Jannik Sinner has the potential to be a BETTER player than Novak Djokovic

GrassMasters

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There I said it. I watched Djokovic since the beginning and I’ve been watching Sinner for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Italian has a higher ceiling than the Serb. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Sinner is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Djokovic. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 25 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Sinner to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even John McEnroe himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he had the GOAT season.

I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Djokovic had. Sinner’s generation is way more talented than Djokovic’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Djokovic’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Zverev, Tsitsipas and Ruud are really nothing compared to Alcaraz, Draper, Fonseca, and Fils. Besides, Jannik seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Djokovic. Anyways, that’s not the point.

The point is I believe The Italian Gladiator has what it takes to take Djokovic’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His nerve and serve still leave a lot to be desired and not at Djok’s level yet but he’ll get there. Djokovic kept improving even in his 30s so Jannik has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.

One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Djokovic in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more personable in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!

#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.
 
Why can't Sinner beat Carlos on hardcourt?
Wouldn't that be necessary? :-D
Carlos leads 5-2 on hardcourt H2H.
And Carlos isn't even using the right tactic half the time...
Carlos likes to hit flat, which Sinner loves, until Carlos goes to planB (variety).
The way its going, Sinner can't win a big point vs. Carlos on any surface...
And he's lucky Djokovic took Carlos out at the AO!
 
Il believe this once Sinner gets 25 slams and 450 weeks at no.1, 9 YE#1 and 8 wtf titles, 45 Masters 1000 titles.
 
Rosstour said:
I really can’t see it
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Not while big match Baelos is breathing lol

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Compared to Djokovic's prime he has a slight edge in terms of firepower and his shot tolerance is honestly absurdly good for someone hitting that hard off both wings. However, his movement, defence and general ability to adapt are markedly inferior.

As ridiculous as I may sound though I think he actually has the potential to become as dominant as Djokovic because he can basically ignore the other aspects of the game with his oppressive ground game. He just needs to be slightly better defensively and sort out his mental toughness against big match players like Alcaraz and be ready to elevate his intensity and aggression at key moments. It might seem like a tough ask but it's really nothing compared to the improvements Djoko underwent to attain his 2.0 form.

And in the extremely unlikely circumstance that he or Alcaraz surpasses Djokovic in terms of achievement, he would always have the better claim as he has a better record against Djokovic than Alcaraz does, something Alcaraz detractors will always bring up.
 
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GrassMasters said:
There I said it. I watched Djokovic since the beginning and I’ve been watching Sinner for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Italian has a higher ceiling than the Serb. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Sinner is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Djokovic. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 25 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Sinner to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even John McEnroe himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he had the GOAT season.

I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Djokovic had. Sinner’s generation is way more talented than Djokovic’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Djokovic’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Zverev, Tsitsipas and Ruud are really nothing compared to Alcaraz, Draper, Fonseca, and Fils. Besides, Jannik seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Djokovic. Anyways, that’s not the point.

The point is I believe The Italian Gladiator has what it takes to take Djokovic’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His nerve and serve still leave a lot to be desired and not at Djok’s level yet but he’ll get there. Djokovic kept improving even in his 30s so Jannik has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.

One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Djokovic in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more personable in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!

#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.
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He couldn't possibly become more popular than Djokovic could he?
 
Rosstour said:
I really can’t see it
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It's a copy pasta from another thread:

Holmes

Thread 'Carlos Alcaraz has the potential to be a BETTER player than Roger Federer'

There. I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT...
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Holmes said:
There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT.

I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Alcaraz’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medvedev, Sinner, Hurkacz, and Auger-Aliassime. Besides, Carlos seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.

The point is I believe The Spanish Achilles has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and serve still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Carlos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.

One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more personable in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!

#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.
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Clay lover said:
Compared to Djokovic's prime he has a slight edge in terms of firepower and his shot tolerance is honestly absurdly good for someone hitting that hard off both wings. However, his movement, defence and general ability to adapt are markedly inferior.

As ridiculous as I may sound though I think he actually has the potential to become as dominant as Djokovic because he can basically ignore the other aspects of the game with his oppressive ground game. He just needs to be slightly better defensively and sort out his mental toughness against big match players like Alcaraz and be ready to elevate his intensity and aggression at key moments. It might seem like a tough ask but it's really nothing compared to the improvements Djoko underwent to attain his 2.0 form.

