Jobs coming open?

Not hearing about any jobs coming open yet. Usually we start hearing some grumblings of movement. Couple of jobs I could see some movement on in the Power 5 is: Washington and Auburn. Anyone hearing anything?
 

atatu

Legend
Texas seems like an obvious choice although they might just keep Berque on, supposedly Roditi is angling for it.
 

Rattler

Hall of Fame
Texas seems like an obvious choice although they might just keep Berque on, supposedly Roditi is angling for it.

I don’t think Berque will land the job, unless he wins the Title...Actually Roditi would be a great fit.
 
Texas seems like an obvious choice although they might just keep Berque on, supposedly Roditi is angling for it.
If Mr. Frog Roditi is trying to get UT then that is him basically admitting he can't get it done at his Alma Matar. That in my mind would be a total failure at his time at TCU.
 
If Mr. Frog Roditi is trying to get UT then that is him basically admitting he can't get it done at his Alma Matar. That in my mind would be a total failure at his time at TCU.

Yeah I just can't see him making that move. He seems to be very committed to creating a big tennis culture at TCU . It has been working too with the big crowds they get to matches. He can get all the high level recruits he wants to TCU. I can't think of any reason why being at Texas would allow him to get players that he wouldn't be able to get at TCU.
 

Rattler

Hall of Fame
Yeah I just can't see him making that move. He seems to be very committed to creating a big tennis culture at TCU . It has been working too with the big crowds they get to matches. He can get all the high level recruits he wants to TCU. I can't think of any reason why being at Texas would allow him to get players that he wouldn't be able to get at TCU.


Ummm. How about a bigger paycheck?
 

borna coric

Semi-Pro
Why would anyone want to be a tennis coach unless he/she is independently wealthy? Lot of responsibilities but not enough pay. I looked up the University of Virginia men tennis head coach and his salary is $275K/year. That coach must has a lot of responsibilities for a lot of people. I make more money as an engineer than the UVA men tennis head coach and I have much less responsibilities than he does. UVA is a tennis power house and the coach only makes 275k/year. Coaches at lower tier schools must be making peanuts. I really feel for them. Those guys must really love what they do. Hat off to them.
 

atatu

Legend
Why would anyone want to be a tennis coach unless he/she is independently wealthy? Lot of responsibilities but not enough pay. I looked up the University of Virginia men tennis head coach and his salary is $275K/year. That coach must has a lot of responsibilities for a lot of people. I make more money as an engineer than the UVA men tennis head coach and I have much less responsibilities than he does. UVA is a tennis power house and the coach only makes 275k/year. Coaches at lower tier schools must be making peanuts. I really feel for them. Those guys must really love what they do. Hat off to them.

Yeah, you'e told us many times how much money you make, but for "regular folk" $275k to coach tennis is pretty damn good. In addition there is the opportunity to make more money through summer camps, etc. You are correct, most college coaches really love the game, that's why they do it. Congrats on your salary by the way, you are very smart.
 

borna coric

Semi-Pro
Yeah, you'e told us many times how much money you make, but for "regular folk" $275k to coach tennis is pretty damn good. In addition there is the opportunity to make more money through summer camps, etc. You are correct, most college coaches really love the game, that's why they do it. Congrats on your salary by the way, you are very smart.

Not just me but generally any good software architect or Cyber Security engineer make more than the UVA coach and no you don't have to be smart to be a software architect or Cyber security engineer. Just like tennis, you just need to love what you do.
 

xbr

Rookie
Why would anyone want to be a tennis coach unless he/she is independently wealthy? Lot of responsibilities but not enough pay. I looked up the University of Virginia men tennis head coach and his salary is $275K/year. That coach must has a lot of responsibilities for a lot of people. I make more money as an engineer than the UVA men tennis head coach and I have much less responsibilities than he does. UVA is a tennis power house and the coach only makes 275k/year. Coaches at lower tier schools must be making peanuts. I really feel for them. Those guys must really love what they do. Hat off to them.
Ole Miss Head Coach earns less than 100k. Try to put that in perspective...
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
Not just me but generally any good software architect or Cyber Security engineer make more than the UVA coach and no you don't have to be smart to be a software architect or Cyber security engineer. Just like tennis, you just need to love what you do.
Only if you live in a much more expensive place than Charlottesville.
 

borna coric

Semi-Pro
Only if you live in a much more expensive place than Charlottesville.

