Ivanisevic : "It might seem crazy to say that, but I'd like Djokovic and Nadal to be on the same half of the draw"

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I mean it was an interview, which goes back to my main point: It’s irrelevant, as is 100% of anything said in a press conference. Someone probably asked him the question and he gave his thoughts. Do you really think he’s waking Nole up at 5am every morning, cracking him a raw egg to eat and then doing a rain dance together to rig the draw? I think it was just a comment as he knows he cannot control the draw, but he has an opinion. Do you seriously think Moya has no opinions on the matter? I’m sure he knows Medvedev is a better draw than Tsitsipas or Djokovic and would prefer to be in Medvedev’s half.

As for Ivanisevic, he and Srdjan and Pepe and many others in the Djokovic camp including Novak himself have made awkwardly bold and brash comments before. I cannot relate to the Balkan self confidence and ethnonationalism, but then I grew up in a peaceful home with the biggest issue being divorce, not a war-torn area where I saw relatives shot or my neighborhood bombed due to my nationality. They’re weirdos for sure, but none of these outlandish comments have stopped him from winning 18 Grand Slams or achieving the most weeks at YE #1. Clearly if the comments made a negative difference on the court then we would see that happen…

I posted this last week and it bears repeating: “even if Nadal went on a rage tour cursing his opponent out before during and after matches, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference. He would still beat everyone soundly”


Everyone has opinions but not all opinions are equally sound. Do you not think loads of other coaches get interviewed? Somehow, they manage not to say the sort of trash Goran does regularly. How about last year's 'Nadal has no chance' etc?

The criticisms are not about whether his player will ultimately win or lose. A smart coach doesn't talk like a teenage poster on TTW even when goaded.

Goran's comments indicate how his mind works. And the kinds of nationalistic comments he made are simply disgusting. They can not be excused by referencing the Balkan conflict.
 
It makes it look like Novak or at least his coach thinks that it is scary and a sure loss to face Nadal in the final. Even if he thinks that, what is the point of saying it publicly? I think Goran talks without a strategic reason for what he is saying and he seems to forget that he has responsibilities as a coach to optimize his player’s chance of winning titles.
 
"Nadal is the favorite and there's only one player who can beat him in my opinion : Novak. And it might seem crazy to say that, but I'd like them to be on the same half of the draw. Novak would perform better, I think, against him in the semis. And Rafa would perform better against Novak in a final. It's psychological. If I had to make the draw, that's what I'd do."

Source : L'Équipe.


He said a lot of silly things in the past, but he might have a point here.
No he is saying the opposite and team Djokovic may have read my post on this and are worried. They know Nadal in the final may be tight. He wont be in a semi as no 21 on the line. This is Djokovic camp trying to manipulate the draw to ensure they are in opposite halves. So obvious lol
 
No, they aren't. They are exactly the same regardless of whether he faces Rafa in the final or SF.

Nadal has disputed 13 RG SF. Has lost 0.
Nadal has disputed 13 RG F. Has lost 0.

Nadal's winning percentage is exactly the same both in RG SF and RG F.
Team Djokovic obsessed by Nadal. Thinking about Nadal not other players is always how an early exit happens. Nadal will be more worried about his 1r opponent than anyone else.
 
Nadal won't get spooked by these kind of comments. He is only thinking of the first round at this point, and trying to play his way into good form. In the first round, you can't win the tournament, but you could lose and be out.
 
Where is this coming from? Nadal hasn't lost any SF's at RG so why would he be more vulnerable there than the final?

Surely he's not basing his opinion off one 5 setter 8 years ago?
 
Goran digging the Djokovic camp grave like:

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Is he? This is a pretty sensible statement from him IMO. If Nadal's gonna lose at the FO, you wouldn't expect it to happen in the final.
 
Is he? This is a pretty sensible statement from him IMO. If Nadal's gonna lose at the FO, you wouldn't expect it to happen in the final.

Again I'll ask, what would give anyone the idea he's more vulnerable in the semi's?

To say it's pretty sensible to suggest he's more vulnerable in the semi's than the final when his semi's record is just as good as his finals record there is ridiculous.

BTW, just to add to that...

