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MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
Maybe you have a video of yours that you can show us so everyone can see how it’s done?
No need. I've played with frames that were rated 70 RA and 57 RA and everything in between. I've never had wrist issues and I've got some boney wrists. No meat at all around them and I hit HARD and with loads of RPM.

I've had plenty of tennis elbows from various setups. Never wrist pain.

I'm also not going to drive to the tennis courts and hit a few forehands and find a way to record it all at the same time, upload it here just to prove a point.
 

achapa8807

Semi-Pro
Doesn't matter what the flex is. If you're wrist is hurting, then it's technique.
I'd say it could be a combination of string as well as technique. I know the EZONE is off topic but I didn't have arm issues with it. Could easily provide a video of me hitting soft tosses.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
No need. I've played with frames that were rated 70 RA and 57 RA and everything in between. I've never had wrist issues and I've got some boney wrists. No meat at all around them and I hit HARD and with loads of RPM.

I've had plenty of tennis elbows from various setups. Never wrist pain.

I'm also not going to drive to the tennis courts and hit a few forehands and find a way to record it all at the same time, upload it here just to prove a point.
You just talk a lot and seem to enjoy putting down others game without any proof of your own. Seems like you are hyper defensive of a racquet you havent even used yet.

Have you hit with anyone from tt who can attest to your loads of power and rpm?
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
You just talk a lot and seem to enjoy putting down others game without any proof of your own. Seems like you are hyper defensive of a racquet you havent even used yet.

Have you hit with anyone from tt who can attest to your loads of power and rpm?
Watched Dimitrov practicing today in Vegas. He was just crushing the ball against 2 UNLV players that were his 2 on 1 hitting partners for the day. Loads of power!
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
You just talk a lot and seem to enjoy putting down others game without any proof of your own. Seems like you are hyper defensive of a racquet you havent even used yet.

Have you hit with anyone from tt who can attest to your loads of power and rpm?
I doubt very few here on ttw live anywhere close to where I am. If they did, I'd be more than happy to show them my arsenal on a tennis court. I hit 2500 to 3000 rpm on my forehands easy. My neutral fh rally is 65ish. But can juice it to 75 to 80mph when I want to punish the ball. No wrist problems here ever. It's not your equipment. Its technique and mechanics. Lol
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I doubt very few here on ttw live anywhere close to where I am. If they did, I'd be more than happy to show them my arsenal on a tennis court. I hit 2500 to 3000 rpm on my forehands easy. My neutral fh rally is 65ish. But can juice it to 75 to 80mph when I want to punish the ball. No wrist problems here ever. It's not your equipment. Its technique and mechanics. Lol
Sure bud. Lol. You sound like you are 12. Good luck with your star wars fantasies.
 

diddyac

New User
I doubt very few here on ttw live anywhere close to where I am. If they did, I'd be more than happy to show them my arsenal on a tennis court. I hit 2500 to 3000 rpm on my forehands easy. My neutral fh rally is 65ish. But can juice it to 75 to 80mph when I want to punish the ball. No wrist problems here ever. It's not your equipment. Its technique and mechanics. Lol
Haha, cmon bruhh, a 75-80mph forehand is not that impressive
 
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I might end up coming back to the Yonex HD (320), but after hitting again tonight with the Blade and having the same result with my forehand, pushing people off the baseline with topspin, I bought a Blade. I have an eastern grip, long strokes, not whippy, and for some reason I get that little bit extra something out of the blade on the baseline without sacrificing anything, in my opinion, in other areas of my game using the HD.
Also used the TW racket recommender and noticed they prove scientifically there is a slightly better response from the Blade's sweet spot, both in size and effect on the ball when compared to the HD. If the Blade didn't exist, I could play well with the Yonex, but I want that extra forgiveness for my rec game that the Blade seems to have.

I was completely anti-Blade before I playtested it, just goes to show, a demo is the best thing to do.
 

!<-_->!

Hall of Fame
Anyone wish the 18x20 was desner? Specs remind of of the Youtek Prestige MP, but the Prestige has a denser pattern. Was a big fan of the Youtek Prestige.
 

Kozzy

Semi-Pro
Anyone wish the 18x20 was desner? Specs remind of of the Youtek Prestige MP, but the Prestige has a denser pattern. Was a big fan of the Youtek Prestige.
I wouldn't mind if it were a bit denser. That's perhaps my one complaint.
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
Yeah...still not really - Are you also trying to impress me that you waste half your life on a forum talking yourself up? lol :-D
I'm not trying to impress anyone.

"yeah still not really"

So next time you see Federer, tell him his 75mph rally forehand isn't that good.
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
So because you can hit 75mph forehands, that it's comparable to Federer, because he can too, is what you're essentially saying - My mistakes bro, i apologize, you are the best player I've seen, what a beast
Anyone can hit a 75 mph forehand. I never said it was like Fed's. It's a 70-75mph FH on the 4.5 level. There's a difference there mate lol. You can stop replying now New User. This is done.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
So I hit with it little at the wall, match pending Wed or Thur and I will know more but for now, if hitting at the wall did not fool me, this is closer to Pt630 than Blade IMHO. They are both great its just if somenone is looking for direct replacement I would go with yonex HD (providing that the head shape is not an issue like it is for Michelle lol).
Blade has that advantage of being lighter overall so that's hard to beat.
 
