It's now on the Yonex Website! VCORE Pro EMERALD

joaovitorss

New User
I am really tempted to get a VCP, either 310 or HD, probably the 310 as I’m used to a 16x19 string pattern.
My only concern is that I’m have been using the DR100 for sometime now and it’s kind of a powerful and stiffer racquet. Does anyone have any comments about this transition?

I’m a 4.0 player baseliner with a two handed backhand, been on a rise lately, 6’0 180lbs, doesn’t really have problem generating my own power.
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
I had the same experience and did not think it was much if any different than orange Vcore g 97 whatever it was called.
The orange Tour G 310 was much closer to 59 than the listed 63. I played it for a year and switched to Duel G 310 that is 64 and there is a big difference in flex. The Tour G is a lot more plush, I could crush OHBH, but could never the get my FH to work as well as the Duel G, same with first serve, returns, pick ups and volleys. Lead did not help either.

The HD actually feels crisper than the Tour G.
 
I am really tempted to get a VCP, either 310 or HD, probably the 310 as I’m used to a 16x19 string pattern.
My only concern is that I’m have been using the DR100 for sometime now and it’s kind of a powerful and stiffer racquet. Does anyone have any comments about this transition?

I’m a 4.0 player baseliner with a two handed backhand, been on a rise lately, 6’0 180lbs, doesn’t really have problem generating my own power.
I think the DR 98 and the Vcore Pro (310) are very similar. But like you said, the DR 100 is different than the DR 98. If you want something with similar feel and power if the DR 100, I suspect the Vcore Pro 97 would be very different. Perhaps the Vcore Pro 100 would be closer, but i would think the Vcore (non-pro) line would be a closer fit- try the Vcore 98 (305) or maybe the Vcore 100 (300). Those two frames are going to be stiffer and a bit more powerful...this is assuming you are wanting to stay with something close to what you are using in terms of stiffness, power, weight, etc..
 

joaovitorss

New User
I think the DR 98 and the Vcore Pro (310) are very similar. But like you said, the DR 100 is different than the DR 98. If you want something with similar feel and power if the DR 100, I suspect the Vcore Pro 97 would be very different. Perhaps the Vcore Pro 100 would be closer, but i would think the Vcore (non-pro) line would be a closer fit- try the Vcore 98 (305) or maybe the Vcore 100 (300). Those two frames are going to be stiffer and a bit more powerful...this is assuming you are wanting to stay with something close to what you are using in terms of stiffness, power, weight, etc..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I have actually been thinking about the DR98 (or the new ezones coming 2020) or VCP 97 because I'm gravitating to switching to control oriented racquets as I'm evolving my game and therefore have been able to generate my own power and also playing against bigger hitters which demands more control on some shots.
I'm probably not gonna get a new one right now, maybe next year so I'll have the new ezones 98, VCP 97 310 and VC 98 to consider. But definitely not leaving Yonex.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
The orange Tour G 310 was much closer to 59 than the listed 63. I played it for a year and switched to Duel G 310 that is 64 and there is a big difference in flex. The Tour G is a lot more plush, I could crush OHBH, but could never the get my FH to work as well as the Duel G, same with first serve, returns, pick ups and volleys. Lead did not help either.

The HD actually feels crisper than the Tour G.
Exactly why I was disappointed it’s not that he or tour g were bad it’s just that I was expecting more...
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
I got the TW demos today and took them out to the court for a couple of hours. All came strung with Yonex 16G Poly tour pro at 53lbs and I was the first person to use them so tension was the same on all three.

Here were the demo racquets specs:

310 - 324 SW and 328 grams
HD - 328 SW and 337 grams
330 - 340 SW and 346 grams

All three felt good but I prefer the 330 due to the stability, plow, and control. I was surprised at how much I love the 330 version. It is as stable as RF 97A but more giving with a little bit less power. This racquet definitely feels like you can just crush flat balls.
The 310 version feels good but due to lower SW of 324, you have to add lead tape to give it a bit more stability. It has a lot of power but I don't have the required racquet head speed to generate enough spin to keep the ball in the court. The 310 produces a higher launch angle than the 330 version and for it's weight and SW, I think it is one of the better racquets in it's class. I am pretty sure if you spend a good amount of time customizing it, it will be a nice racquet. I never had much luck in the past with these type of racquets.

