's dominated clay since 2005, and won a Wimbledon that was massively underwhelming, and seriously weakened once Federer was knocked out. Sure, he's had a great season, but he had a better one in 2008 and didn't go to number 1 so quickly. Poor form from Roger, and a lack of points to defend for Rafa helped him climb to the top as much as good play did.

 

[BreakPoint]

Nadal is both the best player in absolute terms (that's why he is #1) and a bad matchup for Fed.

Hmmm.....is that why Nadal has never made even a single US Open final while Federer has made 6 in a row and won 5 in a row?

 

[President]

Hmmm.....is that why Nadal has never made even a single US Open final while Federer has made 6 in a row and won 5 in a row?

Nadal has definitely had the best results over the course of this season. That means he is the best player in the world right now, correct? Not saying he is the favorite for this tournament..but Nadal is the clear #1 right now.

 

[meg0529]

Scrw it, I wanna troll.

He's dominated clay since 2005, and won a Wimbledon that was massively underwhelming, and seriously weakened once Federer was knocked out. Sure, he's had a great season, but he had a better one in 2008 and didn't go to number 1 so quickly. Poor form from Roger, and a lack of points to defend for Rafa helped him climb to the top as much as good play did.

Berdych did Fed a huge favor by knocking him out, or H2H would be 15-7 rite now. =D

I like how you sneaked in a mildly sugar coated, "Rafa's Wimby win isn't a big deal, because Fed was out of form and got out early". Hmm, so I suppose Rog is yet to complete his career slam?

 

[abmk]

nah, istomin is not taking nadal out ... takes a set off him at most

 

[BreakPoint]

Nadal has definitely had the best results over the course of this season. That means he is the best player in the world right now, correct? Not saying he is the favorite for this tournament..but Nadal is the clear #1 right now.

Being #1 right now doesn't mean that you're the best player on the tour. It just means that you earned more points. That's how both Safina and Jankovic were ranked #1.

 

[veroniquem]

Hmmm.....is that why Nadal has never made even a single US Open final while Federer has made 6 in a row and won 5 in a row?

No that's why Nadal is #1 with 8 slam titles at just 24, 2 RG-W back to back, slam titles on all 3 surfaces and 18 master shields + an Olympic title. He has to keep something exciting for the second part of his career, no? That will be the USO title maybe...

 

[veroniquem]

Being #1 right now doesn't mean that you're the best player on the tour. It just means that you earned more points. That's how both Safina and Jankovic were ranked #1.

You're not gonna earn the most points if you're not the best. You earn the most points by winning the most matches and to win the most matches, you have to be the best, sorry.

 

[BreakPoint]

You're not gonna earn the most points if you're not the best. You earn the most points by winning the most matches and to win the most matches, you have to be the best, sorry.

So then Safina and Jankovic are better tennis players than all the other women on tour?

 

[dmt]

So then Safina and Jankovic are better tennis players than all the other women on tour?

nadal has won 2 slams and 3 masters 1000 events thiS year. So he is BY FAR the best player in the world. When did Safina and Jankovic win two slam in a year? Stop trolling, you know very well that nadal is by far the best player in the world

 

[veroniquem]

He's dominated clay since 2005, and won a Wimbledon that was massively underwhelming, and seriously weakened once Federer was knocked out. Sure, he's had a great season, but he had a better one in 2008 and didn't go to number 1 so quickly. Poor form from Roger, and a lack of points to defend for Rafa helped him climb to the top as much as good play did.

He beat Fed in the W final when Fed was good enough to make it. This year he beat the best guys at W: Sod, Murray, Berdych. That hardly qualifies as an "easy" draw, sorry. If Fed ever manages to make the W final again, I'm sure Rafa will be happy to beat him again... in less than 5 sets.

 

[veroniquem]

So then Safina and Jankovic are better tennis players than all the other women on tour?

Safina and Janko didn't win 2 slams and 3 masters in a year, did they?
You want to compare WTA level of competition to ATP? You're really stooping low just to berate Rafa. Be careful because if you stoop any lower, you're gonna fall flat on your face!

 

[CeeY]

At least Fed can give a speech at U.S. Open kids day, lol. An Uzbek magic carpet and a big serve will probably give Istomin somewhat of a chance to win to be honest.

 

[BreakPoint]

Safina and Janko didn't win 2 slams and 3 masters in a year, did they?
You want to compare WTA level of competition to ATP? You're really stooping low just to berate Rafa. Be careful because if you stoop any lower, you're gonna fall flat on your face!

But you said Nadal is the best player because he's ranked #1, did you not?

So were Roddick and Moya the best players in the world because they were ranked #1, too?

 

[BreakPoint]

nadal has won 2 slams and 3 masters 1000 events thiS year. So he is BY FAR the best player in the world. When did Safina and Jankovic win two slam in a year? Stop trolling, you know very well that nadal is by far the best player in the world

All I know is that Nadal is currently the #1 ranked player in the world. That doesn't necessarily mean he's the best player in the world. Was Djokovic the 2nd best player in the world in July just because he was ranked #2 in the world?

 

[abmk]

stop it breakpoint ...

nadal is the best player in the world right now .. 2 grand slams and 3 masters this year and no #1 player in the world ...

 

[veroniquem]

But you said Nadal is the best player because he's ranked #1, did you not?

So were Roddick and Moya the best players in the world because they were ranked #1, too?

Sure, why not? In 2003 Roddick had a splendid summer season, winning 2 masters + the USO. He was definitely the best hard court player at the time.
(Of course to be fair, Moya was #1 for only 2 weeks, nothing you could compare to Rafa's 60+ weeks and counting)

 

[ttbrowne]

Istomin will lose but Nadal will have to do Jimmy Conners six-shooter and fist-up dance at least 6 times.

 

[Ambivalent]

Scrw it, I wanna troll.



Berdych did Fed a huge favor by knocking him out, or H2H would be 15-7 rite now. =D

I like how you sneaked in a mildly sugar coated, "Rafa's Wimby win isn't a big deal, because Fed was out of form and got out early". Hmm, so I suppose Rog is yet to complete his career slam?

If Nadal had made the other 5 USO finals, it would be 14-12. If he made a few more slam finals during Fed's 2005-6 domination, it would be in favor of Federer. Hypothetical wins are not valid.

 

[meg0529]

If Nadal had made the other 5 USO finals, it would be 14-12. If he made a few more slam finals during Fed's 2005-6 domination, it would be in favor of Federer. Hypothetical wins are not valid.

Lol, honestly I'm done with my troll moment. But what I meant was not for all the places they could have met. But, it seemed like you were hinting that Nadal's win at wimbledon was really quite easy, since he did not have to play Fed who was out of form anyway. Sort of same theme as RG 09 for Rog.

 

[meg0529]

I don't see Nadal beating Fed again in a slam final unless it's clay.

I don't think it will be easy for him, if they play in the finals. Fed is on his fav surface, and Nadal on his least fav surface. Fed also seems very confident right now. That Cincy win really turned things around for him. It also seems that he has quite the bag of tricks up his sleeve. I dunno how much is truth and how much is hype though. It should make for a good match.