Jannik Sinner, now Wada plays a new card

[Frenchy-Player]

The Wada is not letting up on the Jannik Sinner issue. From Montreal, headquarters of the agency, it lets it know that it considers "the case still open and the investigation ongoing" on the basis of a subsection of Article 13.2 of the Anti-Doping Code (13.2.3.5, which is reserved only for the international anti-doping agency and not, for example, Nado Italia) that allows it to start counting down the 21-day appeal deadline from the moment it has received additional documentation on the case specifically requested from Itia, the independent agency that adjudicates doping cases in tennis: è what we read in Corriere della Sera.


Wada therefore confirms that it was not satisfied with the nearly 50 detailed pages of the ruling and that it asked for specific insights, but will not disclose on what date it received (or if it received) the requested documentation. Therefore, it is not possible to know for sure when the new deadline to appeal will expire.

Contacted in the afternoon by the via Solferino newspaper, James Fitzgerald, Wada spokesman, confirmed that "Wada is still reviewing the documentation on the Sinner case received from Itia to decide whether to appeal. The time limit è of 21 days from the receipt of the documentation, which from us è arrived last week". Whether the case è definitively closed will still take days

Jannik Sinner, now Wada plays a new card - Sportal.eu

She was not satisfied with the nearly 50 detailed pages of the judgment.

sportal.eu

 

[Frenchy-Player]

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[Fabresque]

WADA will not appeal Jannik Sinner’s tribunal finding - Tennis Tonic - News, Predictions, H2H, Live Scores, stats

WADA has confirmed that it will not appeal the tribunal decision that cleared tennis player Jannik Sinner of any fault or negligence. The decision, which came after Sinner tested positive for a banned substance, allowed him to focus on his career without fear of suspension.

tennistonic.com

So then what’s this? Who is telling the truth? Is the case open or closed?

 

[Biotic]

I think the case is closed. Nike will lobby Sinner's way out of this, if they have not already. Any other outcome would be bad for business. We're way past the point where this was about Sinner.

 

[nolefam_2024]

WADA will not appeal. Thank lord.

The case is closed completely.

 

[Youngheart]

The way that an unnamed ex-President can weasel his sordid self out of court trouble,
why not let the trouble slide away from an apparently honest young Sinner? Or as we might say...
"Make The World Fair Again!!"

 

[JMR]

The article on Tennis Tonic ("WADA will not appeal Jannik Sinner's tribunal finding") appears to be erroneous. It contains no references to sources, no documentation, and no quotations. It has not been confirmed by any reliable sports news outlet. There is no indication anywhere that WADA has announced a final decision on this topic. My guess is that the Tennis Tonic conclusion is based on nothing more than the fact that the original 21-day appeal period had elapsed, but that did not take into account the fact the WADA extended the period by requesting additional information in the case. In any event, the language used in the article -- "The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has confirmed that it will not appeal ..." -- is actively misleading. Drawing an inference is one thing; claiming it has been "confirmed" is something else. This is bad journalism.

On the other hand, the mere fact that WADA has not yet announced its formal decision does not imply that it will appeal. That's still up in the air. Moreover, there are at least three different ways in which the agency could implement a decision not to appeal:

1. Just allow the extended appeal deadline to pass. Say nothing. Let the public figure it out. This would be irresponsible, in my opinion, but it's possible.
2. Issue a terse press release simply stating the outcome, e.g., "WADA has determined that it will not appeal the decision of the Independent Tribunal in the ITIA investigation of Jannik Sinner." Don't explain it. This would undoubtedly leave many people demanding more, but it might not be to WADA's advantage to say more (see below).
3. Announce the decision and explain it, at least at a high level. E.g., WADA might state that it carefully reviewed the Independent Tribunal's decision, as well as the supplemental materials from the record, and found no unsupported findings of fact nor any clearly incorrect application of the TADP rules. This approach would entail a degree of risk, because the attempt to answer some questions might raise others. No matter what it said, WADA likely would face criticism from some quarters ("What about this? What about that??"), and the agency might not wish to get more deeply involved in a matter that, until this point, has been largely left to the ITIA.

 

[jackson vile]

Crazy

 

[NeutralFan]

Meh just rumours, Sinner is the biggest superstar in tennis now and nothing will happen to him.

 

[Bartelby]

WADA will destroy every sport in the world if allowed to do so. The doping regime is far too onerous and part of a fanatical "war on drug" approach that is intellectually discredited.

 

[Galvermegs]

WADA will destroy every sport in the world if allowed to do so. The doping regime is far too onerous and part of a fanatical "war on drug" approach that is intellectually discredited.

Alcohol is right up there

do they penalise hungover players?

 

[vokazu]

WADA denies Italian media: 'Sinner case' not closed yet

This morning news came to us from Italian media that could put an end to the last barrier for Jannik Sinner in his doping case. It was the Corriere della Sera ...

www.puntodebreak.com

WADA denies Italian media: 'Sinner case' not closed yet​

In a statement, WADA states that their "review of the case is still ongoing" and that they have still not made any decision regarding it. In other words, Sinner will have to wait a few more weeks to definitively know if WADA will fully engage in the decision about his case. Will they do it? We will find out, still, in a few days.

