Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by rainingaces, Apr 29, 2013.
Just a prediction. I will ttt this when I'm right. I really like his all court game and energy.
Your reasons are just silly.
He may well get to be American #1 but unfortunately that doesn't say a great deal these days, does it? At the moment, the position is swinging back and forth between just 2 players, Isner and Querrey and only Querrey is currently inside the top 20, just! These 2 players have a combined total of just 13 titles, only 1 of which is as high as an ATP500 (Querrey).
The last American #1 to be a truly world-class player was Andy Roddick. He was the last one to date who gave the position a world-class dimension. We daren't even mention the glorious eras of Connors, McEnroe, Sampras, Agassi and Courier. They were the players who made being American #1 virtually synonymous with being World #1!
Sock may well get to be American #1 and maybe sooner than we think. But what chance is there of him ever giving the position any real meaning as those greats of old once did?
He has the most natural talent of the younger bunch him and Dimitrov. I was the first to make a thread about Raonic and Janowicz they're doing ok.
We all know American tennis is in the toilet but it won't always be that way, getting to number 1 is a massive achievement.
I think he can win grand slams in the future if he puts in 100% effort into the physical aspect of the game, like when Murray burst on the scene. You seem sceptical about how good he could be what do you think he can do?
I wasn't trying to put him down or anything. I just think getting to be American #1 is no great biggie these days, unlike in the past. If he wants to make a real mark on the world of tennis, he will need to aim much higher than that. For what it's worth, I do believe he has the game to potentially make it quite big but it's translating that potential into reality that's going to be the difficult part. At the same age, Murray and others were willing to put in the work to maximise their talents. Will Sock do the same? I hope so.
The only players that I know that may be a great in the future (besides John Isner) is Sam Querrey and Mardy Fish. The rest of these guys in the tour are going to be phased out.
Except Isner isn't that good.
Do you think it's because he's so darn tall?!
That might have something to do with it. It's mostly do to his predictable, one dimensional game. For us amateurs he's obviously on a different level. But for top level professionals, if you can figure out how to return his serve, you can figure out how to beat him.
Sock in play at Challenger.
Not future usa#1.
Yeah, that's his greatest weapon (and possibly only).
Fish? A great in the future? He's already 31 and limiting his playing due to heart issues. So, um, no.
Isner is no spring chicken either ( 28 ). He's had a decent career but nothing near great. He's going to have to have a serious resurgence to have any change of being a great.
Querrey is still young enough to make some noise, but he's been on the tour a while and has not shown much indication that he has it in him to be a great.
Not a good time for american mens' tennis.
I meant in the future at challengers events.
I don't think Isner's game is going to change anytime soon.
Didn't Querrey beat Andy Roddick at a challenger's event for the 2012 US Open? or was that 2011?
steve johnson is a solid player. his backhand is not the best but has a good chance to crack the top 20 if his game continues to develop
Steve J got straight setted and breadsticked in the 2nd set today by Christian Harrison. That kid is rocketing up the rankings and is more likely to be future usa #1 than Sock.
really? nothing about CH's game has ever jumped out at me. better mover than ryan I assume, what else?
Exactly. All 3 of the most recent US #1 players, Fish, Isner and Querrey are getting old, especially the first 2, and at least 2 of them have or have had serious health or fitness issues (Fish and Querrey). Increasingly all 3 seem to be more the past of US tennis rather than its future.
The rising generation of youngsters, including Sock and Harrison, indicate some potential but have yet to fulfil any of it. No doubt one of them or some other up-and-coming young player will eventually take over the #1 spot. But we don't yet know if any of them can again make it a world class position in the way that it hasn't been since the heyday of Roddick.
Man, you know American tennis is in bad shape when we're longing for the days of Roddick...
Truthfully, don't really know specifics on the game, just been seeing lots of wins and rising ranking.
The guy won a Slam, appeared in 4 other Slam finals, won 5 Masters tournaments and 30-odd other titles, helped win the Davis Cup for the US ( the last time they did so) and was World #1 as well as being US #1.
That's light-years ahead of what any of his successors as US #1 have so far managed to achieve!
If I recall correctly, Christian was regarded in the past as being the more talented of the two brothers (though technically the same was said for Murray's brother I believe), so maybe its just the talent finally coming to fruition.