Understood. However, those positions like software architect and Cyber Security allow people to either telework or work from home. Therefore, you can make more money than the UVA men tennis coach and live in Charlottesville
 

xbr

Rookie
that is actually very surprising and sad for an SEC school
Very true, but tennis is a non-revenue sport and it is very hard to justify the reason for a head coach to have a salary higher than 100k. Unless the team plays in elite eight or final four every year, I actually do not see a reason why a head coach should have a salary higher than 100k.
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
Very true, but tennis is a non-revenue sport and it is very hard to justify the reason for a head coach to have a salary higher than 100k. Unless the team plays in elite eight or final four every year, I actually do not see a reason why a head coach should have a salary higher than 100k.
Define revenue sport? Revenue for whom?
 

xbr

Rookie
Define revenue sport? Revenue for whom?
Those would be football, basketball, and baseball in some cases. Revenue sports are basically ones that bring a substantial amount of net revenue to the school. Most sports, such is tennis do not bring any revenue yet they are not cheap to support. Would you disagree or?
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
Those would be football, basketball, and baseball in some cases. Revenue sports are basically ones that bring a substantial amount of net revenue to the school. Most sports, such is tennis do not bring any revenue yet they are not cheap to support. Would you disagree or?
I would be silly to disagree, but I don’t believe that football, basketball and baseball generate as much revenue as we believe. Thus, the question. I would be interested to see what a state school generates from baseball compared to what they spend. If a Power 5 football coach “had love for the game,” they would coach for $150,000.00.
 
I would be silly to disagree, but I don’t believe that football, basketball and baseball generate as much revenue as we believe. Thus, the question. I would be interested to see what a state school generates from baseball compared to what they spend. If a Power 5 football coach “had love for the game,” they would coach for $150,000.00.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...5edd22c0-465c-11e7-8b99-c709d5eb08c1.amp.html

According to this from a couple years ago only 5 SEC baseball programs make money, 7 lose money (Tennessee loses 4 million!) Which is by far the biggest baseball conference in the country. Baseball expenses are very high considering the amount of away games, field upkeep, high equipment costs and size of roster.

While tennis does not make any money, the expenses are lower than many other sports since the teams are small and equipment costs aren't that high.
 

xbr

Rookie
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...5edd22c0-465c-11e7-8b99-c709d5eb08c1.amp.html

According to this from a couple years ago only 5 SEC baseball programs make money, 7 lose money (Tennessee loses 4 million!) Which is by far the biggest baseball conference in the country. Baseball expenses are very high considering the amount of away games, field upkeep, high equipment costs and size of roster.

While tennis does not make any money, the expenses are lower than many other sports since the teams are small and equipment costs aren't that high.
That is exactly why I wrote "baseball in some cases". Either way, there is no reason for a head coach of a college tennis team to have salary higher than 100k.
 
That is exactly why I wrote "baseball in some cases". Either way, there is no reason for a head coach of a college tennis team to have salary higher than 100k.

Probably only a few do.

Btw, this is something we should keep in mind when calling for coaches jobs in this thread. They aren't like basketball and football coaches who are making millions and can easily survive being fired. A tennis coach's life and family could actually be substantially impacted if they are fired.
 

xbr

Rookie
Probably only a few do.

Btw, this is something we should keep in mind when calling for coaches jobs in this thread. They aren't like basketball and football coaches who are making millions and can easily survive being fired. A tennis coach's life and family could actually be substantially impacted if they are fired.
I definitely agree with you. There is actually no need for a coach of a tennis team to "perform" at the highest level all the time. However, a lot of it depends on the AD. Either way, in my opinion, as long as the team is constantly making the NCAA and the top 30 ranking, the coach should be in a good position to keep the job excluding unforeseen circumstances.
 