Having been a former owner of an over spec HD around SW of 343, I thought the lower SW would have made this the perfect racquet and a possible contender to my Blade v7. After hitting with this racquet, it does have a smaller sweet spot and does feel a bit stiff if you don't hit the sweet spot. If you hit close to the top of the racquet, it definitely feels slightly less forgiving than the 330.

I have tried out past 330 versions include the Tour G and Duel G and find this to be a more comfortable than those two racquets. I think the dampening system they put into this racquet helps with the stiffness.

The 330 probably won't replace my Blade v7 mainly because it is too hefty for me to swing during a match. When you add an overgrip and dampener, the racquet will end up around 12.4 to 12.5oz whichis totally out of my league. My prefer specs are 330-335 SW and around 12oz.
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
The 310 version feels good but due to lower SW of 324, you have to add lead tape to give it a bit more stability.
I have not tried this with a VCP 310 or Emerald 310, but with my Duel G, I have 4g under the bumper in eight strips, so it's spread out. This makes it feel like it's part of the hoop vs just lead inside the hoop -- which I can feel more. With 17g gut and Alu Rough it's at 340g and 7 pts HL, it had plenty of plow and stability, but is still quick.

To anyone who has just added lead to inside the hoop, try under the bumper with the 310, it's completely a different stick. I know this is not a profound statement to those who have done this, but it makes a different with the thin isometric beam.
 
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matchpoint9

Rookie
I played with Angell K7 Lime in the past year and was looking for something with a little more free power. I demoed the HD and Blade and thought that the Blade was exactly what I was looking for. The HD felt similar to the Lime overall except for a higher launch angle. So I ‘switched’ to V7 18x20 and sold all 3 of my Lime. But after playing a couple of usta doubles matches with the Blade, I decided that I need to stick to headlight racquets. The Blade felt slow to me for net-to-net exchanges, which is important for doubles. It’s maneuverable but maybe not quick enough through the air? I tried to tail-weight the Blade but I didn’t gel with it.

Anyways, I got a new HD arriving today and really looking forward to it!



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jbdbackfan

Rookie
I played with Angell K7 Lime in the past year and was looking for something with a little more free power. I demoed the HD and Blade and thought that the Blade was exactly what I was looking for. The HD felt similar to the Lime overall except for a higher launch angle. So I ‘switched’ to V7 18x20 and sold all 3 of my Lime. But after playing a couple of usta doubles matches with the Blade, I decided that I need to stick to headlight racquets. The Blade felt slow to me for net-to-net exchanges, which is important for doubles. It’s maneuverable but maybe not quick enough through the air? I tried to tail-weight the Blade but I didn’t gel with it.

Anyways, I got a new HD arriving today and really looking forward to it!



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Ive been playing HL racquets (modified Prince Graphite 100 to about 12.2oz and 7pts HL) and my shoulder really is feeling the blade 18x20 after one match from serving. Perhaps my body needs to get used to the different balance with that identical SW but boy my shoulder feels similar to it did last time I had to give up the blades in 2014.
 

Znak

Semi-Pro
Just picked up my demos excited to try them out after reading all your feedback. Let's see if one of these pull me away from my DR.

It's been raining all week, so my demos have been cut down to only 3hrs with both racquets. Caveats off the bat: Short demo time. Both racquets were an L2, I'm usually an L3. The HD was strung with a FB of YPTP (and seemed quite worn in) which I don't usually love... hoping that doesn't influence my opinion. This was my first time hitting with 18x20 racquets.

Initial thoughts

VCP HD: I honestly thought reading the reviews this stick was going to be magic.. 59 RA! I found this to hit much stiffer than that unfortunately. There was a plastic-y feel to it that reminded me of the new EZONE (and again it could have been the YPTP). Not quite as stiff in the upper hoop, but there were some similarities. I was shocked however at how manoeuvrable the racquet was, I wouldn't have thought it was 10g heavier than my DR, (it almost felt lighter!) as it cuts through the air superbly. On my groundstrokes I found that I really had to step into my forehand, but that could have been an adjustment to the pattern I don't know. On my OHBH I found it similar to my DR but with a bit more precision. I thought it really excelled on my backhand slice, drop shots and volleys. At net is where I was really impressed... I wish my DR played that well. Serves were fine, I didn't notice any pros or cons. Return of serves were appreciated I wasn't getting pushed around as much as I do with the DR.

