Dane_is_Finnish_OJ
Legend
I'm pretty sure that somebody would complain. Maybe the people that held that tournament for more than 100 years.
Italian Open organizer eyes tournament as 5th tennis Grand Slam
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GodlessEndeavor
Professional
As I recall it, they screwed up the prize ceremony a couple of years ago quite badly:
They need to prove they're good organisers before getting any ideas of becoming a slam .
They need to prove they're good organisers before getting any ideas of becoming a slam .
Dane_is_Finnish_OJ
Legend
Keyword: Anglo
jimmy0slams
Semi-Pro
Exactly, or Miami.
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
And there we have it. Melbourne was granted slam status not because of any fair global selection process but purely as a result of English colonial legacy and favouritism.
Players then proceeded to routinely skip Melbourne for 50 years and treated Melbourne as the red-headed stepchild.
Today, many players and fans are complaining that Melbourne has deteriorated into a rowdy Rugby League atmosphere.
All while our favourite Bart pretends AO is some sacred cow that can't be touched and refuses to share the pie. Where is the inclusivity?
Meanwhile the CCP has the highest of tennis ambitions.
CCP Sports Policy:
- The CCP’s 2021–2025 national sports plan calls for “hosting more world-class sporting events, promoting Chinese sports culture, and enhancing the country’s sports soft power.”
- State media and official statements frequently stress the importance of integrating “Chinese characteristics” and “telling China’s story well” through sports.
One of the 4 slams needs to move over and Melbourne is the best candidate.
Raucous Australian Open crowds causing issues at event
Fan outbursts and crowd antics at this year’s Australian Open have led to numerous incidents occurring between players and fans
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airchallenge2
Hall of Fame
Those masks disqualifies whatever their message is....Forget about Indian Wells.
Rome stands alone as the most beautiful and prestigious Masters 1000 event, especially now amid the Renaissance of Italian tennis led by the young Sinner and the beloved Roman Paolini.
In the 1980s, players routinely skipped the Australian. None of the players like traveling to that regime down under anyway.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Colonial legacy is why your Indian countrymen play cricket. It's the CPC, by the way, there is no CCP.
And there we have it. Melbourne was granted slam status not because of any fair global selection process but purely as a result of English colonial legacy and favouritism.
Players then proceeded to routinely skip Melbourne for 50 years and treated Melbourne as the red-headed stepchild.
Today, many players and fans are complaining that Melbourne has deteriorated into a rowdy Rugby League atmosphere.
All while our favourite Bart pretends AO is some sacred cow that can't be touched and refuses to share the pie. Where is the inclusivity?
Meanwhile the CCP has the highest of tennis ambitions.
CCP Sports Policy:
- The CCP’s 2021–2025 national sports plan calls for “hosting more world-class sporting events, promoting Chinese sports culture, and enhancing the country’s sports soft power.”
- State media and official statements frequently stress the importance of integrating “Chinese characteristics” and “telling China’s story well” through sports.
One of the 4 slams needs to move over and Melbourne is the best candidate.
Raucous Australian Open crowds causing issues at event
Fan outbursts and crowd antics at this year’s Australian Open have led to numerous incidents occurring between players and fans
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
In Argentina, we are contemplating abandoning our claims to the Malvinas in exchange for a slam.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Is Dr. Raúl Indian?
That accounts for my two most admired users in this place!
GrassMasters
Professional
Halle Masters when?
Two slams in one country? I doubt that will ever happen. IMO, there is no need for another slam. Also, having five slams would make the slam count unfair to players who competed in a four slam era.
SirCraigoryy
Semi-Pro
I don't understand what getting rid of the World Cup has to do with tennis?
langley
Hall of Fame
i agree that it shouldn’t happen
Nappa
Hall of Fame
Tennis is played outdoors. Indoors tennis is a travesty.
SirCraigoryy
Semi-Pro
Fair enough. Do you want to tell the Grand Slam tournament directors they can't close the roofs to any of their stadium courts or should I?
Lleytonstation
Bionic Poster
Everything.
Airspun
Hall of Fame
We actually were even happier with no tiebreaks in the fifth only at U.S. Open and they change that I’m still so mad
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
I agree with uniformity in fifth set definition across all slams, myself. It was a mess.
silentkman
Hall of Fame
Tennis fans know about Aussie Open in the old days. Why would the Majors approve of one more? makes zero sense. I'll admit that the Italian has come a long way since the 70's.Forget about Indian Wells.
Rome stands alone as the most beautiful and prestigious Masters 1000 event, especially now amid the Renaissance of Italian tennis led by the young Sinner and the beloved Roman Paolini.
In the 1980s, players routinely skipped the Australian. None of the players like traveling to that regime down under anyway.
silentkman
Hall of Fame
Yes and No
silentkman
Hall of Fame
What's the problem with rowdy crowds? That's why I love the US Open. for the record the phase re-headed stepchild is stupid. chose another analogy. Tennis needs to work on making sure it's a viable sport for the top 500 players to make a living.And there we have it. Melbourne was granted slam status not because of any fair global selection process but purely as a result of English colonial legacy and favouritism.
Players then proceeded to routinely skip Melbourne for 50 years and treated Melbourne as the red-headed stepchild.
Today, many players and fans are complaining that Melbourne has deteriorated into a rowdy Rugby League atmosphere.
All while our favourite Bart pretends AO is some sacred cow that can't be touched and refuses to share the pie. Where is the inclusivity?
Meanwhile the CCP has the highest of tennis ambitions.
CCP Sports Policy:
- The CCP’s 2021–2025 national sports plan calls for “hosting more world-class sporting events, promoting Chinese sports culture, and enhancing the country’s sports soft power.”
