JJ Wolf is legit good

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
This up and coming American has real potential. I'm not in the habit of hyping up American youngsters, but I think Wolf is the real deal; he has the athleticism, the tools, and most importantly, the mental strength to break into the top 50 at least. Excited to follow his journey in the upcoming few years.
Age, results, video footage?

If true, in for epic thread.
 

PistolPete23

Semi-Pro
So he sounds like all the other Americans that broke into the top 50...
I wouldn't say all Americans who "recently" broke into top 50 are particularly strong mentally. I thought Sock had real potential to compete for a slam, but he seems to be rather out of shape these days and more interested in building a doubles career.
 

The Blond Blur

Hall of Fame
This up and coming American has real potential. I'm not in the habit of hyping up American youngsters, but I think Wolf is the real deal; he has the athleticism, the physicality, no glaring weaknesses, and most importantly, the mental strength to break into the top 50 at least. Excited to follow his journey in the upcoming few years.
I actually saw him play at the USTA Boy's Championship in the summer of 2017 while workng on the athletic training staff. He ended up winning the 18's, and was a lot of fun to watch.
 

PistolPete23

Semi-Pro
Age, results, video footage?

If true, in for epic thread.
There are a lot of Challenger matches you can find on YT. He was the #1 ranked college player out of Ohio State and since turning pro, He's been consistently beating a lot of players in Challengers who were or are top 100. I see particularly strong serve for a guy that's 6'0", speed and great mover on the court, patience constructing points, rarely loses his cool, plays at a consistent level throughout a match. I liked this match in particular against Istomin.

 
There are a lot of Challenger matches you can find on YT. He was the #1 ranked college player out of Ohio State and since turning pro, He's been consistently beating a lot of players in Challengers who were or are top 100. I see particularly strong serve for a guy that's 6'0", speed and great mover on the court, patience constructing points, rarely loses his cool, plays at a consistent level throughout a match. I liked this match in particular against Istomin.

He stands way behind the baseline.
 

daggerman

Semi-Pro
He reminds me a bit of Kecmanovic, both in terms of build and skill set.

I can't help but wonder how much further along he'd be had he not gone to college.
 

accidental

Hall of Fame
Remember that time Agassi referred to Vince Spadea as a ‘journeyman’, when Spadea had been ranked in the top 20 at one point

Hopefully this guy can do better than top 50
 

PistolPete23

Semi-Pro
It is when they are past their primes.

Anderson, Isner, and Johnson all had their success in recent years.
Not convinced by your argument at all. You seem to suggest that the entirety of the tour became weaker, thus allowing Anderson and Johnson to shine and the Big-3 to remain at the pedestal. Isner broke into top 10 in 2012, so I wouldn't consider his success recent, and if you watch Anderson's matches in the year where he made it to the Wimbledon and US Open finals, it was obvious that he had elevated his game to a new level, not that his competition had weakened. That the Big-3 are still competing for slams is a testament to their greatness rather than the tour's "weakness." When I see Djokovic and Nadal now play, I don't notice much of a decline in athletic ability, not in the same way Agassi had visibly declined by the end of his career. Federer is admittedly slower on his feet, but the reflexes are still amazingly there, and he's constantly adapting his game to compete against more physical youngsters (playing more S&V etc.).
 

PistolPete23

Semi-Pro
Let's see if he can make this potential truly 'legit good' by starting to win matches and titles on the main tour. At the age of almost 22 he's already well past the age limit for a boy wonder.
He obviously won't be a "boy wonder," but there's still a chance for him to have a successful career and compete for slams. Who was the last boy wonder on tour who won major titles? I think the game has become too physical for anymore boy wonders to emerge.
 