Blade 18x20 v7: This one shocked me. I demoed the 104 CV back in the day and hated it, found it a clumsy racquet with no feel. This one was the opposite. If my DR's flex is pillowy, this one is buttery... and my impression was that there was more feel at contact as well — something that I think is lost in the DR (it's almost too plush). I don't know if my style and form are evolving, but I really really appreciated this higher swingweight; and while it's a lighter racquet, it felt heftier than the HD. My forehands were noticeably more consistent and heavier, however, I struggled to find my timing with my OHBH and was shanking it a bit. Same comment about volleys, I loved this at net, found I could pick my points well. Serve I wasn't landing my first as consistently as the HD, but my slice and kick were ripping.

I've been a Yonex fanboy for some time now, but the Wilson definitely has me interested. Will I leave my DR anytime soon? No, but I might want to re-demo the 18x20 v7 and the 16x19 v7 and add one of those to my bag — it was really really fun play.

Verdict

VCP HD: I'd text the next day, thanks for the coffee yesterday! I think you're great, but I don't know if we quite connected. I wish you all the best!

Blade v7: I'd text the next day, hey, that was a lot of fun! I'd really like to hang out again, are you free for dinner next Tuesday?
 

SumYungGai

Semi-Pro
So I finally was able to hit with this racquet for an extended amount of time. Here are my thoughts (HD strung with PTP at 50 lbs). I am a 5.5 player for reference.

The racquet is indeed flexible. It feels decent on contact and is certainly not muted. On groundies (topspin) I felt exactly where I was hitting on the string bed, which is both good and bad. When hitting the sweet spot it feels fantastic, but hitting anything outside of it doesn't. I'm used to 18x20's and the feel around the string bed in the HD varies too much for my taste. Though when flattening out winners it felt great and I think those who hit a flatter ball will love this frame. On slices and touch shots this racquet felt great, exactly as I had hoped. Easy to generate spin, and easy touch for pick-ups, etc.

Volleys were good, but again when not hitting precisely in the sweet spot there's a vast difference and shots will come of the racquet weaker (as you would probably expect). Overall, solid at the net and touch comes easy as it is fairly stable. Might actually be better with a tad more weight but its maneuverability is a strong point.

Serves were great. Good pop and hitting spots came easy but not much free power, if any.

So overall from the HD it's about what I expected from an 18x20 players frame, but I wish there was more stability inherently in the frame. If I was going to use it I would add weight. Great touch and soft feel nonetheless. Solid players frame but nothing special, besides the gorgeous paint job.
 

achapa8807

Semi-Pro
So I finally was able to hit with this racquet for an extended amount of time. Here are my thoughts (HD strung with PTP at 50 lbs). I am a 5.5 player for reference.

The racquet is indeed flexible. It feels decent on contact and is certainly not muted. On groundies (topspin) I felt exactly where I was hitting on the string bed, which is both good and bad. When hitting the sweet spot it feels fantastic, but hitting anything outside of it doesn't. I'm used to 18x20's and the feel around the string bed in the HD varies too much for my taste. Though when flattening out winners it felt great and I think those who hit a flatter ball will love this frame. On slices and touch shots this racquet felt great, exactly as I had hoped. Easy to generate spin, and easy touch for pick-ups, etc.

Volleys were good, but again when not hitting precisely in the sweet spot there's a vast difference and shots will come of the racquet weaker (as you would probably expect). Overall, solid at the net and touch comes easy as it is fairly stable. Might actually be better with a tad more weight but its maneuverability is a strong point.

Serves were great. Good pop and hitting spots came easy but not much free power, if any.

