Fisch
New User
Tape is so expensive as well. I know people who use KT tape religiously, but when they play 6 days a week, that's a lot of money spent. You can find exercises on the web to stabilize your ankles for free.
Jolly's Polys
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Power Player
Bionic Poster
Sucks man, get better! I look forward to your review of Adrenaline.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Fisch
New User
I know! I could have as many rackets as you do
haqq777
Legend
It's funny. My wife - who is a doctor - was looking at me all weird yesterday as I was fumbling about with my roll of KT Tape looking at their YouTube channel trying to figure out how it works for ankles. She thinks it's all placebo and no more beneficial than regular plain ol athletic tape.I know! I could have as many rackets as you do
Fisch
New User
It's just more convenient and a little nicer. It feels like higher quality materials and the strips are precut. Are those small things worth twice the price? Not in my book
haqq777
Legend
Yeah, I agree. I got my roll last year on a whim and never used it much. Figured I'd put it to good use.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
I use it to tape fingers and so when I have blisters lol
Hmgraphite1
Hall of Fame
Some tennis shoes have weak borders in their midsoles so the outer edge crushes down on impact leading into a rollover. Also as the tread wears out on the outside back near heel can cause some more addition rolling. That was why I chose courtballistic 4.3 over vapors. Need more of a combat boot sturdiness only soft on the inside.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Some like the vapors because they are low to the ground. I was amazed at the amount of stability the little wing on the OG ballistec added.
J
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Luxilon 5 Star:
This string is a compulsive liar, or a contradiction, or bipolar.
It seems soft, but it has no give to it, at all. There was barely enough to string my racquet because it did not stretch at all.
It's REALLY thick. Like looked absurd in an 18x20 thicc so you would think it would last forever, but it notches instantly and wore through faster than most 17g poly.
It has really sharp edges and if you run your hand back and forth across the string bed you will probably cut yourself, but it doesn't bite the ball.
Why sell a string with no power, no bite, no durability and no comfort?
The only thing it has going for it is the color.
J
This string is a compulsive liar, or a contradiction, or bipolar.
It seems soft, but it has no give to it, at all. There was barely enough to string my racquet because it did not stretch at all.
It's REALLY thick. Like looked absurd in an 18x20 thicc so you would think it would last forever, but it notches instantly and wore through faster than most 17g poly.
It has really sharp edges and if you run your hand back and forth across the string bed you will probably cut yourself, but it doesn't bite the ball.
Why sell a string with no power, no bite, no durability and no comfort?
The only thing it has going for it is the color.
J
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
@Power Player I had a thought last night, if you strung Adrenaline crosses and 4G mains it would play like Lyon.
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J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Luxilon XP initial thoughts: I don't know if this string is good or if it was artificially good because I picked it up after the 5 star broke. But so far I think it's quite nice and seems rather durable.
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Fisch
New User
An expensive proposition but a good one.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Pickle9
Professional
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
The XP was unplayable yesterday, I had to put it down. Will give it another shot today before I condemn it.
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rogerroger917
Hall of Fame
Are you trying all these strings to replace alu for yourself or just as a public service on here?
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
I ran out of Polymono two months ahead of schedule and didn't want to waste real string on garbage tennis and practice so I figured I would just use whatever bogus strings until I had to actually play matches. Now that I have to actually play tennis I will be using the Jolly Rig 2.
J
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
I don't believe in it either, but some basketball players do need it if previous ankle strains and injuries have made their angle ligaments stretched out or weaker.
Not sure if it actually helps or not, but every once in awhile, I do a balancing exercise where I stand on a basketball or a heavy medicine ball with both feet. I can usually balance on it for about 30 - 90 seconds without too much trouble. You can stand near a wall to help you get on the ball initially, then use your arms to balance. Once you get the hang of it you'll eventually reach a state of relaxation where you feel like you could almost stand on the ball forever without too much effort.
I might have a video of me doing it somewhere if it isn't clear what I am describing.
Fisch
New User
I'm about to rebuy tourna grip. Is it worth buying lux grips instead?
Pickle9
Professional
If you have a problem with the tournas disintegrating I recommend the lux.
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Searah
Semi-Pro
if you're playing in humid conditions or you sweat a lot then it's good. it can be a bit damp tho. i didn't notice this until someone asked to try my racket and they were all "ehhh why is it so wet"
tho personally i didn't notice the damp conditions but i guess if you switch from one that just pushes the sweat aside (easy to slip out of hand) compared to one that absorbs it?
but i still use my lux dry and i love it! i swear that person who said it was wet was just a one off, it doesn't feel wet!!!
