MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I guess lol
Jannik Sinner to win AO 2024
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Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Agree with OP. Sinner is my pick to win AO 2024.
I think we are all a little deflated after the ATP final but that serving performance from Djokovic was Sampras-like. Can’t get too upset with Sinner not weaponising his return like he normally does when it is hard to get a racquet on the ball.
I think we are all a little deflated after the ATP final but that serving performance from Djokovic was Sampras-like. Can’t get too upset with Sinner not weaponising his return like he normally does when it is hard to get a racquet on the ball.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yall wildin' lol
This
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Ive got Sinner mania. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen someone hit like this guy does.
@travlerajm made a good point the other day about Sinner’s bio mechanics. The guys limbs are literally built differently.
Where are you at on 2024? I know you like Shelton but you’re worried about his consistency. Can you picture yourself ever becoming a Rune fan?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Rune is fine. I like Sinner's tennis, and he does hit big. I'm not "excited" about anyone, but they all make good highlight videos. I just want to see someone actually win something and then not lose for the next million years.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Here are my top picks for someone to take out Djokovic, in no particular order: Rafa, Carlitos, Medvedev, Zverev, Tiafoe. Probably needs to play at least two in that list.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Sensible post. I like Sinner and want him to win big things. However, the court suited him and with Italian crowd behind him he still couldn’t win or get close.
I think he has a bit to go but he’s improving for sure.
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Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Nice one. For me, his performances at the USO have actually been the least impressive. I recall an unimpressive loss to Zverev, a spectacular loss (but still a loss) to Carlitos, followed by the loss to Zed this year.
I think he faces stiffer competition at the USO than at Wimbledon or the French Open.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Nothing to do with mental strength or maturity. The only questions, as always, involve physical endurance and the serve. He was bad yesterday mainly because his legs were gone, and against a rabid peaking Djokovic that's always gonna result in a beatdown. In fact, he looked like he was starting to run on fumes already in the Rune match, but somehow managed to gut out two more impressive wins against major rivals. He had an amazing tournament and a very strong season, no reason to believe he won't be even better in 24. Then again, if you're expecting 20 slams you're bound to always be disappointed.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Sinner looks good, will lose to Egg in straight sets at AO 2024
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Har har har. He has his one win. The tables are turning.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
He is not tested in BO5 after USOpen. He won a lot but in BO3. In bo5 it would be new challenge and not proven yet that he can win.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
This GIF is incomprehensible to me.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Alcaraz is second favorite undoubtedly in Melbourne after Nole. Yes he lost a lot post Wimbledon but he can win in bo5 vs everyone.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Only one player stands between Djokovic and any Slam title, and his name is Carlos Alcaraz.People have been picking this young fellow to win majors almost since he hit the Tour, but his time may finally come Down Under in 2024.
Jannik Sinner - floats like a butterfly, steals like a fox.
To be clear, I think Jannik will need someone else to take out Nole for him.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
You can't prove it until you win.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
This is true, Carlitos is the second favorite. But due in part to bad luck he has not seen the same success in Melbourne that he has seen at the other majors.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
It aint happenin
Nope, he can't beat Rafa at FO.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
The future is open wide.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
He is literally the only guy who stood between Djokovic and CYGS.The Spaniard may be a little overhyped
And if Carlos is overhyped, what is Sinner? Ultra-inflationary hyped?
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Carlos is only guy who stopped Nole when it truly mattered. Not rune and sinner
Niekotokio
Semi-Pro
First, let's see how Sinner and Rune reach the final stage. I don't trust them
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Sinner is a work in progress. In 2022, he reached three QFs at three different Slams. This year, he worked on establishing his ranking.
Carlitos had an amazing year in 2023 reaching the semis at 2 Slams and winning a third. But I'm not convinced it is sustainable.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
This is a good point. A final is a different animal.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
This. Just because he lost steam after July doesn't mean he is a mug. He is a better BO5 player than anyone on tour not named Novak. Not to mention, he is just 20 and has been playing tennis relentlessly without a proper off season since 2021 at the very least. He is 2 years younger than Sinner & yet much more mature than the Italian.
Sinner is way too one dimensional to be a consistent top player at slams, and I think its only a matter of time before Alcaraz figures him out.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Sinner being a middle between Nole and Berdych may become a middle level player between them and win multiple slams. But he is no Carlos.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Sinner is 2 years older than Alcaraz.
In 2022, Sinner took Djokovic to 5 sets at Wimbledon and got straight setted in 2023.
Sinner lost to Tsitsipas and Zverev at both HC slams this year, didn't make QFs, lost early at RG & made it to the Wimbledon semis only because the draw with no top70 ALLOWED it.
For all the talks of him reaching some spectacular, Federer 2003-esque form in post-USO season, he still lost in the 2 biggest tournaments of that period (Shanghai and Paris master's) without even making it to the SFs at either. Just because he won a bunch of 500s over a declining Medvedev & has a matchup advantage (for now) over Alcaraz, doesn't mean he is in the same league as the Spaniard.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Sinner is no Berdych either, man. Berdych was way, way better at executing the 2 shots that matter the most in tennis, serve and forehand.
Berdych from 2012 AO produced a tennis level which Sinner hasn't eclipsed yet, and will likely never eclipse in his entire career
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Also favor Nole more than at USOpen
The one trick sinner will need to add variety to win Wimbledon. He can't bulldoze his way to the top.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Where are the sinner slices. Nole had slice but it was bad slice.
Sinner at his age is just a ball machine. May work for him in short run but he will need to add variety. I hope he will.
Sinner at his age is just a ball machine. May work for him in short run but he will need to add variety. I hope he will.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
For RG and Wimbledon the tiny one will have better chances. On HC is vulnerable to a lot more players.