 

[thrust]

WADA will destroy every sport in the world if allowed to do so. The doping regime is far too onerous and part of a fanatical "war on drug" approach that is intellectually discredited.

I am inclined to agree. What doe WADA have to do with tennis?

 

[Fabresque]

I think the case is closed. Nike will lobby Sinner's way out of this, if they have not already. Any other outcome would be bad for business. We're way past the point where this was about Sinner.

 

[vokazu]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1842209776953856426

 

[Sudacafan]

WADA will not appeal Jannik Sinner’s tribunal finding - Tennis Tonic - News, Predictions, H2H, Live Scores, stats

WADA has confirmed that it will not appeal the tribunal decision that cleared tennis player Jannik Sinner of any fault or negligence. The decision, which came after Sinner tested positive for a banned substance, allowed him to focus on his career without fear of suspension.

tennistonic.com

So then what’s this? Who is telling the truth? Is the case open or closed?

The case is advancing and moving forwards.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1842209776953856426

The ITIA convened a Tribunal. The Tribunal cleared her.
But in a rare move the ITIA has appealed the decision of its own Tribunal.

1. In Tara Moore's case, an independent tribunal cleared her of fault in December 2023, attributing her positive test to contaminated meat consumed in Colombia.
2. Surprisingly, the ITIA is now appealing this decision specifically concerning the nandrolone ruling to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).
3. This move by the ITIA is unusual and has raised questions in the tennis community, especially since:
   • The ITIA initially accepted the tribunal's decision and lifted Moore's provisional suspension.
   • The ITIA is only contesting Moore's case and not that of Barbara Gatica, who was cleared in the same ruling for the same issue.

 

[vokazu]

Sinner: "I haven't done anything wrong. This case is now closed.

"

WADA: ""

Sinner: "" "I'm disappointed"

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

Dopinner should be banned for life time.

 

[Oleksandr.Usyk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1842209776953856426

Shocking. Sinner is disgusting and slick. I am worried about tennis with an Italian ATP boss.

 

[aldeayeah]

Sinner has triggered WADA's trap card.

 

[FeroBango]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1842209776953856426

Sinner bots on socmed punch way above their weight.

 

[Biotic]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1842209776953856426

Tara revealed that Sinner's lawyer, Kendrah Potts, is actually ITIA's attorney who is currently prosecuting her.

This part is disturbing tbh.

 

[Smecz]

Whatever happens, Sinner is the luckiest guy in tennis,I don't know anyone greater than him...

 

[Sudacafan]

Dopinner should be banned for life time.

I think this is a bit harsh.

 

[Sudacafan]

Shocking. Sinner is disgusting and slick. I am worried about tennis with an Italian ATP boss.

Sinner is actually German, he's Italian by political accident.

 

[vokazu]

I think this is a bit harsh.

I think it's a really good idea if we seriously want to keep tennis clean.

 

[Sudacafan]

I think it's a really good idea if we seriously want to keep tennis clean.

That alone won't be enough.

 

[thrust]

Sinner is actually German, he's Italian by political accident.

Sinner was born, raised and is a citizen of, what has been for many years, Italy. Therefore, he is an Italian.

 

[Sudacafan]

Sinner was born, raised and is a citizen of, what has been for many years, Italy. Therefore, he is an Italian.

That is also correct.

 

[Bartelby]

It's probably due to political violence aka war, and no accident.

Sinner is actually German, he's Italian by political accident.

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

I think this is a bit harsh.

This is GPPD! Nothing's too harsh in order protect our beloved tennis from frauds.

 

[Sudacafan]

This is GPPD! Nothing's too harsh in order protect our beloved tennis from frauds.

Makes sense. Here we are all committed to end with corruption in all of its forms.

 

[Youngheart]

HELLO AGAIN FOLKS. I may have been banned for the last month, but I'll never know, because they don't say.
If anyone knows how that works, a lot of people here would like you to explain it!!

My thoughts about Sinner -------- The days of the "Big 3" are sadly behind us now, and if Sinner is (1) possibly innocent,
(2) one of the best players, and (3) liked by the tennis public, then I'm supporting him.
We need interesting great players, to keep the sport from slipping downward in public interest.

 

[vokazu]

That alone won't be enough.

But it's a good start

 

[vokazu]

"Guilty".

"At points I lost a little bit of smile because I had some issues off the court that are still in my mind.

"The situation that I am in is obviously not comfortable. I wish that I would not be in this position that I am in so I can play freely on the court. But, you know, you have to accept it.

Sinner's sad admission as doping saga takes 'uncomfortable' toll

'Lost a little bit of smile'

www.nine.com.au

 

[gamelovergold]

HELLO AGAIN FOLKS. I may have been banned for the last month, but I'll never know, because they don't say.
If anyone knows how that works, a lot of people here would like you to explain it!!

