Jack Draper the most credible 3 guy

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Not Fonseca not djoko not everyone else.
Draper's the best-suited to break through by beating one or both in a deep run.
Draper is going to win a Slam in 2026.
Draper's playing style is a nightmare matchup for both these guys. He's a lefty with a monster serve that he mixes up like a pro—slices, flats, you name it—to keep returners off balance.

That big lethal forehand Straight out of Nadal's playbook: heavy topspin, ridiculous pace, and consistency that wears down opponents.
At 6'4" and built like a tank, he's got the power to rip winners from anywhere, but he's evolved into an aggressive baseliner who doesn't just grind but he attacks.
his movement isn't elite (he's not carlos in that department), and injuries have been a thing, but with his new team (snagged iron-hip old trainer), he's bulked up and stayed durable enough to rack up wins until hes unfourtunate arm injury before Wimbledon, he played through it but he was badly hampered.
Against right-handers like Alcaraz and Sinner, that lefty spin messes with their rhythms, especially on faster surfaces where Draper's serve bombs shine.Now, the proof's in the pudding with head-to-heads. Against Alcaraz, yeah, Carlitos leads overall (something like 3-1 or 4-2 depending on the source), but Draper already owns a big win over him—straight sets at Queen's back in '24, and then he straight-up dismantled him en route to the Indian Wells final this year. That's on slow hard court, where Alcaraz is supposed to be untouchable! Draper saved his A-game for that run, beating Fritz and Shelton too, showing levels in tournaments.
Imagine that in a Slam best-of-five: Draper's got the endurance now, and if he gets Alcaraz on a day when the Spaniard's drop-shot happy, Jack's power and aggression could overwhelm him.With Sinner, it's even at 1-1, which is huge considering Jannik's been on fire.

Draper pushed him hard in that US Open semi last year (close sets until the end), and while Sinner got the W, Jack's learned from it and he was drained by the long matches he played before.
Draper's heavy lefty angles and serve variety could disrupt that robot rhythm—especially on grass or indoors, where Jack thrives. so if Draper's firing, he could outlast him in a marathon match.And let's talk form: 2025 was Draper's breakout for real. He went 30-9 before that arm tweak ended his season early, but before that? Top-5 ranking, Masters champ, Grand Slam semi-finalist (building on his USO run), and legit contender status.
He snuck into No. 4 seed at Wimbledon this year after a Queen's semi, avoiding the big guns early, i just hope hes fit and injury free next year and Draper going to shock the world.
Draper got the weapons, the wins, and the mentality to upset the apple cart. Alcaraz and Sinner are young kings, but every era needs a challenger, and Jack's the guy with the lefty edge to do it.
Draper also has a better ceiling than Shelton and the other youngs like mensik fonseca ect
 
Draper also has a better ceiling than Shelton and the other youngs like mensik fonseca ect

No he doesn’t. His movement is no better than theirs, and you say he’s got the mentality to do this—how? He gets tight and has breathing/anxiety/nausea problems on court, he has missed basically half the season with an injury….he definitely looks the part but you’re letting Attractiveness Bias cloud your judgement
 
"Draper pushed him hard in that US Open semi last year (close sets until the end), and while Sinner got the W, Jack's learned from it and he was drained by the long matches he played before."

Draper hadn't dropped a set on the way to the semis what?
 
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Not the first "X will break through in Y year" thread I've seen, and it won't be the last. Let's see if it ends up being in the 5% of them that turns out to be right.
 
No he doesn’t. His movement is no better than theirs, and you say he’s got the mentality to do this—how? He gets tight and has breathing/anxiety/nausea problems on court, he has missed basically half the season with an injury….he definitely looks the part but you’re letting Attractiveness Bias cloud your judgement

Not to mention, Draper will be 24 next year. I happen to think that as a 23-year-old Shelton still has a good opportunity to improve, but that opportunity gets much smaller with each passing year, and by 24 it is way below that Fonseca at 19 or Mensik at 20.

For what it's worth, I don't think of Draper as that attractive personally but I'm probably biased by his godawful fashion sense and ridiculous clothes that are four sizes too big.
 
