It can still be repeat of 2014 AO for Rafa.

mistik

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People think he will win but what A0 2014 shows us never say never. There still 2 guys who can out ace and out hit him as well.
 
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ADuck

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Nadal would have to play really bad to lose to Anderson or PCB. Realistically the real final will be in the semis.
 
Anderson has the game to trouble Rafa. If he's serving 135 and hitting his spots like he was against Querry, that will make it tough. The question is could he hold is nerve in his first major final?

PCB making the final would mean Rafa loses 4-5 games Max. That would be the worst possible outcome. JMDP could definitely win the SF though. Rafa isn't battle tested this tournament. He's played a terribly weak draw and still dropped sets, so we'll see.
 
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SafinSucks

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At this stage, I really believe Del Potro will be a tougher challenge for Nadal than Federer would have been. Sure, Federer has a glorious head-to-head against Nadal this year, but I do think Nadal was winning this encounter this time, while the Del Potro match could go either way.
As for Anderson, he has the game to beat both. And his mental game improved a lot. I really hope Carreno-Busta does not qualify for the final. Nothing against him, but Anderson's powerful game is more interesting to watch on this kind of court.
One thing that does not favor Anderson at all is his movement. I know he moves very well for a big guy, but I remember watching a part of Nadal vs Anderson in Barcelona and it was so obvious that Anderson could not move well enough against Nadal. Now this is hard court, Anderson needs to dictate 80% of the points to have a chance.
But Carreno-Busta first...
 

Gary Duane

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Just remember that the ultimate test for Delpo's backhand at this point in his career would be trying to defend it against a forehand onslaught from Nadal.

I think at this point Nadal is a bad matchup for Delpo...
 

Sport

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Just remember that the ultimate test for Delpo's backhand at this point in his career would be trying to defend it against a forehand onslaught from Nadal.

I think at this point Nadal is a bad matchup for Delpo...
Disagree. Del Potro has historically been a though opponent for Rafael. He executed Nadal in 3 straight sets in the US Open 2009. He also defeated Nadal in the 2016 Olympics.
 
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SafinSucks

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Let's be honest, if Querrey can beat Nadal the way he did in Acapulco, then Anderson can as well. I don't care if this is a slam final, tennis has became more unpredictable recently, and I like that.
 

Gary Duane

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Disagree. Del Potro has historically been a though opponent for Rafael. He executed Nadal in 3 straight sets in the US Open 2009. He also defeated Nadal in the 2016 Olympics.
I mean that RIGHT NOW his backhand is a bad matchup, in general, with Nadal's forehand.

I think Nadal will attack it.

But I'm not really disagreeing with you either, because I think that Delpo is without doubt one of the most dangerous big match players we've ever seen, and I have to think that perhaps he would already be an ATG if he had not suffered those horrible injuries.
 
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Would PCB winning be as unpexpected as the Thomas Johansson AO 2002 win?
Much more unexpected! Johansson was a former top 10 player I believe, and won a Master 1000 before. Most people will cheer for Anderson, because they want a final.
Also, Anderson lives in the US so he is pretty liked there.
 

titoelcolombiano

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Delpo is going to be a real handful for Rafa. You have to realise that from JM's perspective he also sees a real chance to snatch a slam here so it will definately be game on in the Semi
 

Newcomer

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Nadal is still very very far from winning the title. I mean, he didn't win a title on hardcourt for almost 4 years. There are no easy draws for him here.
 
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Lets hope for Nadal's sake that does not happen, this slam has dropped into his lap, if he manages to do what he did in AO 2014, I honestly do not know how he will recover.
 

Newcomer

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Lets hope for Nadal's sake that does not happen, this slam has dropped into his lap, if he manages to do what he did in AO 2014, I honestly do not know how he will recover.
Nadal already missed a lot of chances this year. Lost all 3 finals on hardcourt (including AO from a break up in the fifth), somehow lost to Muller in Wimbledon, couldn't use his chances in Montreal and Cincinnati...It will be really sad if he will lose here too. But it is possible.
 

Julian Houston

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Nadal already missed a lot of chances this year. Lost all 3 finals on hardcourt (including AO from a break up in the fifth), somehow lost to Muller in Wimbledon, couldn't use his chances in Montreal and Cincinnati...It will be really sad if he will lose here too. But it is possible.
If Nadal cant win this luckiest slam, Fedr is going to be YE1. Nadal confidence broken will be too great for him to ever win another HC slam.
 
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Nadal already missed a lot of chances this year. Lost all 3 finals on hardcourt (including AO from a break up in the fifth), somehow lost to Muller in Wimbledon, couldn't use his chances in Montreal and Cincinnati...It will be really sad if he will lose here too. But it is possible.
If Nadal cant win this luckiest slam, Fedr is going to be YE1. Nadal confidence broken will be too great for him to ever win another HC slam.
This pretty pretty much sums it up. Although, Nadal for me is pretty much a virtual lock for the title.
 

Rafa the King

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Well, not all the wine or chocolate in the world would make me calm about that :p I can watch the match since I dont need to be up early next day. But its a big chance Ill try to sleep through it all.:(
Yeah doesn't work like that for me, I just don't get sleepy and might as well watch. Also, I think it's gonna be a great match and I am confident in Rafa.
 