- State media and official statements frequently stress the importance of integrating “Chinese characteristics” and “telling China’s story well” through sports.
One of the 4 slams needs to move over and Melbourne is the best candidate.
Raucous Australian Open crowds causing issues at event
Fan outbursts and crowd antics at this year’s Australian Open have led to numerous incidents occurring between players and fans
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I guess the profusion of good Australian tennis players in that era helped fuel the decision to make their biggest tournament a Slam.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
In the USO, I have less tolerance for people seated late in their places after the play is starting, because they couldn’t wait to eat or drink something, than rowdy crowds.
silentkman
Hall of Fame
It depends on the stadium, honestly that's small stuff that i don't worry about. .
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
In my opinion, that is paramount.
silentkman
Hall of Fame
apples to oranges.
No_Kwan_Do
Professional
They can eye it up all they want, it's never going to happen, and if it was, they'd have to get in line behind the Saudi's.
SirCraigoryy
Semi-Pro
Good thing I like most fruit then lol.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
It depended on which countries were big players in tennis and tennis politics circa 1910s/1920s.
The original big two were Wimbledon and French to which the USA and Australia were added.
The prime mover was, of course, Wimbledon:
en.wikipedia.org
The original big two were Wimbledon and French to which the USA and Australia were added.
The prime mover was, of course, Wimbledon:
Grand Slam (tennis) - Wikipedia
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Better_Call_Raul
Legend
Please do ignore the wild speculations of our favourite CCP BEV Huckster Globalist Bart.
Only a dunderhead makes assumptions based on name.
- The name Raul is a cognate of the Anglo-Germanic names Ralph or Rudolph and the French Raoul, originating from the Old English name Rædwulf (meaning "wolf counsel" or "wise counsel") through the medieval French Raoul and Old High German Radulf
- While Raul is widely recognized as a Spanish name, it is also common in many other languages and countries, including Italian, Romanian, Estonian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian.
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Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
That young man gives me strange vibes. Brownshirt type I’d like to forget.Please ignore our favourite CCP BEV huckster Globalist Bart. Only a dunderhead makes assumptions based on name.
- The name Raul is a cognate of the Anglo-Germanic names Ralph or Rudolph and the French Raoul, originating from the Old English name Rædwulf (meaning "wolf counsel" or "wise counsel") through the medieval French Raoul and Old High German Radulf
- While Raul is widely recognized as a Spanish and Portuguese name, it is also common in many other languages and countries, including Italian, Romanian, Estonian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian
Mainad
Bionic Poster
But didn't he uses his diplomatic status to help a lot of Jews escape from N azi Germany?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Your name is probably Rahul, which is Indian. Some Indian posters refer to you as Indian.
As I've mentioned many times, your go-to sources for news are Indian English-language publications.
For some reason, you want to self-identify as an American so I'm happy to accept your choices in life without demur.
As I've mentioned many times, your go-to sources for news are Indian English-language publications.
For some reason, you want to self-identify as an American so I'm happy to accept your choices in life without demur.
Please do ignore the wild speculations of our favourite CCP BEV Huckster Globalist Bart.
Only a dunderhead makes assumptions based on name.
- The name Raul is a cognate of the Anglo-Germanic names Ralph or Rudolph and the French Raoul, originating from the Old English name Rædwulf (meaning "wolf counsel" or "wise counsel") through the medieval French Raoul and Old High German Radulf
- While Raul is widely recognized as a Spanish name, it is also common in many other languages and countries, including Italian, Romanian, Estonian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Oh, sorry for my ignorance. I gave an opinion prior to doing my research, total opposite of what's the norm in these forums.
Found this
Raoul Wallenberg was a Swedish diplomat and humanitarian who played a crucial role in saving thousands of Hungarian Jews during the Holocaust. As Sweden's special envoy in Budapest in 1944, he issued protective passports and provided shelter in buildings designated as Swedish territory. His efforts helped many escape Naz i persecution. However, in January 1945, Soviet agents arrested him on suspicion of espionage, and he subsequently disappeared. His fate remains a mystery, with conflicting reports about his death in Soviet custody. His legacy is honored worldwide for his bravery and humanitarian work.
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
2023 was the centenary year of Slam Tennis, so if you think this history will be sold off then I've got a bridge to sell you ...
It depended on which countries were big players in tennis and tennis politics circa 1910s/1920s.
The original big two were Wimbledon and French to which the USA and Australia were added.
The prime mover was, of course, Wimbledon:
Grand Slam (tennis) - Wikipedia
Lleytonstation
Bionic Poster
5 would ruin everything statistics wise. It will never happen and if it does it will be a quasi fifth slam not a real one.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
If the AO did go, or if there were a fifth slam, then Spring and Summer in the Southern hemisphere would be ideal times, but all this is pie-in-the-sky.
Drob
Hall of Fame
That tournament already exists, it's called the ATP Finals.
ATP could elevate the ATP Finals to a Slam if it wanted to. It is the year-end championship.
IW and Rome should take the place of the 1,500 points currently available at ATP Finals. China could come in here but needs to start from scratch. The Shanghai set up is problematic, not first rate. The Saudis are getting in somewhere, and a1500 indoor tournament there would be interesting.
1,000 points to the rest of the current Super Nine, plus a new, grass-court tournament, possibly in South Africa. Germany should get the ATP Finals on a long-term or permanent basis, or get the new grass-court 1000.
Just a thought.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Enceladus
Legend
That's a stupid prejudice. Tennis is a diverse sport that is played both outdoors and indoors.
jon70
Semi-Pro
Pie is yummy though.
Maybe just give America another. Two Slams per popular tennis region. Indian Wells does make a lot of sense.
