Jodar - The Real Deal !!

Jodar is good! For a 19 year old who has been on tour for less than a half-year he shows qualities (mental toughness, game awareness )that most of the tour doesn't. Wait til he adds a little muscle to his 6'4" 154 lb frame.
To me he's nothing like Fils. He has the foundation to play an all-court game and be threat. We saw a glimpse today and all week.
His mindset like Sinner to put in the work, learn and improve will be the difference. Seems so many of the 5-30 players either don't have the ingredients or the willingness and dedication to really challenge the top players.
It seems he does.

Recognizing potential is not premature it is merely being astute. The fact that he has realized a portion of it in such a short is astounding. The way he destroyed de Minaur and battled Sinner show he's already above where many hope to be.
The results are showing signs of it now and without any points to defend he is only a 5-600 points away from top 30.
He reminds me a little bit of Sinner in style and mentality, he's skinny a little but he's an incredibly hard hitter, strong baseliner, and he has the spirit to win. His tools are also incredibly underrated just because he's not that flashy.
 
People declaring this guy as top 10 or 3rd in a year or so is ridiculous. He has only beaten Fonseca on clay and it could've been a straight set win for Fonseca had he not missed those sitting ducks in the first set tiebreaker. Jodar has no other big wins.

Hard Court results
IW - Tabilo def Jodar 6-1, 6-2, Rd 128
Miami - Etcheverry def Jodar - 7-5. 6-4 Rd 64
Delray Beach - Fritz def. Jodar 7-6, 6-4 (Fritz is semi-injured) round of 16, Jodar did beat Quinn the previous round.
Dallas Open - Shapovalov def. Jodar , 6-1, 6-2, round of 32
Australian Open - Mensik def. Jodar, 6-2, 6-4, 6-4 second round

What it shows is he will be strong on clay courts, but not hard or grass.
I don't see him as the 3rd guy with Vacherot, Fils, Fonseca, Shelton, and Tien.
Could be very true!
Anytime Shapovalov beats you it's a concern!!

I stand by my words though - I like what I saw! I do think he's the type who's willing to put in the work to keep getting better. Growing pains - it comes with the territory!
 
This guy IS the real deal!
On clay at least he is probable the 3rd best player in the world already and he is just getting started.
Can he play on hardcourts and grass?

He plays with style, power, touch and gets to everything! He may have lost today (to the No.1 player in the the world) but he showed he belonged and even today left a lot on the table.

Rafa Jodar you can now take a seat at the table with Sinner and Alcaraz!!!
Do you really want us to take you seriously when you call yourself… that?
 
BloX is also showing promise with this week being his most demanding and taking out some well known clay masters
after overcoming long matches versus tough players has raised his level and showing great mental abilities and skills

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As cool as ice too and no nonsense straight shooter character
 
BloX is also showing promise with this week being his most demanding and taking out some well known clay masters
after overcoming long matches versus tough players has raised his level and showing great mental abilities and skills

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12C. Ruud44
A. Blockx66
Video highlights · 9 hours ago
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16F. Cerúndolo682
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A. Blockx366
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A. Blockx477


As cool as ice too and no nonsense straight shooter character
The Big BLOCK is a total wall!
 
I had him in my radar for a while, he won a bunch of Challengers last year and beat Tien in the NG finals despite being 1 year younger than most of the field.

Still he has improved to top 30 level faster than expected.

Fellow NG participant Blockx is in the Madrid semis too.
Good call. You had him on your Jodar - I mean Radar!! Haven't had the chance to see Blockx yet but will be watching him in a moment!! He must be doing something right this week too!!
Such a pleasure to see hard working dedicated up and coming young players.
 
Jodar had a pretty good run on clay so far - semifinal in Barcelona, quarter final in Madrid... what will Rome tell us? Who is going to keep their run going Fils, Blockx or Jodar?
Can any of them keep their focus and form and make a break through vs. Sinner or Zverev? Can Zverev make a break through vs. Sinner? Tell us magic 8-ball !
 
Jodar and Blockx rewarded for their fine efforts in Madrid.

Rome awaits !! Will the they maintain focus and fitness to continue their ascent?

Funny how in the course of a week or two everyone is wondering about their racquets specs and equipment!


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Uncle Toni ( Nadal) says: Jodar Will Soon Be One of Best in World (in a few years).