And in the extremely unlikely circumstance that he or Alcaraz surpasses Djokovic in terms of achievement, he would always have the better claim as he has a better record against Djokovic than Alcaraz does, something Alcaraz detractors will always bring up.
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As for the latter part of your post, I'll take the player that actually beat a dominant Djokovic in Wimbledon over any Sinner win vs Nole. Alcaraz's win in 23 WB is much more significant considering the roll Novak was on.
 
Hawaiian grip said:
As for the latter part of your post, I'll take the player that actually beat a dominant Djokovic in Wimbledon over any Sinner win vs Nole. Alcaraz's win in 23 WB is much more significant considering the roll Novak was on.
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Fair. I guess regarding majors success against Djoko u can call them about even or slightly in favour of Alcaraz
 
zagor said:
It's a copy pasta from another thread:

Holmes

Thread 'Carlos Alcaraz has the potential to be a BETTER player than Roger Federer'

There. I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT...
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i think this is the original: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...be-a-better-player-than-roger-federer.690322/
 
Clay lover said:
Fair. I guess regarding majors success against Djoko u can call them about even or slightly in favour of Alcaraz
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Fair, too. I just see there is a lot of recency bias around the tennis world about this —I do think that Sinner is a worse matchup for current Novak than Alcaraz is, and Alcaraz has had a couple of losses to Novak this last year. But fact remains Djokovic entered Wimbledon in 2023 having won the last 4 majors he had taken part in, 6 of the last 8, and 4 in a row at Wimbledon. He also won the USO after that! And Carlos managed to beat him on a court he hadn't lost a match on since 2015, in a final no less. He's done it twice in a row now.
 
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xFedal said:
Il believe this once Sinner gets 25 slams and 450 weeks at no.1, 9 YE#1 and 8 wtf titles, 45 Masters 1000 titles.
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Only the 8WTF have a realistic shot to be reached with the home court advantage sinner enjoys in Milan and then in Turin.
Sinner will never be djokovic in 5 sets record and matches that last more than 3.30 hours. He will never achieve djokovic level on grass and Clay. Only on HC like Roger and Novak he can dismantle and eat for breakfast weak opponents. He is a HC specialist so far. As becker recently suggested it migh take 1 year to fully digest his tragic loss of RG25. How much time did it took for Tsitsipas in RG21 and afor Medvedev in AO22 to be fully swallowed?
 
I am italian and I like very much Sinner, I think that Alcaraz is technically and physically superior at the moment. However, I think Jannik has the potential to:
1) develop a Federer/Sampras alike serve
2) increase the spin on forehand and backhand maintaining the same ball speed
3) improve the slice backhand
4) work on physical flexibility to avoid a premature aging

This way he can remain on top for very long: not sure if as long as Djokovic or if he will be better than him.
 
Hawaiian grip said:
Carlos is nothing like Rafa. If anything, he resembles Roger more.
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In game style no he is not rafa. But in career and season trajectory he is exactly like rafa. His athleticism allow him deep runs on clay during the first part of the season before he burns out in the second part after wimbledon exactly like rafa. Clay is to Rafa what Grass is to Carlos and grass is to Rafa what clay is to carlos. HC is both their worst surface and they are atrocious in indoor HC.
He is like Rafa for first slam win at 19 and 5 slams at 22yo 1 months and 3 days. He is to Sinner what nadal was to Federer. Dominating him on clay and then spreading his domination on the 2 others surfaces with the exception on Indoor HC. Sinner will dominate in YEC Carlos like Roger was dominating Rafa in YEC and basel indoors. He is a big match player like Rafa and may have a similar number of injuries like Rafa.
 
He’s already 23-24 years old and can’t even win a title off hards barely (I think he won a grass title?) . If he isn’t better now, he won’t be better later. Just older and more potential to physically break down and begin suffering upsets

Djokovic can beat alcaraz in his elderly years. Sinner can’t even beat Carlos now. No chance he has thre potential to be better than the big 3 at this point. That ship his sailed for sinner. Too late.