My thoughts about Sinner -------- The days of the "Big 3" are sadly behind us now, and if Sinner is (1) possibly innocent,
(2) one of the best players, and (3) liked by the tennis public, then I'm supporting him.
We need interesting great players, to keep the sport from slipping downward in public interest.

You will never know how you get ban and why your thread get deleted . That makes it a mystery

 

[norcal]

This part is disturbing tbh.

Tara revealed that Sinner's lawyer, Kendrah Potts, is actually ITIA's attorney who is currently prosecuting her.

^^ that can't possibly be true, can it?

Also Sinner is a flat out assassin, barely losing a final to Carlos then winning a Master's easily over Djoker in the final. Most players would be so distracted during this time.

Makes me like him more, lol. Ruthless.

 

[Rosstour]

Shocking. Sinner is disgusting and slick. I am worried about tennis with an Italian ATP boss.

Some of us were warning that replacing Kermode with Gaudenzi smelled fishy when it happened, and we were called crazy haters

And now look. The entire picture isn't clear, but there is a sordid saga involving Cahill, Patrick, Sinner, Djoko and the revolving door of physios and trainers between their two camps.

 

[Bride of Alcaraz]

HELLO AGAIN FOLKS. I may have been banned for the last month, but I'll never know, because they don't say.
If anyone knows how that works, a lot of people here would like you to explain it!!

My thoughts about Sinner -------- The days of the "Big 3" are sadly behind us now, and if Sinner is (1) possibly innocent,
(2) one of the best players, and (3) liked by the tennis public, then I'm supporting him.
We need interesting great players, to keep the sport from slipping downward in public interest.

But Sinner is disliked by the public because he should have been banned.
After WADA bans him for 2 years he'll be seen as a victim more and liked more maybe, we'll see!
Alcaraz is the player most people watch tennis for, because he plays a lot more aggressively (and with more variety) than Sinner...

WADA is sending the Sinner case to international arbitration so the decision to ban will be fully independent.

That's weird, i thought WADA was independent

 

[Bartelby]

WADA is sending the Sinner case to international arbitration so the decision to ban will be fully independent.

 

[Jonas78]

WADA has seemingly turned into an organization where getting as many athletes as possible convicted is more important than a clean sports.

 

[Bartelby]

The doping laws have always been draconian. You didn't test positive and get let off until Sinner and his compatriot came along.

WADA has seemingly turned into an organization where getting as many athletes as possible convicted is more important than a clean sports.

 

[Jonas78]

The doping laws have always been draconian. You didn't test positive and get let off until Sinner and his compatriot came along.

Yeah one thing was when the athletes rooms looked like labs in the EPO era, or heavy anabolic steroids use among bodybuilders, or the Sochi scandal. But when over-the-counter creams which normal people use everyday, turns you into a cheater, which according to specialists can even be transferred from another person, then something obviously has to change.

It seems like WADA is more into winning than keeping the sports clean.

 

[Bride of Alcaraz]

WADA has seemingly turned into an organization where getting as many athletes as possible convicted is more important than a clean sports.

But Sinner tested positive to a banned substance...
If you want to clean up tennis then you have to ban Sinner instead of believing his story.
Otherwise everyone will carry that spray in their bag and say "Look I only tested positive because of this pray!".

 

[Jonas78]

Delete

 

[Jonas78]

But Sinner tested positive to a banned substance...
If you want to clean up tennis then you have to ban Sinner instead of believing his story.
Otherwise everyone will carry that spray in their bag and say "Look I only tested positive because of this pray!".

Look at my other post.

When you are a "cheater" for using an over-the-counter cream which thousands of normal people use everyday, then youre miles away from the labs that the Lance Armstrong team was running. If the tests are so sensitive that cream can even be transferred from the hands of your physio, you have a scenario where it is close to impossible for athletes to play it safe, and things obviously have to change.

 

[TennisBro]

Contacted in the afternoon by the via Solferino newspaper, James Fitzgerald, Wada spokesman, confirmed that "Wada is still reviewing the documentation on the Sinner case received from Itia to decide whether to appeal. The time limit è of 21 days from the receipt of the documentation, which from us è arrived last week". Whether the case è definitively closed will still take days

Smells like money; someone's gonna get paid and the case swept under the carpet.

 

[RSJfan]

Smells like money; someone's gonna get paid and the case swept under the carpet.

If I may step into your conspiracy theory to link to exactly how much “someone’s gonna get paid.” It’s Oct and the case has already gone to CAS for appeal. It will be heard by three arbitrators agreed to by the parties from a list of approximately four hundred arbitrators that handle CAS cases.

Arbitration costs

www.tas-cas.org

List of arbitrators (general list)

www.tas-cas.org

 

[Watching]

Guys I understand you enjoy conspiracy theories but quoting articles from sept 10th when WADA actually appealed on the 26th is beyond stupid