As a Tiger fan, I have to think the Clemson men’s job will be open soon. John is a great guy but I just don’t see him getting the job done.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Don't forget that many college coaches supplement their incomes by running summer tennis camps and programs--this supplement can be quite substantial.
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
But the possibility of money is not the same thing as money...
$100,000.00 is not much. Do a comparison of what a losing basketball coach or a mediocre football coach makes and factor in the size of the coaching staff per player. Tennis coaches are not, have not and will not be paid what they are worth at any collegel level.
 

xbr

Rookie
But the possibility of money is not the same thing as money...
$100,000.00 is not much. Do a comparison of what a losing basketball coach or a mediocre football coach makes and factor in the size of the coaching staff per player. Tennis coaches are not, have not and will not be paid what they are worth at any collegel level.
Basketball and football, as sports, are generating revenue. Tennis is not. What is tennis doing for the university other than being a brand/good image?

Avg working salary in Oxford, MS is $38,459. Along with Summer camps, coach can earn fairly above 100k... that is more than enough for a tennis coach.
 

SavvyStringer

Professional
Salary all depends on program and your budget. Both of our coaches at USC do well. You also have to consider what is typically advertised is their base salary not their total comp. Total comp includes bonuses for various things (All-Americans, conference position, final ranking, W-L). Many of these guys also have recruiting budgets built into their season budget that don't count as compensation but during the summer they'll travel all over the world recruiting. It also doesn't take into account things like University phone, car, clothing allowance. My cousin was the 2nd assistant womens soccer coach at Ole Miss for 3-4 years. She got a university phone and car which were part of her comp but not listed as they were paid for by boosters. I'm sure if the 2nd assistant for womens soccer is getting it, the head coaches for tennis are. Cars are a recruiting piece for when they pick up players at the airport. At one point our womens coach was driving a brand new Jag sedan that the university was paying for. You have to consider the overall perks and comp with these jobs. It's very much like owning your own business, if you take a recruit or current team members out, pay with the team card and it's basically a write off. Personally as many other posters have said, I'll take a 100k job any day of the week since I'm not a cyber security expert.
 
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SavvyStringer

Professional
Basketball and football, as sports, are generating revenue. Tennis is not. What is tennis doing for the university other than being a brand/good image?

Avg working salary in Oxford, MS is $38,459. Along with Summer camps, coach can earn fairly above 100k... that is more than enough for a tennis coach.
Short answer: Womens tennis fulfills a title IX requirement. Also tends to boost athletics GPA.
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
I just believe that salaries and compensation should be equivalent across all levels of sport. They have not been so in the past. Further, as noted in post #33, universities and boosters have made it difficult to determine the compensation a coach receives-coincedence?
 

jcgatennismom

Hall of Fame
Is Matt Knoll going to take another job? His underhanded ways would fit perfectly at Auburn
He's running his own college recruiting business now. He was on Parenting Aces this week talking his tennis background (he didnt start playing until soph year HS), recruiting in general, his new business, and his summer Dallas showcase for recruits https://parentingaces.com/how-to-get-in-front-of-college-coaches-with-matt-knoll/ His new company https://www.americancollegeplacement.com/ advertises itself as a "boutique service." Boutique probably means Beaucoup $
 
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He's running his own college recruiting business now. He was on Parenting Aces this week talking his tennis background (he didnt start playing until soph year HS), recruiting in general, his new business, and his summer Dallas showcase for recruits https://parentingaces.com/how-to-get-in-front-of-college-coaches-with-matt-knoll/ His new company https://www.americancollegeplacement.com/ advertises itself as a "boutique service." Boutique probably means Beaucoup $
I can't imagine that he would not love to get back into it. I would expect him to be in the mix this summer.
 
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