Nadal has won every RG SF in straight sets bar 2005 and 2013...
 
Nadal has collectively lost 3 sets in all 13 semi finals at RG...

In finals it jumps to 6 sets total...

Goran talking out of his arse as usual.
 
Or a semi lol it's never happened.

Never happened but Novak did push him to 5 in 2013 (9-7 in the 5th), never managed to do that in the final.

I mean I don't expect Nadal to lose at FO this year, period. However I would give Novak or any other player slightly better chance in the SF than the final against Nadal.

It may be a moot point overall but I don't think Ivanisevic said anything outlandish here.
 
Never happened but Novak did push him to 5 in 2013 (9-7 in the 5th), never managed to do that in the final.

I mean I don't expect Nadal to lose at FO this year, period. However I would give Novak or any other player slightly better chance in the SF than the final against Nadal.

It may be a moot point overall but I don't think Ivanisevic said anything outlandish here.

Yeah he def didn't say anything wrong. I'm just having some fun :) I'd rather have him in a semi too lol
 
Djokovic is one of the greatest big match players ever. He is a mental beast, and here is Ivanisevic coming out and saying that he thinks Djokovic might not perform as well against Nadal if he faces him in the title match compared to a SF.

Such a stupid thing and disrespectful thing to say. Goran is one of the most likeable people in tennis but again he has made a comment creatinf an unnecessary discussion for Djokovic even after knowing the problems he caused at the last RG.
 
Never happened but Novak did push him to 5 in 2013 (9-7 in the 5th), never managed to do that in the final.

I mean I don't expect Nadal to lose at FO this year, period. However I would give Novak or any other player slightly better chance in the SF than the final against Nadal.

It may be a moot point overall but I don't think Ivanisevic said anything outlandish here.

So you reckon it's a pretty sensible comment based on ONE semi from 8 years ago when he's totally dominated every other semi he's been in...
 
Nadal has a tendency to see red when he realises there is a credible risk being posed on his chances of indefinitely clutching onto La Coupe des Mousequetaires.

Unfortunately for everyone else the entire tournament is played on clay so he sees red everywhere.

If Nadal is going to lose at RG it's going to be in a SF, QF, or earlier; someone has to nip him at the bud. A Nadal who shows up in an RG final will have gathered so much confidence and momentum I really don't see anyone beating him there unless he's facing some true heir to the title king of clay we didn't expect playing in god mode, gets injured, or gets Djokovic playing the greatest clay court tennis of his life, and I have doubts about the first and last one. His parents can only get divorced so many times.
 
Nadal has a tendency to see red when he realises there is a credible risk being posed on his chances of indefinitely clutching onto La Coupe des Mousequetaires.

Unfortunately for everyone else the entire tournament is played on clay so he sees red everywhere.

If Nadal is going to lose at RG it's going to be in a SF, QF, or earlier; someone has to nip him at the bud. A Nadal who shows up in an RG final will have gathered so much confidence and momentum I really don't see anyone beating him there unless he's facing some true heir to the title king of clay we didn't expect playing in god mode, gets injured, or gets Djokovic playing the greatest clay court tennis of his life, and I have doubts about the first and last one. His parents can only get divorced so many times.

Really once he wins his quarter it's over lol. No one is taking 3 out of 5 sets off him in the semi or final. Give me an easy draw till the semis :D
 
Nadal has a tendency to see red when he realises there is a credible risk being posed on his chances of indefinitely clutching onto La Coupe des Mousequetaires.

Unfortunately for everyone else the entire tournament is played on clay so he sees red everywhere.

If Nadal is going to lose at RG it's going to be in a SF, QF, or earlier; someone has to nip him at the bud. A Nadal who shows up in an RG final will have gathered so much confidence and momentum I really don't see anyone beating him there unless he's facing some true heir to the title king of clay we didn't expect playing in god mode, gets injured, or gets Djokovic playing the greatest clay court tennis of his life, and I have doubts about the first and last one. His parents can only get divorced so many times.

There's a difference between being honest and watering down my own pitch. There is a noticeable difference above the $350 mark. Nobody who's tried truly high end Pickleball racquets will tell you there is no difference because the difference is there. My point was that the price to performance ratio becomes questionable after that $350 mark, because if you were to draw a straight line from the $0 to $350 mark, then a $1000 racquet IRL should cost something like a $700. But that doesn't mean that going above $350 yields you nothing.