Like No. 1 Sinner and No. 2 Carlos Alacaraz, has finishing power on both wings. The world’s top two are better defenders and coming out of the corners. Toni Nadal says Jodar must improve his defense and ability to extend points. However, Uncle Toni is convinced Jodar has the weapons, discipline and drive to challenge the world’s best players in Grand Slam events.

https://tennisnow.com/toni-nadal-jodar-will-soon-be-one-of-best-in-world/

Interested to see R. Jodar plays in Rome. How far can he get ? Blockx is through the first round and Jodar plays Friday.
 
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Jodar needs to improve his serve first and foremost. Tio Toni likes to turn everyone into grinders but that doesn't play to Rafa J's strengths.
It isn't only Tio Toni. It's the Spanish style to get lots of balls back - Bautista Agut, Munar, Carreño Busta. Nadal just happened to be the best at it and have a huge forehand. in the ol' days, Sanchez Vicario.
 
Jodar through to the round of 32 and playing Arnaldi. Blockx playing Zverev.
I like the way Jodar plays, especially how he can redirect the ball or take it down the line so effortlessly.
His game is packed with things no many players have and he still has so many areas that he can improve on!
Go Rafa !!
 
I dont think he stands a chance VS Tien but still a good run from Jódar
@ErnestoVillanuevaCagliate Lerner is really playing well right now so it will be a good test for Jodar. I think Jodar can keep it going if he has any gas left in the tank.
I like both of them - tough, gritty, hard working and smart. Seems to me Lerner is a bit further down the road in his development, but Jodar has a higher ceiling.
 
@ErnestoVillanuevaCagliate Lerner is really playing well right now so it will be a good test for Jodar. I think Jodar can keep it going if he has any gas left in the tank.
I like both of them - tough, gritty, hard working and smart. Seems to me Lerner is a bit further down the road in his development, but Jodar has a higher ceiling.
Jodar almost lost today he was down a break in the THIRD.

I Will be surprised if he takes a set out of Tien but lets see interesting match up
 
It isn't only Tio Toni. It's the Spanish style to get lots of balls back - Bautista Agut, Munar, Carreño Busta. Nadal just happened to be the best at it and have a huge forehand. in the ol' days, Sanchez Vicario.
I mean only Munar is a true grinder out of those (and even he has a pretty decent serve). Bautista is an eastern forehand grass semi-specialist that likes dictating with the FH, and Busta was cast from the Temu Djoko/Nishikori balanced baseliner mold.
 
This is what some of the ATP stats say about Jodar after Madrid ! That's pretty good company!!
Still a work in progress, but has the makings of a varsity athlete !
Oh and he's through to the next round in Rome!

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In my opinion:
Strengths: return, backhand, mental game.
Weaknesses: serve, touch, forehand.

Have we been watching the same matches? It should be clear to anyone that his return game is top notch.
Called it
 
I mean only Munar is a true grinder out of those (and even he has a pretty decent serve). Bautista is an eastern forehand grass semi-specialist that likes dictating with the FH, and Busta was cast from the Temu Djoko/Nishikori balanced baseliner mold.
I purposely didn't use the word grinder because like you said, only Munar is a grinder, meaning a player whose entire strategy is getting lots of balls back. But most Spanish guys get a lot of balls back and don't beat themselves by going for too many winners. Only Spanish player I can think of that isn't like that Fokina Davidovich but that may be credit to his Russian roots.
 
I purposely didn't use the word grinder because like you said, only Munar is a grinder, meaning a player whose entire strategy is getting lots of balls back. But most Spanish guys get a lot of balls back and don't beat themselves by going for too many winners. Only Spanish player I can think of that isn't like that Fokina Davidovich but that may be credit to his Russian roots.
Verdasco used to beat himself all the time (and Alcaraz too to a lesser extent)
 
Jodar -Tien buzz!

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Tomorrow should be a fun match between Jodar and Tien! Two up and coming players.
I like the way both of them compete but on clay I'd have to give the edge to Rafa Jodar!
Shouldn't be too shocking if Lerner wins either, (he is the higher ranked player) but for the moment this seems to be a better surface for R.J.
The thing I like is how Jodar attacks forehands with his backhand, but against Tien that will be his backhand!

Who do you guys have in this one?
 