Fisch
New User
OK, thanks. I'll pick up a 3 pack and see what I think!
Searah
Semi-Pro
few questions for Jolly!
does Jolly recommend the Jolly Rig 2.. for anyone? or is it only for the advanced?
i read in another thread that Jolly has videos. where are these for mentioned videos?
What does Jolly eat before a tennis match? or do you just eat what you're in the mood for?
does Jolly recommend the Jolly Rig 2.. for anyone? or is it only for the advanced?
i read in another thread that Jolly has videos. where are these for mentioned videos?
What does Jolly eat before a tennis match? or do you just eat what you're in the mood for?
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
I would recommend the JR2 for players who want maximum performance at any cost but break ALU too fast. Otherwise you are better off just using full ALU.
The weather here has been unbelievably horrible lately between cold and wind but I managed to get a little video the past couple weeks, I'll post links below.
To be honest I still haven't solved my personal nutrition thing when it comes to tennis but this is what I have so far.
I get a really bad upset stomach if I eat too close to playing so I try to eat very little if anything in the two hours before a match. Back when I ran cross country we would have pasta parties the night before races and bagels the morning of, but my body doesn't like having a lot of carbs in it or too few. So I try to eat maybe half a portion of bread or pasta per meal.
My pre match snack is usually a piece of fruit and a handful of nuts maybe an hour before I play. No meat or heavy protein before I play, but I'll eat protein after to recover.
J
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Here's a bit of a warm-up on a cold and windy day before we started playing points and everything went to heck.
And this is me working on my forehand on the ball machine the first time this spring. Going to make a couple adjustments and try to re video this weekend.
J
And this is me working on my forehand on the ball machine the first time this spring. Going to make a couple adjustments and try to re video this weekend.
J
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Is your forehand eastern? A bit difficult to tell but looks like eastern from the videos.
alidisperanza
Hall of Fame
Squats on the bosu ball are always an attraction.
Coming from the king of injuries with wolverine like healing, I was really surprised the new vapors are as stable as they are. So far only one ut-oh and it was more my fault in trying to avoid a ball on court.
alidisperanza
Hall of Fame
He looks funny as heck on court-- like the skinny math nerd that grew a foot and no longer has glasses, but I swear the ball goes whap
Also, I spy a lot of #KingChristian in that forehand. Good looks.
styksnstryngs
Professional
I'm super injury prone, and I've only rolled one ankle in my 2018 barricade boost, and the boost actually seems to help my shins and knees (compared to the normal barricades, at least). Still throbs like hell if I run in them, but normal tennis doesn't hurt until set 2.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
It floats a bit but mostly right between eastern and semi western. I don't really think about it.
J
Fisch
New User
Once I got to college and stopped getting consistent coaching my forehand grip went super western. Honestly I don't know how my wrist isn't completely shattered yet.
styksnstryngs
Professional
When I'm using pace and redirecting as an angle shot, my grip floats to eastern, but heavy rally balls and dtl passes are semi.
ByakuFubuki
Semi-Pro
This is just mere speculation, but maybe that's because you naturally developed a Western Grip over time rather than going: "I need more spin. I know: I'll suddenly switch to the most extreme grip I can think of and that will work for sure and bring me to Pro level" and forcing your body to switch from Eastern or whatever to that.
Doubles
Legend
I should preface this by saying I have another set of Luxilon Ace which I could string at a different tension to perhaps gain a better impression of this string, but here are my thoughts after breaking the first set in 6 hours.
Power: Ace, being a thin string has ample power. Not that of a multifilament, of course, but there were times when I felt the ball fly unexpectedly.
Spin: Spin was adequate for a poly, but it didn't have the same bite that ALU or BBO have. With that said, this strings gives back what you put in, and fast strokes did produce heavy balls, just not the same kind of spin one would expect from Tour Bite, RPM of ALU.
Feel: Here's where this string really showed itself off. Luxilon makes some quality strings with unique feel compared to other polys, but this has to be one of the 3 best feeling poly strings I've used before. Not in terms of softness--Polyfibre strings are the softest poly I've used before--but in terms of feeling connected to the ball, this is great. It's soft without feeling mushy, and firm without being harsh.
Groundstrokes: Of all the Luxilon strings I've tried, this was my favorite for hitting slice backhands. I think it has to do with the feel coming off the string bed, but I felt like I could really carve the ball up from the baseline with that shot. Otherwise, it was nothing bad, but nothing unremarkable--the ball goes where you want it to go.
Serves: Similarly, slice serves felt great, and I think my flat serve had a little more oomf on it than usual. Kick serves didn't appear to bite any more than usual, but I never felt as though I served worse with this than most other poly strings.