Yes, but I'm not sure if that is a good thing.
I highly doubt it.
christian harrison will be
Becuase of the stupid poll options i am refusing to vote
Jack's a great player with a lot of potential. I'm a fan, biases now disclosed.
But, obviously it's been a frustrating season for him (and his fans) most particularly because of his knack for winning first sets and then fading.
Unfortunately, I have not seen enough of these actual matches to give any sort of intelligent opinion as tto why that happems. Just not enough film.
It could be fitness, it could be mental, not making the adjustments necessary at the pro level, or not responding to their adjustments, and he has had some injuries.
But he has shown he can beat just about anyone in the world if Tennis was a one set sport. But it's not.
I didn't vote because there needs to be a "too soon to tell" category. Sock has potential but he has to improve and mature. Potentially, he could be a top 10 player or even grand slam winner on fast surfaces but he has to improve his backhand and develop confidence. Those are big "ifs". Good luck to him though and I hope he does well.
Harrison also has potential to be an excellent player too but again, he is young and needs to mature and gain confidence.
At this time, neither Harrison or Sock seem to have the "touched by the divine" type of talent that McEnroe, Agassi, Sampras and Connors possessed. They both seem more like Roddick and Courier types that are going to have to work and fight for wins.
They don't seem anything at all like them at this point. At the same age, or only a few months older, Courier and Roddick were both winning Slams and Masters titles and making being #1 US player synonymous with being World #1!
The likes of Sock and Harrison currently still have mountains to climb before they can get within reaching distance of the likes of Courier and Roddick.
Impressive straight set win today 6-2 6-2 7-5, that will help him get his ranking up from 118.
He is the best American on clay, more consistant then Querrey or Isner.
Jack Sock no longer being coached by Nystrom, now full time with USTA Player Development, mostly with Craig Boynton.
End of his career?
Couldn't agree more. Especially Harrison. The guy has top 50 talent at best, and he isn't even close to that ranking. To put him in the same catagory as Roddick and Courier is wishful thinking. There is no American tennis player on the horizon who is going to hang around the top 10 any time soon. We are having trouble staying in the top 20 at the moment.
who cares if he becomes number 1 in the country where Isner, Querrey, Donald Young and Ryan Harrison are top 5
the #1 american player will be unseeded at a grand slam tournament in the next 3 years.
Both have been on tour for a long time, haven't done anything spectacular. John Isner probably has the biggest potential out of all the Americans. The future for American tennis looks bleak for at least 3-4 more years. Hopefully there are some incredible talents lurking around America as we speak.
Yeah his name is Jack Sock. He has way more potential then Isner I can't believe you said that, even as a Isner fan thats so obvious. No one that tall is going to win a slam, but Socks the right hight, has a good attitude to put in the hard work and he is good on all surfaces.
Sock is great on clay unlike the rest on the American prospects, thats a good indicator of his natural talent as he wasn't brought up on clay.
Sock is the future of US tennis
Jiri Vesely and Jack Sock will end in the top 100 at the end of 2013.
I told you all, I looked into my crystal ball and he will be top 10 by next year.
Let me file this prediction in my BS Folder. Along with the guarantee that Tomic would be #1 --people made the same claims when Tomic was on a roll too.
Your butt hurt an American beat an overrated forum legend and Dolgo only plays one great set a match, move on.
This can be taken to mean American #1. As in the highest ranked player in America. Not in the world.
If that is what the OP means, then I could see it happening. I don't see Sock getting to world #1 however.
No. I have no love for Dimitrov outside his service motion and gf.
Dolgo lost to a quality player in Almagro.
Haven't seen too much of him, was good today though. And getting to be American number one doesn't seem to be that great challenge really. The fact that he's 22 and ranking mid-30s probably suggests he'll get there pretty soon.
If Dimitrov was american, he would be american #1.
And if he was Finnish, we probably wouldn't be hyping him.
sock has awful footwork for an elite player. he will be a top ten but not a every year.
He's gonna need a backhand at some point, but i do like the kid.
His backhand and his movement are things that in theory can be improved with work. I think his backhand is getting better at returning and he hits the occasional nice bh down the line
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