So overall from the HD it's about what I expected from an 18x20 players frame, but I wish there was more stability inherently in the frame. If I was going to use it I would add weight. Great touch and soft feel nonetheless. Solid players frame but nothing special, besides the gorgeous paint job.
I feel as if this frame has the flex when there is a lot of force through one's swing. I'm not saying other people here hit soft by any means but heck, even my wife, who was just bouncing balls, could tell it was flexible. I almost wish the 330 had this amount of flex. Flat ball hitters should love this stick. I am going to continue hitting with this frame for a while until January when I can make a choice on the frames I'll be getting for the new year. I may end up with old faithful, the VCP 330. I love the stability that frame provides. The mesh dampening system does indeed work.
 
Tons of smart tennis people on this thread so I need help.

Problem: Tennis elbow using Solinco Hyper G 17 at 50lbs in my new Blade 18x20.

Background: no tennis elbow demoing Yonex HD and Wilson Blade full poly for multiple singles matches.

Solution: restringing tomorrow

Question: what string setup?

Thanks!
 

ls206

Professional
@FuzzyYellowBalls what racquet and string were you using before?

Edit: I see you’ve had some responses in the blade thread.
Just to clarify, you have golfers elbow (inside) not tennis elbow (outside)

My guess would be that your forehand and service timing is late with the blade. But it would be best to get a professional to confirm
 

fundrazer

Legend
Had a fun match yesterday. I got destroyed but I felt like I played okay enough and that the other guy was just better at everything.

Probably had at least 5 down the line forehand winners. Gonna reiterate again that you can hit big shots with this thing. Requires some effort, but man is it good. The main thing though is with my forehand + the lower launch angle it makes for thin margins sometimes. Not clearing the net by much, but it takes a lot of time away from the opponent.

This will be the stick for me for the foreseeable future. I'm happy with it from all areas of the court.
 

matchpoint9

Rookie
My first outing with the HD today. 348g all in with leather grip, OG, dampener. Unstrung was 318g. From the baseline it swings a little too fast for me so I’m debating whether I should increase the sw a little bit.

For those who have added some lead or tungsten tape at the hoop, do you find that the racquet retains its characteristics and maneuverability? I’m talking about small additional weight. Some racquets seem really sensitive to modification, like the Blade V7 which to me is better in stock form.

I’m out of tungsten tape otherwise I’d have put 2-3g at 12 and see how it plays. But my net game, serve, and return of serve were great today so I’m not really sure if I want to add weight? I think it would help hit a heavier ball from the baseline but might make everything else worse?


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Addxyz

Semi-Pro
My first outing with the HD today. 348g all in with leather grip, OG, dampener. Unstrung was 318g. From the baseline it swings a little too fast for me so I’m debating whether I should increase the sw a little bit.

For those who have added some lead or tungsten tape at the hoop, do you find that the racquet retains its characteristics and maneuverability? I’m talking about small additional weight. Some racquets seem really sensitive to modification, like the Blade V7 which to me is better in stock form.

I’m out of tungsten tape otherwise I’d have put 2-3g at 12 and see how it plays. But my net game, serve, and return of serve were great today so I’m not really sure if I want to add weight? I think it would help hit a heavier ball from the baseline but might make everything else worse?


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Which leather grip did you use? It seemed like a few folks that did that were up to around 350-355g static weight.
 

matchpoint9

Rookie
Which leather grip did you use? It seemed like a few folks that did that were up to around 350-355g static weight.
It was a Wilson leather grip. I strung it with poly / multi hybrid though. The multi (genesis Thunder Blast) is much lighter than poly. And my frame came just slightly under spec at 318g


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parasailing

Hall of Fame
I took the Vcore Pro 330 HG for a couple hours of hitting. So far, this racquet has been a hit or miss. Today, hitting with it felt good. Yesterday it didn't. I guess I am struggling with the weight of the racquet though I do love how the racquet hits. If you can hit towards to the top of the frame, it can produce a heavy ball with pace. I think this is due to the SW and heft of the racquet.

I am still wondering if I should try to get a under spec version similar to my Blade 98 v7. I love how the racquet feels and can't seem to produce this even with lead tape and weight even on the 310 and HD version.
 

Boubi

Rookie
Tons of smart tennis people on this thread so I need help.