Darderi - Jodar QF could be a banger. I expect it to be very close, especially with the Italian crowd.

With Khachanov and Ruud completing that half of the draw, reaching the Rome final seems doable, although the ogre Sinner is very likely to be waiting there.
 
It was clay, it is clear than in faster conditions Tien should prevail.


But okey, good results from the youngster, he isnt beating Zverez but if he can make it look somewhat competitive, it would be nice.
I don’t know if I would say it is clear because at this point the easiest way to beat jodar is to have more weapons and that’s not Tien‘s game. I have a feeling it will be pretty competitive.
 
I don’t know if I would say it is clear because at this point the easiest way to beat jodar is to have more weapons and that’s not Tien‘s game. I have a feeling it will be pretty competitive.
Clay's most likely not Tien's game but it clearly is Jodar's. Just wait for the hard court seaon to resume and Tien will have another better crack at this Rafa.
 
I don’t know if I would say it is clear because at this point the easiest way to beat jodar is to have more weapons and that’s not Tien‘s game. I have a feeling it will be pretty competitive.
Tien not having weapons is a huge misanalysis that has been flooding the tennis world for far too long. Potent backhand, a not necessarily powerful but incredibly stable forehand, excellent lateral movement. If he was weaponless he wouldn't be 6-5 against top 10! Tien also faced Sinner twice so excluding the Big Man he's 6-3 against the rest! Fonseca allegedly has a brutal weapon of a forehand, but why is he 1-6 against top 10 then, 1-5 if we exclude SinMan?
 
Tien not having weapons is a huge misanalysis that has been flooding the tennis world for far too long. Potent backhand, a not necessarily powerful but incredibly stable forehand, excellent lateral movement. If he was weaponless he wouldn't be 6-5 against top 10! Tien also faced Sinner twice so excluding the Big Man he's 6-3 against the rest! Fonseca allegedly has a brutal weapon of a forehand, but why is he 1-6 against top 10 then, 1-5 if we exclude SinMan?
@4UTRMoutet I have to agree with you, but most people think that since his BH and FH don't explode that they are not weapons. Tien is an excellent and improving player, but I think that Jodar is on a faster track right now. His length let's him generate easier power not quite Sinner-esque, but impressive for such slight stature. I don't think Sinner was at Jodar's level at a similar stage of development.

The encouraging part is that Jodar has seemingly been building on his success. His mentality is also very Sinner like, hard working, dedicated not looking to become an entertainer just improve his craft.
Sinner and Alcaraz had a lot of help from a great teams. I hope that Jodar starts to add to his to accelerate his growth. Fitness, nutrition and coaching.

He has been building his game quickly since Indian Wells.

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@4UTRMoutet I have to agree with you, but most people think that since his BH and FH don't explode that they are not weapons. Tien is an excellent and improving player, but I think that Jodar is on a faster track right now. His length let's him generate easier power not quite Sinner-esque, but impressive for such slight stature. I don't think Sinner was at Jodar's level at a similar stage of development.

The encouraging part is that Jodar has seemingly been building on his success. His mentality is also very Sinner like, hard working, dedicated not looking to become an entertainer just improve his craft.
Sinner and Alcaraz had a lot of help from a great teams. I hope that Jodar starts to add to his to accelerate his growth. Fitness, nutrition and coaching.

He has been building his game quickly since Indian Wells.

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Everything about Jodar screams a fundamentally good player. He has no weaknesses, his serving is meh but it's not a liability and he has weapons on both wings. He also has some 3 dimensionality, decent amounts of net play and a very strong forehand drop shot, something that I've seen common to most nextgen players (Tien Landaluce Jodar and Fonseca all have a very good fh dropshot). His mental is very strong so far, though it's a little too early to make a definitive statement on that.
 
Isn't it something that this is Sinner's maiden QF at Rome and Jodar has already accomplished that ! Sinner is fantastic - no doubt, but he hasn't always been the Sinner we see today. He worked hard and I see many of the same qualities in Jodar.
He's already beaten Fonseca, Tien and next up is Darderi !!
As @4UTRMoutet says, he's a fundamentally sound player, mentally tough and he's a pretty good mover - these things make him a tough out for any player! I see a lot of hot and cold players, more interested in flashy shots than winning matches and Jodar seems to just put his head down and go to work!
 
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