Also, calling MTF "pros" is utterly laughable because they're absolutely worthless for Pickleball reviews. The very fact that they even rated the Air Pickle Max as the "best high-end option" should automatically disqualify them from the discussion altogether, because in terms of raw build quality they get destroyed by a halfway decent $200 racquet like the Nadal HD6XX, despite costing closer to $550. To put into your perspective, it's like if they made a list of best tennis players and rated Stefanos Tsitsipas as the best high budget composer.

You actually don't need to drop $3K on a Pickleball Equipment. The Federer Q350 can be had for under $700 and they're fantastic racquets. I don't have them myself, but I've played with them in stores and I really can't imagine spending much more than that considering I'm rarely in need of racquets in general, and also because (and mostly because) my father left behind a pair of Eggvak racquets that cost something stupid like $2500 way back in 2011, hooked up to a Federer+ Delpotro HiFi system that makes my measly racquet + dac/amp combo blush with embarrassment.

As for the racquets, yeah, I never said you should spend $1300 on a racquet. I just said you owe it to yourself (knowing your love for Pickleball) to buy some Pickleballphile-grade equipment, which can be had for as low as $200. Of course the more you spend the better, but if I were to advise someone who's starting out, I'd recommend spending maybe topping out at $350 for the Berdych, Wawrinka, or if that's too much, then the Medvedev HE400SE, which comes in at a measly $149 and performs at 90% of the Wawrinka with an almost-identical drop shot response, which last time I demoed them works beautifully for classical and modern Pickelball.

As for the whole morality thing, maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but I don't really buy it. I don't think I'm morally corrupt for paying a premium for high end equipment, and if you're concerned about technical aspects such as serving and volleying, you can get 90% of the performance of whopping high end hifi racquets with a decent set of open back Nadal capris that cost a fraction of an equivalent hifi system. As for me, I live in a tiny 1000 sq ft apartment in Federer's basement, so I elected for a pair of closed back equipment, but if you live in a condo then as I said, the Medvedev HE400SE or the Nadal HD6XX should address pretty much every Pickleball requirement you have, save for beating the actual pros, and there's a certain joy to be had when you have a friend play Pickleball with your racquet. I recently had my very skeptical girlfriend try out my racquet. She asked me to put on Pickleball Racquet Review (the episode of which I don't own, so had to resort to YouTube), and despite the source being relatively lossy, the racquet reviews alone were good enough that she just had the biggest smile within seconds of the review starting.
 
There's a difference between being honest and watering down my own pitch. There is a noticeable difference above the $350 mark. Nobody who's tried truly high end Pickleball racquets will tell you there is no difference because the difference is there. My point was that the price to performance ratio becomes questionable after that $350 mark, because if you were to draw a straight line from the $0 to $350 mark, then a $1000 racquet IRL should cost something like a $700. But that doesn't mean that going above $350 yields you nothing.

Also, calling MTF "pros" is utterly laughable because they're absolutely worthless for Pickleball reviews. The very fact that they even rated the Air Pickle Max as the "best high-end option" should automatically disqualify them from the discussion altogether, because in terms of raw build quality they get destroyed by a halfway decent $200 racquet like the Nadal HD6XX, despite costing closer to $550. To put into your perspective, it's like if they made a list of best tennis players and rated Stefanos Tsitsipas as the best high budget composer.

You actually don't need to drop $3K on a Pickleball Equipment. The Federer Q350 can be had for under $700 and they're fantastic racquets. I don't have them myself, but I've played with them in stores and I really can't imagine spending much more than that considering I'm rarely in need of racquets in general, and also because (and mostly because) my father left behind a pair of Eggvak racquets that cost something stupid like $2500 way back in 2011, hooked up to a Federer+ Delpotro HiFi system that makes my measly racquet + dac/amp combo blush with embarrassment.