Not convinced by your argument at all. You seem to suggest that the entirety of the tour became weaker, thus allowing Anderson and Johnson to shine and the Big-3 to remain at the pedestal. Isner broke into top 10 in 2012, so I wouldn't consider his success recent, and if you watch Anderson's matches in the year where he made it to the Wimbledon and US Open finals, it was obvious that he had elevated his game to a new level, not that his competition had weakened. That the Big-3 are still competing for slams is a testament to their greatness rather than the tour's "weakness." When I see Djokovic and Nadal now play, I don't notice much of a decline in athletic ability, not in the same way Agassi had visibly declined by the end of his career. Federer is admittedly slower on his feet, but the reflexes are still amazingly there, and he's constantly adapting his game to compete against more physical youngsters (playing more S&V etc.).
Sorry, but if you think Rafa and djoker are anywhere close to their best, you are mistaken.

But even if you believe that Isner, Anderson, and Johnson all happened to get better during the exact same time (all on tour for a while and all had relative success in the same time), it took them till they were much older to make an impact.

This means younger players in general are not playing a special level of tennis.

Do you really think Johnson and Isner were playing top level of tennis during their success?
 

Swingmaster

Rookie
I saw him in Cincy against RBA with the crowd on his side and he was strutting around, enjoying the stage. played pretty well. Has a pretty robust body as someone mentioned. Serena style lower body and core. If Serena can get around, I guess this guy can too.
 
No one said anything about top ten or twenty. Solid top 50 is the discussion here, which is pretty sad. An American with top 50, maybe 30 potential. Might as well talk about Nakashima. 18 or 19 who’s proabably a top 50 talent wise player right now.
The answer to my questions is zero? I honestly don't know the answer
 

PistolPete23

Semi-Pro
The answer to my questions is zero? I honestly don't know the answer
The count is low for sure, but all the ones who made it big on the tour also dominated their competition by a large margin during college. Todd Martin, James Blake, Kevin Anderson, and John Isner all broke top 10. Not aware of others.
 
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Tshooter

Legend
I saw him in Cincy against RBA with the crowd on his side and he was strutting around, enjoying the stage. played pretty well. Has a pretty robust body as someone mentioned. Serena style lower body and core. If Serena can get around, I guess this guy can too.i
Nice superfluous dig at Serena.:giggle: How she got into this thread is anyone’s guess.:unsure:
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Not convinced by your argument at all. You seem to suggest that the entirety of the tour became weaker, thus allowing Anderson and Johnson to shine and the Big-3 to remain at the pedestal. Isner broke into top 10 in 2012, so I wouldn't consider his success recent, and if you watch Anderson's matches in the year where he made it to the Wimbledon and US Open finals, it was obvious that he had elevated his game to a new level, not that his competition had weakened. That the Big-3 are still competing for slams is a testament to their greatness rather than the tour's "weakness." When I see Djokovic and Nadal now play, I don't notice much of a decline in athletic ability, not in the same way Agassi had visibly declined by the end of his career. Federer is admittedly slower on his feet, but the reflexes are still amazingly there, and he's constantly adapting his game to compete against more physical youngsters (playing more S&V etc.).
The youngsters should have pushed out the Isners and the Andersons of this world. So yeah, weakened competition.
 

haqq777

Legend
Saw him play on many occasions. I was there when Fenty of Michigan handed him his first loss of the season too. Very nice game. @sanister actually is family friends with the Wolfs.
Which year in college was this for Wolf? His opponent in this match had a pretty sweet one-hander!
This was last year, a few months before he announced he was going pro. Kovacevic actually played Wolf twice last year in April. This match in the video clip was the first time and was played in Champaign where he fell to Wolf in two tiebreakers. The second time they met was during the Big Ten Tournament Final. Kovacevic won against Wolf in first set tiebreaker but the match went unfinished as OSU claimed the Big Ten title. These two guys play excellent quality matches and seem to know each others game well.
 

PistolPete23

Semi-Pro
JJ Wolf lost to a freshman by the name of Sam Riffice at the 2019 NCAA men single in the round of 16. He lost to a freshman, for crying loud. The dude is no good.
I didn't see the match. Maybe JJ had an off day; maybe Riffice played the best match of his life. But I know JJ Wolf had a 35-2 singles record playing the number one single spot his final college season. So yeah, I think the dude is pretty good. We'll just have to see where he is a year from now. Maybe I'm wrong and y'all can laugh then.
 
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