Jannik Sinner

Keizer

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I have been watching the Next Gen ATP final. Really like this kid Jannik Sinner. His backhand reminds me of Berdych/Djokovic. Good athlete, possess an ideal height for a tennis player. We might be looking at a future top 10 here.

Easy power like the Berd. I think he'll be top 25 by the end of next season; always a good sign when a player can hit ATP pros off the court already and still has some filling out to do.
 
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He reminds me of his countryman, Andreas Seppi in the way he takes his backhand and forehand.

He reminds me of Seppi because he looks similar, perhaps unsurprisingly as they are both Tyrolean.

Sinner has much more flair in his game and whippier attacking strokes.
 
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Really impressed with this kid. He hits the ball so hard.
He seems pretty calm and composed, saved all of his 9 break points with ruthless ball striking.
Also impressive how low his unforced error count was today considering how hard he was going for every single ball.
Pleasure to watch, for a change.
 
Sinner looks more like an Austrian than an Italian which isn't such a surprise considering where he was born. Regardless, he is the next Italian Stallion.
 

Mainad

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He reminds me of Seppi because he looks similar, perhaps unsurprisingly as they are both Tyrolean.

Both are from the South Tyrol which, before the First World War, belonged to Austria. This is why they look more Austrian than typically Italian and their first language is German.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
He's top 5. But I have my doubts about him making it top 3 or 2

I agree, but who do you have in front of him?

I suspect Medvedev might be a bit too clever for him, but he could tread on the heels of Tsitsipas and Zverev. I leave Djokovic (and the other Big 3 members) because it's unclear if he will play too much outside of the Slams.
 

James P

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I agree, but who do you have in front of him?

I suspect Medvedev might be a bit too clever for him, but he could tread on the heels of Tsitsipas and Zverev. I leave Djokovic (and the other Big 3 members) because it's unclear if he will play too much outside of the Slams.
I remember him being interviewed after their first meeting and saying he learned nothing from that match because he had literally no idea what Medvedev was doing to him, LMAO. He sort of reiterated that point doing a Zoom call with Karen Khachanov during the covid break last summer. He said something like "Medvedev is the toughest guy I've played."

Edit: I found the clip. Roughly 15:45 to 18:20, I cued it up at 15:45.
 
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Nadal_King

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Sinner is going to be best player of new generation and can dominate tennis for next decade or so since his game transcends well on all surfaces
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
I think Jannik will have some challengers, but he has positioned himself very well for Torino and 2022. At which Slam will he have the most success next year?
 

James P

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I think Jannik will have some challengers, but he has positioned himself very well for Torino and 2022. At which Slam will he have the most success next year?
If he doesn't play 3 matches in 2 days on the eve of his opening match in Melbourne, theoretically I like his chances there most. A little bit unlucky in 2021 to just come into the AO exhausted.
 

Nadal_King

Hall of Fame
I think Jannik will have some challengers, but he has positioned himself very well for Torino and 2022. At which Slam will he have the most success next year?
Rg I think but needs to avoid Rafa if he is fully fit as rafa just destroys him, also at Hardcourt slams he can be a force
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
That's the interesting thing about Jannik, he has at least 3 Slams where he could have a great run, at the least. I'm curious whether his new serve will help a lot on the grass, as well.
 

adil1972

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both sampras & djok right now have 6 YE#1 record

but sampras was for six consecutive years

so what is your opinion

are both records the same or sampras more impressive
 

thrust

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both sampras & djok right now have 6 YE#1 record

but sampras was for six consecutive years

so what is your opinion

are both records the same or sampras more impressive
A bit more, but Novak still has the same YE at #1 as Pete and 1, and possibly 2 more than Roger and Rafa at the end of this year.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Anyways, back to Jannik...I think he gets to a few semifinals next year, and maybe even a final at one of the Slams, maybe RG?
 

Aabye5

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I remember him being interviewed after their first meeting and saying he learned nothing from that match because he had literally no idea what Medvedev was doing to him, LMAO. He sort of reiterated that point doing a Zoom call with Karen Khachanov during the covid break last summer. He said something like "Medvedev is the toughest guy I've played."

Edit: I found the clip. Roughly 15:45 to 18:20, I cued it up at 15:45.

Khachanov seems so chill, and Jannik's thoughts on Med were interesting
 

Purestriker

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Anyways, back to Jannik...I think he gets to a few semifinals next year, and maybe even a final at one of the Slams, maybe RG?
I agree. His play the last few weeks has been really strong and he will win a slam within the next few years. Was a little disappointed with his comments towards Francis, hopefully that was just raw emotions after losing when he was up big.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
I agree. His play the last few weeks has been really strong and he will win a slam within the next few years. Was a little disappointed with his comments towards Francis, hopefully that was just raw emotions after losing when he was up big.

They're buddies so I think it will be okay in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Korda isn't ranked as high but has smoother serve, groundstrokes and volleys.
 

socallefty

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Watched Alcaraz and Sinner matches from court side at Indian Wells - I’ve seen Sinner live before, but first time watching Carlos.

- They both hit huge groundstrokes as advertised with good shot tolerance. Alcaraz seems to vary pace better as he can suddenly inject pace on neutral balls and change the point pattern in his favor. He also hits slice more on his BH to change up rallies or play stretch defense.
- They both can hit faster 1st serves than I expected in the 130s.
- They both need to improve serve location targeting and 2nd serves in general. Sinner is taller and maybe has more upside to improve his serve further.
- Carlos is one of the best/fastest movers on tour (reminds you of a young Nadal) whereas Sinner seems to lack the movement that defines top 3 players capable of playing great defense and winning many Slams.
- Carlos has unbelievable touch and apart from great dropshots will only get better at the net where he is willing to come in already to finish points. Sinner in contrast has rock-like hands and is terrible with finesse shots - don’t see him getting great at the net. Carlos has more upside for adding variety to his game to adjust to different surfaces and opponents.
- They both seem mentally tough with good success for their age.
- Alcaraz looks physically strong for his age with very strong legs while Sinner looks scrawny like he doesn’t work out as much in the gym - don’t know if it will affect endurance during 2-week tournaments, summer heat etc. On the other hand, muscular guys sometimes get injured more.

I went into the tournament thinking that Sinner and Alcaraz have a good chance to be the two superstars from their generation. I came away thinking that Alcaraz has much better upside because of his superior movement, variety and finesse. I think he is more of an all-surface threat for the future whereas I would back Sinner only on slow surfaces.
 
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^ I agree Sinner will not be as great as Korda/Alcaraz.
 

Wurm

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I went into the tournament thinking that Sinner and Alcaraz have a good chance to be the two superstars from their generation. I came away thinking that Alcaraz has much better upside because of his superior movement, variety and finesse. I think he is more of an all-surface threat for the future whereas I would back Sinner only on slow surfaces.

- They both need to improve serve location targeting and 2nd serves in general. Sinner is taller and maybe has more upside to improve his serve further.

Sinner's got the air of being a scrawny version of Berdych. Great ball striking, good (but not great) serve and doesn't move that well. My niggle with Sinner is that there's a slight lack of chutzpah to him - it's one thing to retain an Always Be Learning mindset to your game and another to project the air of not being quite sure of yourself.

Sinner's only been on the platform serve since Wimbledon last year, at least as a pro, and everything got very stiff and upright towards the end of last year whereas now it's starting to look a bit more fluid and natural, so it might take a little more time for his serve to entirely come together.
 
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