The orange Tour G 310 was much closer to 59 than the listed 63. I played it for a year and switched to Duel G 310 that is 64 and there is a big difference in flex. The Tour G is a lot more plush, I could crush OHBH, but could never the get my FH to work as well as the Duel G, same with first serve, returns, pick ups and volleys. Lead did not help either.
I think the DR 98 and the Vcore Pro (310) are very similar. But like you said, the DR 100 is different than the DR 98. If you want something with similar feel and power if the DR 100, I suspect the Vcore Pro 97 would be very different. Perhaps the Vcore Pro 100 would be closer, but i would think the Vcore (non-pro) line would be a closer fit- try the Vcore 98 (305) or maybe the Vcore 100 (300). Those two frames are going to be stiffer and a bit more powerful...this is assuming you are wanting to stay with something close to what you are using in terms of stiffness, power, weight, etc..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I have actually been thinking about the DR98 (or the new ezones coming 2020) or VCP 97 because I'm gravitating to switching to control oriented racquets as I'm evolving my game and therefore have been able to generate my own power and also playing against bigger hitters which demands more control on some shots.
Exactly why I was disappointed it’s not that he or tour g were bad it’s just that I was expecting more...
I have not tried this with a VCP 310 or Emerald 310, but with my Duel G, I have 4g under the bumper in eight strips, so it's spread out. This makes it feel like it's part of the hoop vs just lead inside the hoop -- which I can feel more. With 17g gut and Alu Rough it's at 340g and 7 pts HL, it had plenty of plow and stability, but is still quick.
Ive been playing HL racquets (modified Prince Graphite 100 to about 12.2oz and 7pts HL) and my shoulder really is feeling the blade 18x20 after one match from serving. Perhaps my body needs to get used to the different balance with that identical SW but boy my shoulder feels similar to it did last time I had to give up the blades in 2014.
It's been raining all week, so my demos have been cut down to only 3hrs with both racquets. Caveats off the bat: Short demo time. Both racquets were an L2, I'm usually an L3. The HD was strung with a FB of YPTP (and seemed quite worn in) which I don't usually love... hoping that doesn't influence my opinion. This was my first time hitting with 18x20 racquets.Just picked up my demos excited to try them out after reading all your feedback. Let's see if one of these pull me away from my DR.
I feel as if this frame has the flex when there is a lot of force through one's swing. I'm not saying other people here hit soft by any means but heck, even my wife, who was just bouncing balls, could tell it was flexible. I almost wish the 330 had this amount of flex. Flat ball hitters should love this stick. I am going to continue hitting with this frame for a while until January when I can make a choice on the frames I'll be getting for the new year. I may end up with old faithful, the VCP 330. I love the stability that frame provides. The mesh dampening system does indeed work.
Which leather grip did you use? It seemed like a few folks that did that were up to around 350-355g static weight.
It was a Wilson leather grip. I strung it with poly / multi hybrid though. The multi (genesis Thunder Blast) is much lighter than poly. And my frame came just slightly under spec at 318g
Had those racquets the same grip size ?
Yes and yes.
Then I would try a softer poly and a thick gauge
I didnt get TE with the same string in 3 other rackets, something about that blade 18x20 got me. I dont break strings though so I think thinner is better for TE
No, thin strings vibrate at higher frequencies and should hurt more
Lynx is a bit softer than Hyper-G, just look in the TW University...186 vs 219 stiffness rating. I never got on with Hyper-G and found it to be plasticky in every frame I played it in.
l love hyper g in the HdD
Yeah, I'm battling with it in my Phantom 93P 18x20 strung at 48/45... Only put it in as was looking to use up the green string colour and it goes well with the racquet paint scheme.
Yes, some thin poly are sometimes stiffer than their thicker counterparts, esp. at higher tensions.
curious as well - also wondering if the new green 330 has any similarities to the prior 330 duel g frame?
I just got my hands on a VCore Tour G 330g in what looks like a pretty good condition. We'll see when it arrives
When I demoed the HD, it had a full multi string setup. I thought the racquet felt extremely plush and comfortable with that setup. However, I don't use full multi strings, as i can only get about 6 to 10 hours before strings break. The frame is comfortable enough where I'm able to use my typical poly / synthetic gut hybrid with no arm issues. As far as full gut, I have not tried, but I did do a natural gut mains / poly cross. This was comfortable and does add a bit of "pop" back into the frame from the natural gut power. If you're looking to add a bit more power to your current string setup, I think the natural gut / poly hybrid is worth trying. I'm interested in how this setup compares to my poly / synthetic gut hybrid when I start playing in much cooler temperatures (which is likely to be tonight indoors as temperatures have dropped about 30 degrees in the last 24 hrs where I'm at). Also, I string my own racquets, and I did notice that the frame did distort a bit after stringing it with the natural gut / poly. I typically like to string my poly crosses about 4 lbs less than the natural gut mains. The frame came out about 3 mm shorter after stringing, which I attribute to the low flex rating of the frame combined with the lower cross tension differential. Next time I use this string combination, I'll probably string the gut mains a bit lower but not use a lower cross string tension for the polys. This should probably eliminate the racquet deformation.
Ok that's kind of what I figured. I noticed the beam design is exactly the same between the two versions. So, would you say swingweight and maneuverability are about the same?
yes
the weight is what sticks out the most to me about the Yonex VCORE PRO 97HD, i felt it was a tad bit heavy;
So I ordered it with the vs gut/rpm prepackaged hybrid. Requested gut mains but there was a goof and got poly mains instead. Think I requested 52 or 50lbs. I occasionally have arm pain if I play a bit too much, so I thought of cutting it and trying out vs/poly tour pro. Have that sitting around, part of me didn't want to waste good gut. I've had this setup for a few months now and it's held up pretty well. Haven't noticed any significant loss in playability. Although I will say that I'm not somebody who's taking huge cuts at the ball, so I don't eat through strings.
I strung my HD up with Natural gut mains / ALU power soft crosses. It's been my preferred string setup that I've tried so far, as the natural gut gives the frame that extra bit of power. Of course, the natural gut mains only enhances the overall excellent feel the frame has. Definitely recommend trying a guy / poly hybrid with this frame if you haven't already!