As for the racquets, yeah, I never said you should spend $1300 on a racquet. I just said you owe it to yourself (knowing your love for Pickleball) to buy some Pickleballphile-grade equipment, which can be had for as low as $200. Of course the more you spend the better, but if I were to advise someone who's starting out, I'd recommend spending maybe topping out at $350 for the Berdych, Wawrinka, or if that's too much, then the Medvedev HE400SE, which comes in at a measly $149 and performs at 90% of the Wawrinka with an almost-identical drop shot response, which last time I demoed them works beautifully for classical and modern Pickelball.

As for the whole morality thing, maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but I don't really buy it. I don't think I'm morally corrupt for paying a premium for high end equipment, and if you're concerned about technical aspects such as serving and volleying, you can get 90% of the performance of whopping high end hifi racquets with a decent set of open back Nadal capris that cost a fraction of an equivalent hifi system. As for me, I live in a tiny 1000 sq ft apartment in Federer's basement, so I elected for a pair of closed back equipment, but if you live in a condo then as I said, the Medvedev HE400SE or the Nadal HD6XX should address pretty much every Pickleball requirement you have, save for beating the actual pros, and there's a certain joy to be had when you have a friend play Pickleball with your racquet. I recently had my very skeptical girlfriend try out my racquet. She asked me to put on Pickleball Racquet Review (the episode of which I don't own, so had to resort to YouTube), and despite the source being relatively lossy, the racquet reviews alone were good enough that she just had the biggest smile within seconds of the review starting.
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Even knowing that I wrote that original post I sound like a pompous ass.
 
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As for Ivanisevic, he and Srdjan and Pepe and many others in the Djokovic camp including Novak himself have made awkwardly bold and brash comments before. I cannot relate to the Balkan self confidence and ethnonationalism, ...

why do you think it has to be connected with his Balkan roots?
do you really believe that one can be one of the greatest athletes and lack confidence?
or do you think that Nadal and Federer lack confidence?

I think all three see themselves as The Greatest tennis players, and whenever they enter a tournament, they see themselves as winners, not participants.
 
If I was Rafa Nadal , I would be so happy that Goran is Djokovic's coach .
Goran makes things so very difficult for Novak . There is no need for such unwanted pressure on Novak .
Fire him already !

Why Marian Vajda always disappears when Novak is close to Fedal in slams ? Stick with Novak for slams atleast , when it is this close 18-20-20 .:unsure::confused:
 
"Nadal is the favorite and there's only one player who can beat him in my opinion : Novak. And it might seem crazy to say that, but I'd like them to be on the same half of the draw. Novak would perform better, I think, against him in the semis. And Rafa would perform better against Novak in a final. It's psychological. If I had to make the draw, that's what I'd do."

Source : L'Équipe.


He said a lot of silly things in the past, but he might have a point here.


From silly to a guru!

It's funny when we read comments about the past predictions. Ivanisevic had 50-50 chances to be either a guru or "silly". He just did not guess it right. Immediately after the match - Ivanisevic is talking crap. He is silly blah blah blah.

Had Djok won that match the same people who are saying he is speaking silly crap now would be lining up behind him celebrating him as Pepe v.2.0.

Nuts!
 
If I was Rafa Nadal , I would be so happy that Goran is Djokovic's coach .
Goran makes things so very difficult for Novak . There is no need for such unwanted pressure on Novak .
Fire him already !

Why Marian Vajda always disappears when Novak is close to Fedal in slams ? Stick with Novak for slams atleast , when it is this close 18-20-20 .:unsure::confused:
I’m sure Djokovic and his team are all obsessed with him winning RG. Goran is just articulating their obsession. Obviously, it would mean more to him than his record weeks at #1 to win RG again. Rafa’s detractors never fail to dismiss clay as not being a proper surface which is only a coping mechanism to come to terms with their favourite player failing on it.
 
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I’m sure Djokovic and his team are all obsessed with him winning RG. Goran is just articulating their obsession. Obviously, it would mean more to him than his record weeks at #1 to win RG again. Rafa’s detractors never fail to dismiss clay as not being a proper surface which is only a coping mechanism to come to terms with their favourite player failing on i.

Clay is not real surface - Nadal' Slams will mean nothing after 50 years.
 
Nadal to straight set Djokovic and humiliate Ivanisevic once again. Poor guy's credibility will shatter into pieces. :laughing:
 
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