Anyone wish the 18x20 was desner? Specs remind of of the Youtek Prestige MP, but the Prestige has a denser pattern. Was a big fan of the Youtek Prestige.
Yes, might be why I like the Blade. The HD next to the Vcore 330, to the naked eye, looks like the same string openess, spacing is hard to distinguish.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
a 75-80 rally ball that is consistent is.

"cmon bruh" New User w/ 5 posts. :sneaky:
So since you are in such a remote tennis location where apparently you cant film or find anyone from here to play with what are you measuring your mph and rpms with? Clearly not a playsight court.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
So I hit with it little at the wall, match pending Wed or Thur and I will know more but for now, if hitting at the wall did not fool me, this is closer to Pt630 than Blade IMHO. They are both great its just if somenone is looking for direct replacement I would go with yonex HD (providing that the head shape is not an issue like it is for Michelle lol).
Blade has that advantage of being lighter overall so that's hard to beat.
I think the hd is softer personally. I just hit with my pt280 and blade this am.
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
So since you are in such a remote tennis location where apparently you cant film or find anyone from here to play with what are you measuring your mph and rpms with? Clearly not a playsight court.
portable radar gun that I borrowed from one of my tennis partners. it was around $100 so it's probably a few mph off give or take. serves were around 95-100. when we were warming up before playing one day he brought it out and we set it up on my side of the court so it could tag groundstroke speeds.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
portable radar gun that I borrowed from one of my tennis partners. it was around $100 so it's probably a few mph off give or take. serves were around 95-100. when we were warming up before playing one day he brought it out and we set it up on my side of the court so it could tag groundstroke speeds.

How about rpms? Only time ive seen that measured was on a playsight court.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I wonder how much of that is due to the age of your pt. I remember one of mine flexed at 54 I presume due to age

Either way they both feel great
I love the feel of the hd. But i also love the blades feel and the results. Such a heavy ball with so much spin for me. It helped to have a coach tell me because i liked using them both. It just wasnt realistic for competitive play to switch between them.
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
How about rpms? Only time ive seen that measured was on a playsight court.
After watching many tennis video reviews from the TW playtesters and seeing some of their higher RPM ranges, I know for a fact that I can hit a more aggressive and RPM loaded ball compared to some of them. I would really like to see the RPM measured on my forehand and my one hander. Both are hit very aggressively. Should easily be near 3000.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
After watching many tennis video reviews from the TW playtesters and seeing some of their higher RPM ranges, I know for a fact that I can hit a more aggressive and RPM loaded ball compared to some of them. I would really like to see the RPM measured on my forehand and my one hander. Both are hit very aggressively. Should easily be near 3000.
Lol, ok thats all I needed thank you.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I might end up coming back to the Yonex HD (320), but after hitting again tonight with the Blade and having the same result with my forehand, pushing people off the baseline with topspin, I bought a Blade. I have an eastern grip, long strokes, not whippy, and for some reason I get that little bit extra something out of the blade on the baseline without sacrificing anything, in my opinion, in other areas of my game using the HD.
Also used the TW racket recommender and noticed they prove scientifically there is a slightly better response from the Blade's sweet spot, both in size and effect on the ball when compared to the HD. If the Blade didn't exist, I could play well with the Yonex, but I want that extra forgiveness for my rec game that the Blade seems to have.

I was completely anti-Blade before I playtested it, just goes to show, a demo is the best thing to do.
Yeah we have the same experience there. I got the same feedback from coaches and hitting partners as well. The Blade is awesome for pushing people back with heavy spin. And yes, the pattern is more closed, but racquet physics says that lighter static weight equals more racquet speed. So you are most likely getting higher tip speed which means more spin. It’s also not too hard to keep the trajectory high either.

Lots of really nice soft frames popping out this year. Glad I got to try two of them.
 
Yeah we have the same experience there. I got the same feedback from coaches and hitting partners as well. The Blade is awesome for pushing people back with heavy spin. And yes, the pattern is more closed, but racquet physics says that lighter static weight equals more racquet speed. So you are most likely getting higher tip speed which means more spin. It’s also not too hard to keep the trajectory high either.

Lots of really nice soft frames popping out this year. Glad I got to try two of them.
Cool, I appreciate your posts, part of the reason I tried the Blade again was your posts and others praising it. I kept thinking this many people can't be wrong. I still can't hang with the 93p Prince, despite everyone's love for it, so I have my limits lol.
 

Dansan

Rookie
On this warm summa' day I went to have a hit with the new gal on the block, the blade V7 and the HD. The HD is anotha' mistress awaitin' in my bag of bags along with the rest of em'

The blade spoke to me, sang a song of spin and ease. Power as it were. Control to boot ! I'll be making another appointment with this gal after I gave the ole' wood shampoo' to an unsuspectin' 3.5 ball basha ! I say 6-2, 6-1, 6-1 ! Hallelujah!!