Not to mention, Draper will be 24 next year. I happen to think that as a 23-year-old Shelton still has a good opportunity to improve, but that opportunity gets much smaller with each passing year, and by 24 it is way below that Fonseca at 19 or Mensik at 20.

For what it's worth, I don't think of Draper as that attractive personally but I'm probably biased by his godawful fashion sense and ridiculous clothes that are four sizes too big.

Draper attracts a specific kind of male fan, one who only semi-quietly disdains the performative “yaaas queen” vibe of modern sport and longs for a return to a game ruled by quiet angry men

Before Draper they liked Rune, before that it was Thiem, and they love Sinner as well.

Players who trigger their anger are Carlos, Kyrgios, Shelton, Tiafoe, and Osaka

Watch now, you won’t be able to unsee the pattern

Back to the actual game, yes I agree. People around here seem to think that 24 is just getting started.

Sure, maybe if you’re Fed or Novak. Otherwise 24 isn’t “young”, it’s peak. If you aren’t winning Slams by 24 it is not likely that you make that leap after 24
 
Not Fonseca not djoko not everyone else.
Draper's the best-suited to break through by beating one or both in a deep run.
Draper is going to win a Slam in 2026.
Draper's playing style is a nightmare matchup for both these guys. He's a lefty with a monster serve that he mixes up like a pro—slices, flats, you name it—to keep returners off balance.

That big lethal forehand Straight out of Nadal's playbook: heavy topspin, ridiculous pace, and consistency that wears down opponents.
At 6'4" and built like a tank, he's got the power to rip winners from anywhere, but he's evolved into an aggressive baseliner who doesn't just grind but he attacks.
his movement isn't elite (he's not carlos in that department), and injuries have been a thing, but with his new team (snagged iron-hip old trainer), he's bulked up and stayed durable enough to rack up wins until hes unfourtunate arm injury before Wimbledon, he played through it but he was badly hampered.
Against right-handers like Alcaraz and Sinner, that lefty spin messes with their rhythms, especially on faster surfaces where Draper's serve bombs shine.Now, the proof's in the pudding with head-to-heads. Against Alcaraz, yeah, Carlitos leads overall (something like 3-1 or 4-2 depending on the source), but Draper already owns a big win over him—straight sets at Queen's back in '24, and then he straight-up dismantled him en route to the Indian Wells final this year. That's on slow hard court, where Alcaraz is supposed to be untouchable! Draper saved his A-game for that run, beating Fritz and Shelton too, showing levels in tournaments.
Imagine that in a Slam best-of-five: Draper's got the endurance now, and if he gets Alcaraz on a day when the Spaniard's drop-shot happy, Jack's power and aggression could overwhelm him.With Sinner, it's even at 1-1, which is huge considering Jannik's been on fire.

Draper pushed him hard in that US Open semi last year (close sets until the end), and while Sinner got the W, Jack's learned from it and he was drained by the long matches he played before.
Draper's heavy lefty angles and serve variety could disrupt that robot rhythm—especially on grass or indoors, where Jack thrives. so if Draper's firing, he could outlast him in a marathon match.And let's talk form: 2025 was Draper's breakout for real. He went 30-9 before that arm tweak ended his season early, but before that? Top-5 ranking, Masters champ, Grand Slam semi-finalist (building on his USO run), and legit contender status.
He snuck into No. 4 seed at Wimbledon this year after a Queen's semi, avoiding the big guns early, i just hope hes fit and injury free next year and Draper going to shock the world.
Draper got the weapons, the wins, and the mentality to upset the apple cart. Alcaraz and Sinner are young kings, but every era needs a challenger, and Jack's the guy with the lefty edge to do it.
Draper also has a better ceiling than Shelton and the other youngs like mensik fonseca ect
Nope. He avoided big guns at Wimby but lost to Cilic in what I think was the second round.
He has no stamina, bad movement and lacks consistency.
 
I’ll start holding my breath.
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Sadly he just does not have a body that can sustain the rigors of the tour. He’s about to turn 24 and he’s only played one complete season. Every other year he’s had to shut things down for months at a time while he rested and healed. I think if he could find a way to stay healthy he has a great base to build from and turn himself into quite a player – if not a genuine third party to the current duopoly then at least a best-of-the-rest sort. But he’ll never get there with this stop-start career he’s had so far.
 