Still if Rafa is back strong on clay and Djokodal performs strong at RG and Wimbledon then he could be blocked again. We will see.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Carlos Alcaraz is a spectacular young player, already very accomplished. I am not taking that away from him. But in my opinion, he has not faced consistent competition from anyone not named Djokovic.
That's what I think will change going forward. People love to talk about age, but players mature at different rates. Just look at Monfils.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Sinner is no longer a ball machine. Cahill has taught him how to mix it up (and he does have a bad slice, which is why he doesn't use it very often). But he reverted to old habits in the final of the YEC.
What needs to be done at this point is not going to be done by Medvedev or Zverev. Playing chaotically is in the playbook of Rune, Kyrgios, Bublik, Shelton and Davidovich. That they are able to play this kind of game instead of being victims of Nole's spider web to battle from the baseline to their own suicide for UE is another thing. Even more in 5 sets.
Sinner may hit the hardest and better angles, but Djo knows what he's going to do even before he decides, and he can turn pace into whatever he wants. Actually it's better to play with with height and depth to force him to imprint pace and power and making him tired rather than getting tired yourself.
pirhaksar
Professional
It’s quite possible. Problem is he expends lot of energy in week 1 fending off ppl he needs to beat in straights. He can’t keep playing 5 setters back to back in week 1 since he will have to do that in week 2. If he can have enough gas in the tank come last 8 stage, he can do it. Yes, if someone takes out Nole then that just doubles his odds
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Right, I don't think Sinner is taking out Djokovic for exactly the reasons you state. He needs someone else to do it for him.
But I disagree about Medvedev. He has beaten Novak in Bo5, and he can do it again. But he isn't going to beat both Djokovic and Carlitos in the same tournament more than likely.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Monfils was already doing stuff in 2008 when he turned 22.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
He's beaten the worst Djokovic to ever play in that BO5. Their other slam finals were both convincing wins for Djokovic.
Med can beat Djokovic in BO5 IF Djokovic doesn't show up, but not if he's playing decently.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Yet you think Tiafoe has a chance to defeat Novak at the AO? Surely that's a joke or drunk posting. Tiafoe has as much chance as Schwartzman doing it.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
No one can stop Novak at the AO. The guy wins even when he's carrying injuries.
I thought Carlos could, but given his relative ineptitude on faster HC, we can pretty much kiss his chances goodbye.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Jannik proved yesterday he can fold in the big matches when the expectations are high.
Like in Miami this year - after straight setting a hot Carlos alcaraz, he absolutely crumbled against a tired Daniil medvedev who played 6 straight finals in 6 tourneys lol.
Then the bright lights at USO - he absolutely crumbled against zverev when there was the hot anticipation of a sinner/alcaraz QF.
It’s one thing to play your best tennis in October- November when everyone else is reeling. But there’s a certain clutch gene vs his talent that makes it hard to question.
Both med, Carlos and Novak stated if he can consistently play at his level - he can win multiple slams and be #1. The problem with sinner is consistency.
Like in Miami this year - after straight setting a hot Carlos alcaraz, he absolutely crumbled against a tired Daniil medvedev who played 6 straight finals in 6 tourneys lol.
Then the bright lights at USO - he absolutely crumbled against zverev when there was the hot anticipation of a sinner/alcaraz QF.
It’s one thing to play your best tennis in October- November when everyone else is reeling. But there’s a certain clutch gene vs his talent that makes it hard to question.
Both med, Carlos and Novak stated if he can consistently play at his level - he can win multiple slams and be #1. The problem with sinner is consistency.
itrium84
Hall of Fame
As no4, he can meet Novak only at the semis or on the final. No player ever was able to win Novak at AO in SF or F.People have been picking this young fellow to win majors almost since he hit the Tour, but his time may finally come Down Under in 2024.
Jannik Sinner - floats like a butterfly, steals like a fox.
To be clear, I think Jannik will need someone else to take out Nole for him.
Maybe Wawrinka at QF can do the job, wouldn't be his 1st time.
Jannik, Holger and Carlos are next big thing. Above likes of Daniel, Andrey, Sasha and Stefanos. Novak is present alpha, who will yield to one of those three some time in the future. He is not unbeatable, no one is. All three new kids beat him already, and will improve their game.
Jannik being the topic, has shown most improvement, as of late. He moves extraordinarily, is strong from both sides, has excellent first serve and very good second serve, has second best return winning % of second serves, after Novak. He has calm and confidence, positive attitude. He could be better on the net, and you could have seen him trying to mix a bit, late in second set of Finals. Means he is aware of importance of net play, short balls, mixing up. Things just need to slow down a bit for him, to read a game just a bit better. And we know that comes with experience. He has already improved a lot in that department. I have no doubt he will be a Slam winner, and possibly even next year. Novak is still strong favourite, but not untouchable, not in every single match.
Jannik being the topic, has shown most improvement, as of late. He moves extraordinarily, is strong from both sides, has excellent first serve and very good second serve, has second best return winning % of second serves, after Novak. He has calm and confidence, positive attitude. He could be better on the net, and you could have seen him trying to mix a bit, late in second set of Finals. Means he is aware of importance of net play, short balls, mixing up. Things just need to slow down a bit for him, to read a game just a bit better. And we know that comes with experience. He has already improved a lot in that department. I have no doubt he will be a Slam winner, and possibly even next year. Novak is still strong favourite, but not untouchable, not in every single match.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
As no4, he can meet Novak only at the semis or on the final. No player ever was able to win Novak at AO in SF or F.
Maybe Wawrinka at QF can do the job, wouldn't be his 1st time.
But Rafa is a floater and Zverev and Rune are dangerous before the QFs.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
He has a very slight chance. Like 2%. But that's better than Schwartzman.
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