I have seen the light, in these times a darkness, these time's a switchin' and cheatin'. The blade V7 and the HD, poised fah greatness I say !

The blade performed well. I served bombs, hit winners, and controlled the points with ease. The blade excels at spin, power, serves. It's just an easier racquet to play with and feels good too. I got some compliments on my game today when playing with it. The HD will stay in my bag, I took the 12 oclock weight off, and kept the 3/9 lead on the HD and it just works better so far. I'm going to keep trying both, the blade is stock and feels great as is. It's a close one between the two.
 

Kozzy

Semi-Pro
I got crushed last night by a 4.5 guy that I play with (I'm a 4.0). He's just better than me, and no racquet will change that. But, we do have a lot of great rallies and games, and sometimes I make it interesting. This racquet can really wallop the ball. I'm not known for hitting lots of winners, but I had quite a few. I was also struggling a bit with my aim, but that also happens to me sometimes, and in this case it was more likely due to being on my back foot too often. When I got anything short, I was hammering it. I'm loving it on serves, overheads, and volleys as well.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
I got crushed last night by a 4.5 guy that I play with (I'm a 4.0). He's just better than me, and no racquet will change that. But, we do have a lot of great rallies and games, and sometimes I make it interesting. This racquet can really wallop the ball. I'm not known for hitting lots of winners, but I had quite a few. I was also struggling a bit with my aim, but that also happens to me sometimes, and in this case it was more likely due to being on my back foot too often. When I got anything short, I was hammering it. I'm loving it on serves, overheads, and volleys as well.
keep fighting the good fight, itll pay dividends.
 

jmk223

New User
I've been hitting with HD for the past couple of weeks, strung with gut/lux hybrid and with about 10g total split up between 9/3 and the handle. I'm a 4.0 with a SW forehand and a one handed backhand. So, far everything have been great, racket feel super comfortable, ground strokes and serves are solid and I'm slowly getting my volleys back, except for two things. First, I broke the string after less than 6 hours of play but that can be addressed with a thicker gauge. Second issue looks more problematic, I can't figure out how to control my backhand slice. I tend to use it often, both as a defensive shot and as a change of pace, especially against 2HBH. It feels to me like the hoop somehow is too soft and to get any kind of depth I almost have to swing at the ball which is not a good thing. Did anyone experience anything similar and/or has any thoughts on how to get it going? As a reference, this morning I hit with TF40 strung with Ice Code and HD was better in every aspect, except for slice which was much more controllable with TF40.
 

Addxyz

Semi-Pro
I've been hitting with HD for the past couple of weeks, strung with gut/lux hybrid and with about 10g total split up between 9/3 and the handle. I'm a 4.0 with a SW forehand and a one handed backhand. So, far everything have been great, racket feel super comfortable, ground strokes and serves are solid and I'm slowly getting my volleys back, except for two things. First, I broke the string after less than 6 hours of play but that can be addressed with a thicker gauge. Second issue looks more problematic, I can't figure out how to control my backhand slice. I tend to use it often, both as a defensive shot and as a change of pace, especially against 2HBH. It feels to me like the hoop somehow is too soft and to get any kind of depth I almost have to swing at the ball which is not a good thing. Did anyone experience anything similar and/or has any thoughts on how to get it going? As a reference, this morning I hit with TF40 strung with Ice Code and HD was better in every aspect, except for slice which was much more controllable with TF40.
What kind of gut hybrid? Tension? Curious about next stringing.
 

jmk223

New User
What kind of gut hybrid? Tension? Curious about next stringing.
VS Team 17/ Lux Fluoro 17

I started with my current setup (leaded up Donnay Platinum) at 52/50 and took it up to 54/52 after the first one broke. If I can resolve my slice problem, next time I'll probably go up another 2lbs.
 

skeeter

Professional
I also posted this question in the Pro 97 thread, and this diverges a bit from the HD which most folks on this thread seem to prefer, but has anyone had an opportunity to do a one-on-one comparison between the older version of the VCP 310 with the recently released update of this racquet? I have the previous 310 (and I know PP played with it for a bit, leaded to 320), but I'm curious if there are any discernable differences/improvements in feel, power, control, etc. between this and the new emerald version, or if the update (despite the marketing of improved vibration dampening in the handle in the new releases) is largely just cosmetic. Thanks.
 

SumYungGai

Semi-Pro
Thanks I know it’s been a while too.. the tc97 is my personal reference if a racquet suits me..
I really want to try the tc97, but obviously there are no demos near me. I really want a racquet that feels like the old prestiges. Will a V3 TC97 18x20 have this feel?
 

Chidoc

New User
I only played one session with the v7 though it felt more like a more controlled version of the clash, more of a modern Racquet feel and not as plush as the HD.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I dont know. The hd doesnt feel like a prestige to me as much as it feels like a classic yonex, like the rdis. And the blade is like a pt280. A prestige has a different sweet spot, imo. Only similarity is that they are both small.

The 18x20 doesnt really feel at all like a clash.
 
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