No he doesn’t. His movement is no better than theirs, and you say he’s got the mentality to do this—how? He gets tight and has breathing/anxiety/nausea problems on court, he has missed basically half the season with an injury….he definitely looks the part but you’re letting Attractiveness Bias cloud your judgement
Draper has a better game than Shelton better iq and more heavy forehand and hes also a better returner and better BH
 
"Draper pushed him hard in that US Open semi last year (close sets until the end), and while Sinner got the W, Jack's learned from it and he was drained by the long matches he played before."

Draper hadn't dropped a set on the way to the semis what?
It was hes first deep run and he was overwhelmed phisically, during the sinner vomited badly
 
Sadly he just does not have a body that can sustain the rigors of the tour. He’s about to turn 24 and he’s only played one complete season. Every other year he’s had to shut things down for months at a time while he rested and healed. I think if he could find a way to stay healthy he has a great base to build from and turn himself into quite a player – if not a genuine third party to the current duopoly then at least a best-of-the-rest sort. But he’ll never get there with this stop-start career he’s had so far.
This season was healty until that tweak injury in hes arm just days before Wimbledon
 
Draper has a better game than Shelton better iq and more heavy forehand and hes also a better returner and better BH

Not sure about the IQ part. Shelton is not just a basher, he has patterns he likes to work. His strategy is to attack righty FHs
 
No. Draper hasn’t proved himself. He got hot and won Indian wells.
Hype train went wild.
Lost 2R Wimbledon.
Lost 3R or 4R French.
Didn’t finish 4R AO.

He’s not consistent enough to be the #3 guy.

He can be in the mix and has things to work on still to take his game to the next level.
 
No. Draper hasn’t proved himself. He got hot and won Indian wells.
Hype train went wild.
Lost 2R Wimbledon.
Lost 3R or 4R French.
Didn’t finish 4R AO.

He’s not consistent enough to be the #3 guy.

He can be in the mix and has things to work on still to take his game to the next level.
He was injuried after queens
 
Yeah Gil gross did an analysis on that and while he didn’t exactly say it, was basically like, why play to Felix forehand when everyone on the couch knows FAA’s backhand on was the right play to keep him on defense.
He always plays only instincts and vibes
 
Everyone is injured. He still played wimby.
Outside of IW , he’s still inconsistent even before queens.
If he fails to defend his IW title he’s dropping quickly.
He will return swinging hard in Australia, hes a top 5 player whitout a doubt and hes only one having that heavy topspin lefty that can harm u from everywhere, shelton FH is higly overrated doesent have heavyness and speed like draper
 
Considering ALL the options or lack there of, he’s got semi-decent shot at being the 3rd ranked player in the world if he can stay on the court.
Will he take the Novak role in the early stages of the big3? No chance.
 
Not Fonseca not djoko not everyone else.
Draper's the best-suited to break through by beating one or both in a deep run.
Draper is going to win a Slam in 2026.
Draper's playing style is a nightmare matchup for both these guys. He's a lefty with a monster serve that he mixes up like a pro—slices, flats, you name it—to keep returners off balance.

That big lethal forehand Straight out of Nadal's playbook: heavy topspin, ridiculous pace, and consistency that wears down opponents.
At 6'4" and built like a tank, he's got the power to rip winners from anywhere, but he's evolved into an aggressive baseliner who doesn't just grind but he attacks.
his movement isn't elite (he's not carlos in that department), and injuries have been a thing, but with his new team (snagged iron-hip old trainer), he's bulked up and stayed durable enough to rack up wins until hes unfourtunate arm injury before Wimbledon, he played through it but he was badly hampered.
Against right-handers like Alcaraz and Sinner, that lefty spin messes with their rhythms, especially on faster surfaces where Draper's serve bombs shine.Now, the proof's in the pudding with head-to-heads. Against Alcaraz, yeah, Carlitos leads overall (something like 3-1 or 4-2 depending on the source), but Draper already owns a big win over him—straight sets at Queen's back in '24, and then he straight-up dismantled him en route to the Indian Wells final this year. That's on slow hard court, where Alcaraz is supposed to be untouchable! Draper saved his A-game for that run, beating Fritz and Shelton too, showing levels in tournaments.
Imagine that in a Slam best-of-five: Draper's got the endurance now, and if he gets Alcaraz on a day when the Spaniard's drop-shot happy, Jack's power and aggression could overwhelm him.With Sinner, it's even at 1-1, which is huge considering Jannik's been on fire.