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Yeah doesn't work like that for me, I just don't get sleepy and might as well watch. Also, I think it's gonna be a great match and I am confident in Rafa.
Would you rather have Fed or Delp in semis? Regardless of who is the tougher opponent, I think the win over Fed would have been more meaningful (although opposite for a loss of course). In the end, he won't caree too much if he gets the title. I guess Fedal wasn't really meant to be this year, if it happens it should be a final at USO.

I think Rafa has a very good chance of winning 16, >90 percent I'd say.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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Yeah doesn't work like that for me, I just don't get sleepy and might as well watch. Also, I think it's gonna be a great match and I am confident in Rafa.
Ill take a sleeping aid if so, of course not possible to fall asleep naturally when he plays.
But maybe Ill watch it. I have chickened out some epic matches before when he won.
 
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I thought Federer is a lock to destroy Del Potro. But things turned around somehow. :oops:
I cannot see Del Potro taking three big scalps in a row. It will be Nadal's first true test though.
 

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I cannot see Del Potro taking three big scalps in a row. It will be Nadal's first true test though.
Nadal will probably try to out grind him. And he really should not be afraid to go for Del Potro's forehand sometimes. Hitting everything to the backhand will not end well.
 
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I also don't know that Del Potro is playing GREAT. I mean he did get taken to 6-4 in the 5th by Thiem.
 
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Nadal will probably try to out grind him.
Of course, he cannot hit Del Potro off the court, he has to grind him down, and make him play on his terms. And under no circumstance should he allow that Delpo forehand into the match at any point, that is one thing he must avoid at all costs.
 
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The_Order

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Just remember that the ultimate test for Delpo's backhand at this point in his career would be trying to defend it against a forehand onslaught from Nadal.

I think at this point Nadal is a bad matchup for Delpo...
Nadal isn't really playing that well either, Del Potro has the weapons to beat him there's no doubt. He will not allow Nadal an onslaught attack to his bh.

The real question mark for me re Del Potro is his fitness...
 

The_Order

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Of course, he cannot hit Del Potro off the court, he has to grind him down, and make him play on his terms. And under no circumstance should be allow that Delpo forehand into the match at any point, that is one thing he must avoid at all costs.
A LOT easier said than done. If Del Potro serves well, he will take the initiative in points and Nadal will be running left to right chasing ball but not able to do much with it.

Nadal's never really been a serve beast either so Del Potro will have his chances to break. Nadal will have to play his best match of the tournament to win imo.
 

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Of course, he cannot hit Del Potro off the court, he has to grind him down, and make him play on his terms. And under no circumstance should he allow that Delpo forehand into the match at any point, that is one thing he must avoid at all costs.
Hitting everything to Del Potro's backhand isn't smart at all. Del Potro is too defensive from this side and as a result makes almost no errors. I think the best tactic for Nadal would be to hit a few to his backhand to get the advantage in the rally and THEN hit to the forehand side and try to finish the point. His problem at the Olympics was that he didn't do that, he kept hitting to the backhand and waited for errors.
 
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A LOT easier said than done. If Del Potro serves well, he will take the initiative in points and Nadal will be running left to right chasing ball but not able to do much with it.

Nadal's never really been a serve beast either so Del Potro will have his chances to break. Nadal will have to play his best match of the tournament to win imo.
I did say this will be Nadal's biggest test, so of course that means Delpo is a threat. I feel though Delpo trying to get past Nadal after his last two matches, and with his fitness in question is going to be a step too far for him. Nadal is a very good tactician on the court, and he knows that he needs to keep that forehand out of the match, with his fresher legs, he should have the big advantage.
 
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Hitting everything to Del Potro's backhand isn't smart at all. Del Potro is too defensive from this side and as a result makes almost no errors. I think the best tactic for Nadal would be to hit a few to his backhand to get the advantage in the rally and THEN hit to the forehand side and try to finish the point. His problem at the Olympics was that he didn't do that, he kept hitting to the backhand and waited for errors.
If he is going to hit into the forehand side, it will need to be a kill shot, Delpo is lethal on the run to his forehand, and has a large wing span. I think he plays the grinding, patient game, wear down his man, and then finish him off.
 

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If he is going to hit into the forehand side, it will need to be a kill shot, Delpo is lethal on the run to his forehand, and has a large wing span. I think he plays the grinding, patient game, wear down his man, and then finish him off.
Well, at least there is hope now. In 2009 I just knew Nadal was going to lose the semifinal, even though I expected it to be a bit closer, at least for one set. This time he actually SHOULD win. But "should" means nothing in tennis. He can still lose.
 
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Well, at least there is hope now. In 2009 I just knew Nadal was going to lose the semifinal, even though I expected it to be a bit closer, at least for one set. This time he actually SHOULD win. But "should" means nothing in tennis. He can still lose.
Well of course, it is sports. That is why wins are not given on paper, you still have to play the matches.
 

WhiskeyEE

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DelPo's hold game is very underrated. He can be almost impossible to break when he's serving well. He showed that vs Novak at the Olympics last year and yesterday vs Federer. He will need to serve well to win.
 
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