Volleys: 1000/10. I felt as though I couldn't miss a ball up at net. I'm willing to accept that this might've just been a few good days of tennis, but this was an overall amazing poly for anyone that likes to volley. Short of a gut/poly hybrid this might be my favorite setup.
Overall: Through working in tennis clubs, I can buy the string at a discounted rate, and that makes it a worthwhile option in my eyes. With that said, at retail, I believe there are other polys that do just as good of a job, but with more durability and at a lower price. I get that I shouldn't expect much string life from a 1.12 mm string, but 6 hours of play is not a lot of time for a string when I can get 4 more hours out of ALU power (before it goes dead or breaks) for $2 a set.
Overall, Ace gets a 7/10 or whatever. Strings are so subjective I'm really starting to believe that a numerical rating system is worthless.
Oh yeah, and I strung it at 50.
Power: Ace, being a thin string has ample power. Not that of a multifilament, of course, but there were times when I felt the ball fly unexpectedly.
Spin: Spin was adequate for a poly, but it didn't have the same bite that ALU or BBO have. With that said, this strings gives back what you put in, and fast strokes did produce heavy balls, just not the same kind of spin one would expect from Tour Bite, RPM of ALU.
Feel: Here's where this string really showed itself off. Luxilon makes some quality strings with unique feel compared to other polys, but this has to be one of the 3 best feeling poly strings I've used before. Not in terms of softness--Polyfibre strings are the softest poly I've used before--but in terms of feeling connected to the ball, this is great. It's soft without feeling mushy, and firm without being harsh.
Groundstrokes: Of all the Luxilon strings I've tried, this was my favorite for hitting slice backhands. I think it has to do with the feel coming off the string bed, but I felt like I could really carve the ball up from the baseline with that shot. Otherwise, it was nothing bad, but nothing unremarkable--the ball goes where you want it to go.
Serves: Similarly, slice serves felt great, and I think my flat serve had a little more oomf on it than usual. Kick serves didn't appear to bite any more than usual, but I never felt as though I served worse with this than most other poly strings.
Volleys: 1000/10. I felt as though I couldn't miss a ball up at net. I'm willing to accept that this might've just been a few good days of tennis, but this was an overall amazing poly for anyone that likes to volley. Short of a gut/poly hybrid this might be my favorite setup.
Overall: Through working in tennis clubs, I can buy the string at a discounted rate, and that makes it a worthwhile option in my eyes. With that said, at retail, I believe there are other polys that do just as good of a job, but with more durability and at a lower price. I get that I shouldn't expect much string life from a 1.12 mm string, but 6 hours of play is not a lot of time for a string when I can get 4 more hours out of ALU power (before it goes dead or breaks) for $2 a set.
Overall, Ace gets a 7/10 or whatever. Strings are so subjective I'm really starting to believe that a numerical rating system is worthless.
Oh yeah, and I strung it at 50.
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Couldn't agree more, great review too. That's why giving a full review outlining playability etc is so much better than some numbers/10 on a screen. Way too subjective to properly judge.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Doubles
Legend
To a point I agree but a version that’s supposed to be a softer ALU should feel like a softer ALU.
Doubles
Legend
Here's a more in depth review of Fluoro:
Power: Fluoro has a moderate amount of power for a luxilon poly. More than BBO and 4G for sure, less than Ace and Element. On slow swings, I believe, due to the relative increase in softness Fluoro has more power than standard ALU. However, at faster swing speeds, ALU hits a bigger ball in terms of both power and spin.
Spin: Speaking of which, Fluoro seemingly fits somewhere in the middle of Luxilon strings. I've played strings with significantly less spin, but ALU/Rough certainly grab the ball much better. Luxilon Ace, for example, feels--even while fresh--like a stringbed of regular ALU that has been played to the point where it's worn thin. As a result, it's still going to grab at the ball, but doesn't bite like fresh ALU does. Fluoro has a similar feeling. does it bite better than most poly strings? Yeah, I'd say so, but not as well as most lux polys, other than maybe Savage, M2, or 4G.
Feel: It was a bit softer than regular ALU so there was a slightly more pleasant feel, especially on off-center shots, but I wouldn't recommend this to a person looking for a feel poly.
Groundstrokes: When I supplied plenty of swing speed this produced a heavy ball off the ground. Certainly comparable to Hyper G (I get more spin from Tour Bite than Hyper G). I don't think this string but feel too great for someone used to playing with a newer, shaped spin monster poly, but I don't think that's really the target demographic for this string.
