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For a year and a half now, the story has been "Sinner on HC, Alcaraz on natural surfaces", and even with that Sinner has vastly outperformed Alcaraz over the season. Now he's just beaten Alcaraz at Wimbledon and had 3 match points at RG - while Alcaraz has become virtually a non-factor on HC while Sinner remains unbeatable.

Barring another twist to the story, Jannik Sinner has now reached a tier of his own. He's a huge favorite everywhere, on every surface, against everyone. Alcaraz might be consigned to having a punchers chance and scoring a couple wins here and there, a la Wawrinka being the one guy with "upset potential" in Djokovic's 2015 season.

What I saw today was genuinely shocking from Sinner. He's just from a different universe.
 
Thread is too reactionary, Alcaraz isn't suddenly irrelevant lol.

But it is true Sinner on Natural Courts is far better than Alcaraz on Fast HC
 
Lleytonstation said:
Clay specialist Carlos has been relegated
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Not even that. Sinner came this close to beating him too.

My point is that the one guy who used to reliably beat Sinner, now lost on his home turf. This feels like the equivalent to prime Federer beating Nadal at RG. The one reliable obstacle in his way being removed.

I still think Alcaraz will get wins and maintain the H2H lead, but after the last 2 Slams, I'd say Sinner is the favorite even against him.
 
As another poster said, the law is averages were due to catch up to Alcaraz. He couldn’t keep pulling the rabbit out of the hat.

That said, don’t ever count out Alcaraz. Sure, Sinner has gained on him. But Carlitos still leads the HTH 8-5, which includes 3-2 in slams. And at 22, Carlitos is still improving.

Let’s count the chickens after they hatch. At this stage of their careers, the eggs haven’t all be laid yet.
 
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I still think it’s the Big Two, just hoping it doesn’t last as long as the 2004-10 era and a third player breaks through soon.
 
StefanosRespecter said:
No, slow down there.
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Honestly I think this is way less reactionary than all the "20 Slams, CYGS" etc talk. I don't think any of that is happening.

What I do think is happening, is a clear shift in the dynamic from Sinner and Alcaraz being a duopoly, to Sinner being the sole dominant force and Alcaraz picking off wins here and there. And that's a big, big shift.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Dunderheads forget that the young Sinner is one point away from winning all three Slams this year.
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Was not is.

You’ve been very quiet since the beatdown of your fav Egg. Are you ok?

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Cabeza del Demonio said:
For a year and a half now, the story has been "Sinner on HC, Alcaraz on natural surfaces", and even with that Sinner has vastly outperformed Alcaraz over the season. Now he's just beaten Alcaraz at Wimbledon and had 3 match points at RG - while Alcaraz has become virtually a non-factor on HC while Sinner remains unbeatable.

Barring another twist to the story, Jannik Sinner has now reached a tier of his own. He's a huge favorite everywhere, on every surface, against everyone. Alcaraz might be consigned to having a punchers chance and scoring a couple wins here and there, a la Wawrinka being the one guy with "upset potential" in Djokovic's 2015 season.

What I saw today was genuinely shocking from Sinner. He's just from a different universe.
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Don't be silly. Alcaraz was on a 5-match and 3-slam winning streak against Sinner, who hadn't beat him since Beijing '23. What kind of winning streak do you call that?

I wanted Sinner to end the losing streak, because it had the smell of Federer-Nadal, phase I!
 
Alcaraz is a loser for life!

These people, it's just a win! Consider that Federer was 2-9 slams vs Nadal, pre-'14! Did Federer consider suicide? No, he came back at Nadal and won '17 AO!
 
Cabeza del Demonio said:
Sinner easily had the harder draw. Dimitrov, Shelton, Djokovic and Alcaraz is about as tough as you can get in 2025.
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Played an injured djokovic with his fall against cobolli like zverev won against novak in AO. Ridiculous pectoral injury for dimitrov probably due to excessive gains in weight this last 2 seasons. Martinez also diminished. He is not gonna play 3 injured/diminished player every time. Having one walkover/retirement here and there is fine but a hat trick is very rare.
Only decent opponents are shelton and Dimitrov.
But yeah happened the same thing with Alcaraz and Musetti in RG where lorenzo was injured after dominating carlos.
It's crazy the number of mentally or physically unfit opponents these days. Nobody can gather correctly the technical physical and mental components of tennis altogether nowadays. There is not even a wawrinka on the horizon. I still have some hope for Fonseca on clay cause at least the guy is fearless and has a good injection of pace.
 
He is at least a level above Raz. I am shocked how scared Raz was in these rallies. He hit the ball like he was defending his life from Sinner. He didnt want to be there
 
The_Order said:
How long before the Alcaraz should retire thread?
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Someone already said alcaraz regressed in a thread stating he’s not great on grass.
- alcaraz before today last lost on Easter Sunday april 20 (almost a full 3 months )
- has 4 titles on grass and a 20 match win streak in London snapped today.

Yeah I’d say after one loss in 3 months he’s no longer elite ….
 
Pheasant said:
And at 22, Carlitos is still improving
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Where? People been saying that for a couple years now. I dont see anything. I would really love if anyone show me a match from 2025 where Alcaraz plays better than in 2022-2023. His drop shots, baseline, serve, return...anything. Nothing has changed
 
3 majors to Sinner and 1 to Alcaraz in year 1

3 majors to Alcaraz and 1 to Sinner in year 2

And so on and on we go…
 
Sinner was a good ski racer. That's something that gives the body good balance, and smooth body control in any sport.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Dunderheads forget that the young Sinner is one point away from winning all three Slams this year.
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Let's also not forget that he lost his way into the qtr final of Wimby. He had a great tournament and deserves his championship, but some posters on here are conveniently blocking out the memory of his R16 match where a freak injury propelled him past an opponent that was beating him.
 
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Alcawrath said:
Let's also not forget that he lost his way into the semi final of Wimby. He had a great tournament and deserves his championship, but some posters on here are conveniently blocking out the memory of his quarterfinal match where a freak injury propelled him past an opponent that was beating him.
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In his Quarterfinal he straight setted Shelton, you mean his R16
 
Djumhur said:
Where? People been saying that for a couple years now. I dont see anything. I would really love if anyone show me a match from 2025 where Alcaraz plays better than in 2022-2023. His drop shots, baseline, serve, return...anything. Nothing has changed
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Watch the Rome final. There was no redlining only tactics from set 1 through early set 2 until he secured the break.
He’s made adjustments to alter his game where he has a variety.
He just didn’t execute well today and where he wasn’t hanging with sinner in the baseline rallies, he tried copping out with a panicked drop shot.

It’s his first loss to him in 21 months.
It’s a bit much from the talk tennis folks to start saying this is the end of alcaraz. Lol
 
Alcawrath said:
Let's also not forget that he lost his way into the qtr final of Wimby. He had a great tournament and deserves his championship, but some posters on here are conveniently blocking out the memory of his R16 match where a freak injury propelled him past an opponent that was beating him.
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Let's not selectively block out the memory of Sinner suffering the most nastiest of falls directly on his elbow in the very first set. He was severely limited.
It is miraculous that the young Sinner did not immediately retire after this horrible injury.
All very graphic and difficult to watch. But it was a true profile in courage.

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