He will have a great career on hards and probably break a few records at certain places but it’s too late for him to achieve these other things. Sinner has blown too many chances off hards at this point. He’s been around 4-5 years at this point making deep runs . He’s no spring chicken. The mileage has already begun to rack up

If sinner would have done something off hards up this point, oh yea I would agree he has a legit shot. But too late now and too many blown chances. You don’t get better at tennis after 24-25 years old. You just get worse. You would have to get real lucky with crappy eras of players coming up after you to keep winning titles. Eventually here in a few years a new era will come up to push sinner and alcaraz out of the way


For the same reason sinner can’t be better is for the reason Carlos won’t be better either . Sinner can’t win off hards and alcaraz can’t win on them LOL. Good luck surpassing a big 3 being such a handicap on a surface
 
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SonnyT said:
In temperament and playing style, Carlos resembles Djokovic more. He doesn't have to come to the net, but elects and chooses to do so! Whereas Federer had to come to the net!
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Nah he really doesn't. The forehand has way more shape than Djokovic's and he is also much more aggressive with it whereas Djokovic just smothers you with consistent depth coupled with good placement rather than going for outright winners. He is even more dropshot-happy than Djokovic and hits it better, and has better hands at the net. Serve is more erratic and placed worse and backhand doesn't compare - he can rally with it but not to the proficiency of Djokovic - he's forced to go for it more mid-rally because he knows he can't rally with it all day. Against Sinner he was very eager to change directions with it, whereas Djokovic, at least the prime one rallies much better with it but also takes fewer risks.

In terms of temperament he likes to involve the crowd like Djokovic does, but he's nowhere near as outwardly angry at the crowd or himself as Djokovic does sometimes - he hits errors and laughs it off extremely well.

You say he "chooses" to go to the net and would have a similar style if he didn't - but isn't this choice exactly what makes his style? If he chooses to go to the net, that already means he has a different style.
 
Not seeing it, he's just not quite as athletic as novak or any of the big 3 are/were. But his ball striking is incredible, to me he's like agassi with a bigger serve. Ultimately I think he'll end up accomplishing more than agassi but won't make it to djokovics level.
 
Fonseca has the potential to win more slams than the Big 3 combined (66). But I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Fonseca won’t ever come close to reaching his full potential.

Monfils had the potential to win 40 slam titles if he self-actualized. But unfortunately, he didn’t reach his full potential either. Legend has it that he vaped too much dandelion oil in his youth.
 
CoolCoolCool said:
It absolutely will, probably sooner than expected.
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Sincaraz needs to win 2 slams minimum every year for the next 10 years.

It’s doable IF Fonseca/any other young player is a bust. But if they’ve got any competition they won’t be making 20. Plus, injuries are a thing.
 
SonnyT said:
In temperament and playing style, Carlos resembles Djokovic more. He doesn't have to come to the net, but elects and chooses to do so! Whereas Federer had to come to the net!
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LOL.. if there is anyone close to Djokovic, it is FAA, not Sinner or Carlos. They both are uber aggresssive
 
yash_chanda72 said:
Bookmarked it! Will see in next 10 years, where does he stands!
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Fabresque said:
Sincaraz needs to win 2 slams minimum every year for the next 10 years.

It’s doable IF Fonseca/any other young player is a bust. But if they’ve got any competition they won’t be making 20. Plus, injuries are a thing.
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I only said Djoker's slam record will be broken eventually, I never said Sinner or Raz will be the one to do it.
 
It’s what should always happen, if it doesn’t that’s when the sport will die. Each generation must defeat the records of the last. That’s the spirit of competition. Otherwise there’s no point.

I hope both Alcaraz and Sinner can do it.
 
jackson vile said:
It’s what should always happen, if it doesn’t that’s when the sport will die. Each generation must defeat the records of the last. That’s the spirit of competition. Otherwise there’s no point.

I hope both Alcaraz and Sinner can do it.
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Imagine Carlos Sinner winning more than Novak .
Lets say Carlos 25 slams Sinner 26 slams or reverse it Sinner 25 slams and carlos 26 slams .
New honour list
1 Sinner/ alcaraz
2 Sinner / alcaraz
3 Novak.
Fedal fan will be very happy with this situation totally forgetting that both fedrer and nadal will lose their place in podium.
Novak will still remain there because no other will reach 24 slam .
 
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