Problem: Tennis elbow using Solinco Hyper G 17 at 50lbs in my new Blade 18x20.

Background: no tennis elbow demoing Yonex HD and Wilson Blade full poly for multiple singles matches.

Solution: restringing tomorrow

Question: what string setup?

Thanks!
Had those racquets the same grip size ?
Do u always play with new balls ?
 
Then I would try a softer poly and a thick gauge
I personnally use cyclone 16, never had any tennis elbow
I didnt get TE with the same string in 3 other rackets, something about that blade 18x20 got me. I dont break strings though so I think thinner is better for TE
 

Boubi

Rookie
I didnt get TE with the same string in 3 other rackets, something about that blade 18x20 got me. I dont break strings though so I think thinner is better for TE
No, thin strings vibrate at higher frequencies and should hurt more
TE might be related on your grip though. Do u hold firmly your racquet ?
 

achapa8807

Semi-Pro
I replaced the string with Head lynx or something like that and poof, TE gone. It was just solinco hyper and blade not a good combo for me
Lynx is a bit softer than Hyper-G, just look in the TW University...186 vs 219 stiffness rating. I never got on with Hyper-G and found it to be plasticky in every frame I played it in.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Lynx is a bit softer than Hyper-G, just look in the TW University...186 vs 219 stiffness rating. I never got on with Hyper-G and found it to be plasticky in every frame I played it in.
Yeah, I'm battling with it in my Phantom 93P 18x20 strung at 48/45... Only put it in as was looking to use up the green string colour and it goes well with the racquet paint scheme.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
No, thin strings vibrate at higher frequencies and should hurt more
TE might be related on your grip though. Do u hold firmly your racquet ?
Yes, some thin poly are sometimes stiffer than their thicker counterparts, esp. at higher tensions.
 

Kozzy

Semi-Pro
Tried a full bed of cheap poly (Isospeed Basline Spin - 16) strung pretty low (40lb) and that feels pretty good. I'll see how it lasts in terms of playability. So far, I like it.
 

whorng

Rookie
Moved from the 2018 VCP 310 to the 2019 green VCP 310.
Only a 2 hour ground stroke bash fest; however, I like the additional comfort.
Everything else felt like the usual.
Strange thing to say, but shanks don't "hurt" as much. Less buzz through the arm.
I tried Klip Natural Gut 15L mains @ 54 | Kirschbaum Evolution 17 cross @ 50.
Noticeably less spin than my usual shaped + round poly, but still good spin, more comfort and better playability.
Opponent said balls were heavier this time, probably down to natural gut power.
 

ttnyc456

New User
after trying or buying most of the newly popular as well as classic rackets under the sun, I settled down on the VCP HD as my top racket choice. Playing with 3g lead in the hoop with full poly (alu power) in the high 40s and the racket is perfect. Was looking to stringing a backup racket with full gut (high 50s) so the strings last longer with limited use. Anyone try a full gut or multi setup in this racket?
 

Syfo-Dias

Professional
Has anyone done a direct comparison between the new 330 and the last version? Are there any big differences or is it basically the same stick with a new paint job?
 

miami013

New User
Has anyone done a direct comparison between the new 330 and the last version? Are there any big differences or is it basically the same stick with a new paint job?
curious as well - also wondering if the new green 330 has any similarities to the prior 330 duel g frame?

it might've just been me, but i felt there was a difference in play/feel between the duel g and the navy blue vcore pro frame

hoping to hear that this new vcp is more similar the duel g
 

Doctah

New User
I have both 330 versions. They are very similar. The new emerald green has a slightly more muted feel which i actually prefer. Outside of that there is not much difference. I love them both and really bought the new one because i liked the new color design!
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I have both 330 versions. They are very similar. The new emerald green has a slightly more muted feel which i actually prefer. Outside of that there is not much difference. I love them both and really bought the new one because i liked the new color design!
I just got my hands on a VCore Tour G 330g in what looks like a pretty good condition. We'll see when it arrives :)
 