Serves: Again, I felt like this string only accentuated what I was already good at. My serve wasn't magically better, but it did play like a similar, but slightly softer version of regular ALU.
Volleys: Point and shoot. If I were a full time doubles player who enjoyed ALU I'd probably switch to a full bed of Fluoro because of the marginally better feel and consistent response from the stringbed. This won't magically make you a better volleyer, but I do enjoy the way this performed up at net. Maybe an ALU/Fluoro hybrid would create a really nice stringbed for me, but I think that's doing too much, honestly.
Overall: Fluoro is to ALU what Schopenhauer was to Hegel. A great string, and one worth playing with, because it has something different and unique to offer. But let's be honest, we all want the good stuff.
Power: Fluoro has a moderate amount of power for a luxilon poly. More than BBO and 4G for sure, less than Ace and Element. On slow swings, I believe, due to the relative increase in softness Fluoro has more power than standard ALU. However, at faster swing speeds, ALU hits a bigger ball in terms of both power and spin.
Spin: Speaking of which, Fluoro seemingly fits somewhere in the middle of Luxilon strings. I've played strings with significantly less spin, but ALU/Rough certainly grab the ball much better. Luxilon Ace, for example, feels--even while fresh--like a stringbed of regular ALU that has been played to the point where it's worn thin. As a result, it's still going to grab at the ball, but doesn't bite like fresh ALU does. Fluoro has a similar feeling. does it bite better than most poly strings? Yeah, I'd say so, but not as well as most lux polys, other than maybe Savage, M2, or 4G.
Feel: It was a bit softer than regular ALU so there was a slightly more pleasant feel, especially on off-center shots, but I wouldn't recommend this to a person looking for a feel poly.
Groundstrokes: When I supplied plenty of swing speed this produced a heavy ball off the ground. Certainly comparable to Hyper G (I get more spin from Tour Bite than Hyper G). I don't think this string but feel too great for someone used to playing with a newer, shaped spin monster poly, but I don't think that's really the target demographic for this string.
Serves: Again, I felt like this string only accentuated what I was already good at. My serve wasn't magically better, but it did play like a similar, but slightly softer version of regular ALU.
Volleys: Point and shoot. If I were a full time doubles player who enjoyed ALU I'd probably switch to a full bed of Fluoro because of the marginally better feel and consistent response from the stringbed. This won't magically make you a better volleyer, but I do enjoy the way this performed up at net. Maybe an ALU/Fluoro hybrid would create a really nice stringbed for me, but I think that's doing too much, honestly.
Overall: Fluoro is to ALU what Schopenhauer was to Hegel. A great string, and one worth playing with, because it has something different and unique to offer. But let's be honest, we all want the good stuff.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
**** Hegel, you Kant do better than Immanuel!
Doubles
Legend
Something told me you’d like that one. I actually just took a seminar on Kant’s second critique in my last semester of grad school. With that said, the Schopenhauer Hegel distinction was a better comparison, imo, because they taught at the same university at the same time. Supposedly hundreds would sign up for Hegel’s lectures and no one would go to Schopenhauer’s.**** Hegel, you Kant do better than Immanuel!
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Pretty much. I find Schopenhauer more interesting myself, his (rather human) pessimism is an interesting topic of discussion!
Can’t say I’m particularly well versed on Hegel, he wrote way too much - though what I know superficially does not convince me in the least. I consider myself more of a pragmatist though (as in being convinced by a variant of the pragmatist school of philosophy), so, since most philosophers of that time write from within the tradition of Cartesian dualism that the pragmatists reject as false (rightly so I would say), I find myself disagreeing with them on the fundamental premises from which their arguments proceed. Kant gets the closest to making this pragmatist point I think - though he just falls a step short by asserting the existence of the (synthetic) a priori.
Doubles
Legend
I find Hegel interesting because of his influence on the field of philosophy moreso that his actual contributions—though I am trying to navigate Phenomenology of Spirit this summer. That said I am a committed materialist, and wrote my thesis on Hobbes, my personal favorite.Pretty much. I find Schopenhauer more interesting myself, his (rather human) pessimism is an interesting topic of discussion!
I consider myself more of a pragmatist though (as in being convinced by a variant of the pragmatist school of philosophy), so, since most philosophers of that time write from within the tradition of Cartesian dualism that the pragmatists reject as false (rightly so I would say), I find myself disagreeing with them on the fundamental premises from which their arguments proceed. Kant gets the closest to making this pragmatist point I think - though he just falls a step short by asserting the existence of the (synthetic) a priori.
Returning to tennis talk, I have a few more strings I can post reviews of as I continue playing assuming @J011yroger doesn't mind.