Draper pushed him hard in that US Open semi last year (close sets until the end), and while Sinner got the W, Jack's learned from it and he was drained by the long matches he played before.
Draper's heavy lefty angles and serve variety could disrupt that robot rhythm—especially on grass or indoors, where Jack thrives. so if Draper's firing, he could outlast him in a marathon match.And let's talk form: 2025 was Draper's breakout for real. He went 30-9 before that arm tweak ended his season early, but before that? Top-5 ranking, Masters champ, Grand Slam semi-finalist (building on his USO run), and legit contender status.
He snuck into No. 4 seed at Wimbledon this year after a Queen's semi, avoiding the big guns early, i just hope hes fit and injury free next year and Draper going to shock the world.
Draper got the weapons, the wins, and the mentality to upset the apple cart. Alcaraz and Sinner are young kings, but every era needs a challenger, and Jack's the guy with the lefty edge to do it.
Draper also has a better ceiling than Shelton and the other youngs like mensik fonseca ect

Fraud, fraud, fraud.

Checks out.
 
Considering ALL the options or lack there of, he’s got semi-decent shot at being the 3rd ranked player in the world if he can stay on the court.
Will he take the Novak role in the early stages of the big3? No chance.
Draper will take a big leap in 2026, has the perfect weapons and game to shock the satanic duo
 
He still has more chances than overrated Rune
Rune is overrated but still a very good player, regardless in an individual sport like tennis it is difficult for a player to be truly overrated in the same way as someone might be in football as most people can assess a player's limitations. For example Ruud has been often overrated by the media in his career because he has been in slam finals but most fans view him more realistically. Also Rune's chances of winning a slam have been affected by his Achilles' injury, so it is kinda poor form to call him overrated.
 
Rune is overrated but still a very good player, regardless in an individual sport like tennis it is difficult for a player to be truly overrated in the same way as someone might be in football as most people can assess a player's limitations. For example Ruud has been often overrated by the media in his career because he has been in slam finals but most fans view him more realistically. Also Rune's chances of winning a slam have been affected by his Achilles' injury, so it is kinda poor form to call him overrated.
Oh yes before injuries he was not busy losing in first or second round of a slam lol
 
that’s not true ,he lost in first round of US open , look I hope he recovers from injury asap but he was never gonna win a slam never
He is very talented and was on a great path at the beginning of his career, it is not impossible that someone with his talent might become a slam winner even though he stagnated. And he lost in the second round of the USO, not in the first
 
He is very talented and was on a great path at the beginning of his career, it is not impossible that someone with his talent might become a slam winner even though he stagnated. And he lost in the second round of the USO, not in the first
All talented players under 22 don’t impress him.
All talented players who don’t make slam finals under 22 won’t do anything in their career.

But only one guy can develop into a late bloomer :rolleyes:

And due to their lack of understanding, I will say yes I’m trolling and no not every player under 22 will bloom like Jannik.
 
All talented players under 22 don’t impress him.
All talented players who don’t make slam finals under 22 won’t do anything in their career.

But only one guy can develop into a late bloomer :rolleyes:

And due to their lack of understanding, I will say yes I’m trolling and no not every player under 22 will bloom like Jannik.
Yes a player who constantly loses in first and second round should be hyped up as a future slam champion lol
 
i don’t know how you took that from what he said lol.

Okay tell me what’s wrong if I don’t think anyone under 22 is good enough to challenge Sinnerraz and win a slam against them?? this dude just hype any youngster and think he has the potential while in reality they keep failing one after another , it just can’t be coincidence, maybe they’re not just good?
 
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