after trying or buying most of the newly popular as well as classic rackets under the sun, I settled down on the VCP HD as my top racket choice. Playing with 3g lead in the hoop with full poly (alu power) in the high 40s and the racket is perfect. Was looking to stringing a backup racket with full gut (high 50s) so the strings last longer with limited use. Anyone try a full gut or multi setup in this racket?
When I demoed the HD, it had a full multi string setup. I thought the racquet felt extremely plush and comfortable with that setup. However, I don't use full multi strings, as i can only get about 6 to 10 hours before strings break. The frame is comfortable enough where I'm able to use my typical poly / synthetic gut hybrid with no arm issues. As far as full gut, I have not tried, but I did do a natural gut mains / poly cross. This was comfortable and does add a bit of "pop" back into the frame from the natural gut power. If you're looking to add a bit more power to your current string setup, I think the natural gut / poly hybrid is worth trying. I'm interested in how this setup compares to my poly / synthetic gut hybrid when I start playing in much cooler temperatures (which is likely to be tonight indoors as temperatures have dropped about 30 degrees in the last 24 hrs where I'm at). Also, I string my own racquets, and I did notice that the frame did distort a bit after stringing it with the natural gut / poly. I typically like to string my poly crosses about 4 lbs less than the natural gut mains. The frame came out about 3 mm shorter after stringing, which I attribute to the low flex rating of the frame combined with the lower cross tension differential. Next time I use this string combination, I'll probably string the gut mains a bit lower but not use a lower cross string tension for the polys. This should probably eliminate the racquet deformation.

Edit: hit with the natural gut / poly setup in much colder conditions today. Setup felt comfortable and the bit of extra power was still present but much more manageable. I definitely liked this setup the best for these playing conditions.
 
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Syfo-Dias

Professional
I have both 330 versions. They are very similar. The new emerald green has a slightly more muted feel which i actually prefer. Outside of that there is not much difference. I love them both and really bought the new one because i liked the new color design!
Ok that's kind of what I figured. I noticed the beam design is exactly the same between the two versions. So, would you say swingweight and maneuverability are about the same?
 

glenWs

Rookie
Tons of smart tennis people on this thread so I need help.

Problem: Tennis elbow using Solinco Hyper G 17 at 50lbs in my new Blade 18x20.

Background: no tennis elbow demoing Yonex HD and Wilson Blade full poly for multiple singles matches.

Solution: restringing tomorrow

Question: what string setup?

Thanks!

I am sure you probably know this, but tennis elbow can come on not from just your equipment. The angle of your elbow and the way you make your stroke have a lot to do with it as well. Could be stressing your elbow that way, too. Have a pro evaluate your swing.
 

graycrait

Hall of Fame
65yr old "more linear" player here. Can anyone tell me how the Yonex VCORE PRO 97HD (18x20) compares to the Babolat Pure Storm LTD GT or Volkl Quantum Tour 10 93 or the Wilson ROK 93? I have the latter 3 rackets and have hit with the Yonex Vcore Pro 97 16x19 and the Dual G but in my hand the Pure Storm LTD GT beats all the others. But that 18x20 Yonex at that flex rating intrigues me.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
65yr old "more linear" player here. Can anyone tell me how the Yonex VCORE PRO 97HD (18x20) compares to the Babolat Pure Storm LTD GT or Volkl Quantum Tour 10 93 or the Wilson ROK 93? I have the latter 3 rackets and have hit with the Yonex Vcore Pro 97 16x19 and the Dual G but in my hand the Pure Storm LTD GT beats all the others. But that 18x20 Yonex at that flex rating intrigues me.
the weight is what sticks out the most to me about the Yonex VCORE PRO 97HD, i felt it was a tad bit heavy;
the flex does not stick out in my mind, so i think it was good
the thin frame also made the racquet fast (i posted my thoughts early on this thread), and how low powered it felt with the 18/20

im used to the y.v.310s old/new (Gs-pros), and this HD was notisably heavier to me, but the yonex.330s are a bit more..

the w.rok was very head light (12pts if i recall right), and very easy to swing, but i also was in my 30s when i hit with it, so the weight did not bother me back then,, not as much as it does these days
i think i recall the Babolat Pure Storm LTD GT but not much, so i cant make a good comperason
don't have much volkl knowledge

the y.HD is a interesting stick, must DEMO for a 1hander IMO
 
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